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Ford Australia is taking two other steps, in addition to EcoBoost, to offer consumers more choices for vehicles with better fuel economy and lower CO2 emissions:
Starting in 2011, the iconic Falcon, one of the largest-selling brands in automotive history and the first Australian-made car to be awarded a 5-star ANCAP rating, will become one of the greenest family cars in Australia with EcoBoost. Slated for a range of global vehicles – from small cars to large trucks – EcoBoost uses petrol turbocharged direct-injection technology to deliver improved fuel efficiency, emissions and driving performance versus larger displacement engines. As the first rear-wheel drive car from Ford to receive the 2.0-litre, 4-cylinder EcoBoost, Falcon is benefiting from the One Ford strategy of accelerating products that customers want and value – and then making those products available on a global basis. “Today’s announcements put Ford Australia in a strong position for profitable growth in today’s auto industry,” said Marin Burela, President & CEO of Ford Australia. “We are ensuring our core Falcon and Territory vehicles will have the most advanced, high-tech and cleanest engines possible. At the same time, this represents the biggest environmental transformation in the fifty-year history of Ford Falcon by giving buyers the newest engine in the Ford Motor Company stable. "Falcon customers will now have the choice of either the continually popular I6 engine, which will be Euro IV compliant, or one of the first global applications of Ford's EcoBoost, 2.0-litre 4-cylinder engines, while in a similar timeframe Territory customers will be able to access Ford's world-class clean diesel engine technology," Burela continued. Ford Australia also announced that as a result of changing global economic conditions, the company has ended plans to manufacture the Ford Focus in Australia. After assessing the global requirements and costs of producing the next Focus in Australia, Ford determined that the changing economic conditions meant it could not make a business case for profitably manufacturing the car at its operations outside of Melbourne. Ford’s new strategy allows the company to economically source small cars for the Australian market from overseas locations, while investing in leading-edge technologies to serve its core Falcon and Territory customers. The decision to not make the Focus in Australia will not result in any job losses. “Although difficult, this is the right decision for Ford Australia,” said Burela. “Ford Australia has a strong commitment to manufacturing in this country built on ongoing support from employees, customers, dealers, suppliers and government. Our investments today demonstrate not only our commitment to address climate change – but to bringing leading edge technologies to the Australian market. "Ford is fully committed to working towards fuel economy leadership in every segment in which we compete, across local and imported vehicles. In fact, later this year we will introduce the most fuel-efficient vehicle in Australia when we launch the Fiesta ECOnetic, which will be more economical than hybrids at only 3.7L/100km," said Burela. These significant projects add to a continued program of ongoing investment by Ford in the Australian market, including:
About EcoBoost The EcoBoost program is part of Ford’s ongoing and wide-ranging global initiative to deliver fuel-efficient powertrain systems with the power and performance found in larger-displacement engines. EcoBoost will be offered on Ford vehicles throughout the world. On sale now in select Ford vehicles in North America, more than 90 per cent of Ford’s North American nameplates will be available with EcoBoost by 2013. The key to the EcoBoost system is the harmony between the turbochargers and direct-injection fuel system. The turbochargers recover energy from the exhaust that otherwise would have been wasted and put it back in the engine to gain efficiency. Simply, the turbocharging system puts more air into the engine for more power. A compressor increases or “boosts” the pressure of the air entering the engine. An intercooler reduces the air temperature before it enters the engine. About LPG The liquid injection LPG engine for Falcon is the most advanced LPG technology on the market. By injecting liquid LPG directly into each intake track, the system delivers better fuel economy, reduced CO2 and improved performance through a more precise metering of fuel to the engine. Initial analysis indicates liquid injection LPG technology can reduce CO2 levels 12 per cent or more compared to current LPG technology. About Clean Diesel Technology advancements are reducing the tailpipe emissions that diesel engines traditionally produce. Buyers of Ford's Australian-made Territory SUV will be able to get a clean diesel option that generates fewer greenhouse gasses, while at the same time giving them better fuel economy performance than comparable petrol-driven engines. Clean diesel variants of a new 2.7-litre V6 engine will reduce CO2 by up to 25 per cent from six cylinder petrol engines. Source: Ford Media
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I wounder if the new 4cy falcon will vibrate like all gas fg falcons do,,
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Can't say im too keen on a turbo 4cyl in a 1800 odd kg falcon... But on the other hand it's at least good to see that they reconise the I6 as a good engine and have put some money into it. Funny no mention on any V8(s) though...
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You would think they wouldn't want to mention a replacement a year before its replacement comes on board.
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People don't seem to realise the four cylinder engine has more power than the existing I6 and nearly matches it for torque.
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huh? the 4T is 325nM and 170kw least from other sources. I6 is 195kw and 391nM on 91 ron. More like it'll match the base commo for power and torque. The reduction in weight will benefit the 4T.
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Ford is quoting 205kw and 380Nm
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gotta link? I seem to be only reading 170/325 numbers.
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Nothing is set in stone at this stage, it's all speculation until Ford Australia make an official announcement. The idea was to show the resident "Negative Nellies" there is more than one possibility. |
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Shame no diesel option for the Falcon sedan, or more specifically, the Falcon Utility range.
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Yeah that's a bit gay, no diesel option for the Falcon ute, and while I'm at it, where the bloody hell did the RTV go? I would have thought RTV + diesel = win.
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Guess ford is looking after Mondeo and Ranger by not offering Diesel falcon.
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Look at it this way, the USA isn't Falcon's intended export market. Europe is. The i4T, i6T and Diesel will sell in Europe, and the V8 will be for Middle Eastern and Australian consumption. Territory will be testing the water. After that, it is a freeforall.
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Look at it this way, the USA isn't Falcon's intended export market. Europe is. The i4T, i6T and Diesel will sell in Europe, and the V8 will be for Middle Eastern and Australian consumption. Territory will be testing the water. After that, it is a freeforall.
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i4T & i6T & V6TD for Europe V8 for Middle East For those that doubt the Ecoboost 4 consider this. An i4T with 170kW/320Nm and a weight reduction of 50kg to 1650kg, aided with either a 6spd DSG or 6spd ZF will be much quicker than a current GM Commodore V6. Add in a likely 8.0L economy and it's a winner!
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Good to hear that Ford are improving the engine lineup but it is a bit of a let down without some more diesel options.
Engineering a diesel engine to mount into the Falcon (or engineering the Falcon to have a diesel engine mounted) might have been a bit costly also, which is understandable. Hopefully they will think about it further in the future as it is (I believe) a viable option and give the Falcon an edge. |
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The power figure (whatever it ends up) will need to be on 95ron. This could put people off, but then again there is always the LILPG model.
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Even with not a single mule running i can gurantee Ford Aus (or ford globally for that matter) would never release a new car like a camry. Its not in their nature to let that happen.
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Hey Barry_v, have you driven a modern diesel car? I would like to think that you haven't judging by your comment. You'd be quite surprised how that can push you back in your chair with the acceleration they have thanks to the bags of torque they possess. And that's in any gear from about 1750rpm onwards.
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the reality about turbo diesels: when you put your foot down there is nothing there. the turbo is laggy and the power comes on all in one hit then leaves as quickly as it came. in something like a landcruiser this is acceptable if the primary use is towing or offroading. in a passenger vehicle the only reason you would want a diesel is fuel economy. and even then its questionable given the price per litre in australia. Before anyone talks about the old legends of country farmers only being able to get diesel just bear in mind this: new common rail diesel systems do not tolerate low quality contaminated fuel such as that found in farm tanks. It will stuff the pump and injectors which have considerable replacement cost. I am not at all suprised there will be no diesel option in the falcon, it just doesnt make sense. The LPG injected motor would be cheaper to buy, more economical and drive far better. I am suprised the 4 cylinder motor is on the table, but it may have its merits in a fleet market competing with the camry. I think the major deciding point will be the price compared to its competitors.
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