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Old 15-01-2007, 03:29 PM   #1
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Hidey ho everyone

its getting time to upgrade from the Fez to something a little larger with more cargo / passenger capacity.

Work life is changing which means that I spend more time going long distance and will need to carry more stuff than comfortably fits in my Fez. Aside from that, I need to be able to haul things around for my little princess (toys, bikes other stuff).

So... here's the poll to get your ideas on which way to go. I anticipate updating within the next 3 months.

Some considerations.... fuel economy, service / maintenance costs, size, fun factor, reliability, comfort, ease of driving... (not necessarily in the order) and whatever else you think is important to consider. Budget is sub $30k which means that some options may be second hand instead of new - no big deal. Build, drive, feel etc must be at least as good as the Fez.

Would be great to have your opinions on the options plus anything I haven't thought of

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Old 15-01-2007, 05:30 PM   #2
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Albeit old models, but I own an LR Focus Zetec and an Audi A4. The Audi engine is sensational, but you''ll fit far more into the Focus
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Old 16-01-2007, 07:12 PM   #3
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Well if you're looking for a fairly similar package to the fiesta.. Just a little bigger i would consider a nice condition second hand Sportivo Corolla.

Larger interior/boot space. Bigger engine with loads more power. Still N/A so it wont chew too much fuel.
I dont doubt there would TONS of bike racks available for the corolla.

I would definately consider it.
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Old 17-01-2007, 12:20 AM   #4
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Well if you're looking for a fairly similar package to the fiesta.. Just a little bigger i would consider a nice condition second hand Sportivo Corolla.

Larger interior/boot space. Bigger engine with loads more power. Still N/A so it wont chew too much fuel.
I dont doubt there would TONS of bike racks available for the corolla.

I would definately consider it.
Thanks Mitch

I just can't stand the Corolla - I just find it bland.. interior, feel... the whole lot.

Maybe the Sportivo is better than the base models? As per what Photn metioned, I'm not a fan of revving the guts out of the engine to get some fun happening
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Old 17-01-2007, 12:30 AM   #5
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Thanks Mitch

I just can't stand the Corolla - I just find it bland.. interior, feel... the whole lot.

Maybe the Sportivo is better than the base models? As per what Photn metioned, I'm not a fan of revving the guts out of the engine to get some fun happening
The interior is just as bad as the rest of the Corolla range. The engine is pretty much the Sportivo's only plus. And its not suited to the car. It belongs in cars like the Elise.

A good option is the MkIV Golf GTI. The MkIV didn't have all this electronic mumbo jumbo the MkV has, it wasn't void of all feel. It was a decent drive. Quality is the VW usual, world benchmark, and the 1.8T is a very moddable engine...
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Old 17-01-2007, 02:29 AM   #6
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A good option is the MkIV Golf GTI. The MkIV didn't have all this electronic mumbo jumbo the MkV has, it wasn't void of all feel. It was a decent drive. Quality is the VW usual, world benchmark, and the 1.8T is a very moddable engine...
What are you smoking? The MK5 GTI is a superb machine. I commend VW for having a car that can punt around the suburbs, yet be a joy to drive out on the open roads.

Also, the Mk4 GTI wasn't the best in class, and neither was quality THAT great. Girl at work has one sitting on 65,000kms... after about 3 clutch failures and a few electronic gizmos going wrong. Quality?... look for an A3 1.8T if quality is what you're after.
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Old 17-01-2007, 12:17 AM   #7
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Albeit old models, but I own an LR Focus Zetec and an Audi A4. The Audi engine is sensational, but you''ll fit far more into the Focus
I can't wait to get into a nice A4... I've been toying with the idea of models around 2000. My ex-boss had a 2.4 V6 with 17s. Just superb! But, I am aware first hand of the dangers of second hand cars, especially European cars. S4 or RS4 would be fantastic all the same
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only problem i believe with the Sportivo as others do is the To get the Best of performance/power out of it you need to hit HIGH revs. Thats when it comes alive. just like the ST170. now dont get me wrong its a GREAT car. but i think thats its downfall....
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Old 18-01-2007, 11:06 PM   #9
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Als, You really need to go out an test drive all these cars yourself. Just because someone else like a car doesn't mean you will. Test drive, Test drive and test drive some more and get a feel for each car. We can only recommend cars but everyone has there own personal tastes.

P.S Polo Gti has peak power 150hp @ 5800rpm not 6000rpm :P
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Old 19-01-2007, 01:28 AM   #10
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Als, You really need to go out an test drive all these cars yourself. Just because someone else like a car doesn't mean you will. Test drive, Test drive and test drive some more and get a feel for each car. We can only recommend cars but everyone has there own personal tastes.
I'd have to agree. You just need to go out and test drive, which I'm sure you will do. Obviously you've asked for OUR opinions... which aren't the deciding factor. Go with what suits you best.

P.S. Didn't you purchase the Fiesta sight unseen, and without test drive too?
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Old 19-01-2007, 06:59 PM   #11
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P.S Polo Gti has peak power 150hp @ 5800rpm not 6000rpm :P

Nice attempt at winding me up

If you read my post i said at ''around 6,000rpm'' :
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Old 19-01-2007, 01:53 AM   #12
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Yes I pre-bought my Fiesta but I test drove the mk6 in 2003 when I went over to Europe (my Grandad has a mk6 Fiesta as well)
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To be a bit more technical, the Polo GTI has 150 PS (Pfederstarke), the funny, unrecognised German HP. Its got 147 proper horsepower.
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A reason why would be helpful. The new Honda Civic doesn't exactly look crash hot, except the Sport model, in which case your paying top dollar for a Thai built car!

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Again, any reason why?

Funny, because I know what a lot of people would say about the Fiesta... the same thing! :ymca:
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The new Honda Civic doesn't exactly look crash hot, except the Sport model.
The only exterior visual difference between a Honda Civic VTi and Honda Civic Sport, is that the VTi has 16" wheels, and the Sport has 17" wheels and "sport" badge. That's it.

(Sorry to let the facts get in the way of a good story)
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The only exterior visual difference between a Honda Civic VTi and Honda Civic Sport, is that the VTi has 16" wheels, and the Sport has 17" wheels and "sport" badge. That's it.

(Sorry to let the facts get in the way of a good story)
Considering the VTi is the base model, and the Sport is the top of the range there are plenty of differences;

Sport has;

Side Indicators integrated in the side mirror
17" rims over the stocker hubcaps
Sunroof
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Leather (visible from the outside...)
Dual chrome exhaust tip (Think each model has dual exhausts though...)

So, that makes a massive difference. : Even more of a difference then the Fiesta LX to Zetec :

Unless of course you were talking about the VTi-L, in which case you got your information (well, model) incorrect. Even then there is still a difference.

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You're attempt at making your shitty little black Fiesta look ''touge'' by taking the pension pack hubcaps off is even more gay
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lol
your attempt at sounding like a good driver , far to gay
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So it's an absolute CRIME for anyone to say anything negative about the Fiesta...... but its cool for you guys to bag other cars and brands without justification.. riiight.

Everything i have mentioned in this post has been justified.

Enter Richie with childish brand bashing
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you can say what you want man , dosnt bother me , stirring the pot
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whos that directed at ??
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Good God you small car girls really do crap on don't you. Every thread is a ***** fight, scat gets thrown around and we stand in front of our cars and defend the strength of our 1.x litre engine. For crying out loud, can one thread involving Fiesta drivers on this Forum be constructive and stick to the topic?

If you're looking for something not too dear (under $30k) yet with room to burn, fuel economy and fun to drive, with at least a few options, you're right in looking at a Mazda 6, definitely an LX Focus Sedan (MASSIVE boot) and perhaps if you can stretch a Subaru Liberty. All those are new, cheap to run compared to an older car approaching brake/clutch/tyre replacement and are safer, stronger and usually more reliable. All 3 of those should give you similar room and performance, with the Focus being the cheapest and smallest, but not exactly tiny either. Definitely worth a look.

As for the rest of you, just chill out and keep it on topic please.
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Good God you small car girls really do crap on don't you. Every thread is a ***** fight, scat gets thrown around and we stand in front of our cars and defend the strength of our 1.x litre engine. For crying out loud, can one thread involving Fiesta drivers on this Forum be constructive and stick to the topic?
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