Driving Age in Different States

[EBSXR6]

Victoria has the oldest minimum age of 18 years for a Probationary car licence.

I was wondering does this mean that a 17 Yr Old Probationary Licence holder from Interstate is not allowed to drive in Victoria?

[burnz]

drive anywhere, your licence is a licence..

[mick taylor]

Originally Posted by burnz

drive anywhere, your licence is a licence..

You could get a Licence in the USA at 15 years and 6 months in some States, but if you came to Australia ?
I would think that you would have to have an Open Licence at least to drive here.

If you want to get a Hire car you have to be 21yo I think before they let you hire a car.

[burnz]

Originally Posted by mick taylor

You could get a Licence in the USA at 15 years and 6 months in some States, but if you came to Australia ?
I would think that you would have to have an Open Licence at least to drive here.

If you want to get a Hire car you have to be 21yo I think before they let you hire a car.

if their licence in USA or any other country you are good to go..
just follow state laws..

hire cars a private enterprise their rule's..

[mick taylor]

Originally Posted by burnz

if their licence in USA or any other country you are good to go..
just follow state laws..

hire cars a private enterprise their rule's..

Does a P plate Lic come into it ? Maybe an open Lic is fine.

But could a P plate 15yo drive in Australia, I think not, because one has to be 17yo here to hold a Licence.
The law here is you must be 17yo.

I am sure that in the USA the States were one can get a Lic at 15 and a half yo can not drive in States that one must be 16 and same thing with States with must be 17yo.

Kids are being discriminated as to hire cars, an open licence should all that is needed and I know of places in Australia that have had all their hire cars being repaired or smashed up mainly by a people from one Country and due to Political Correctness one can not name them, but they do not have such vast distances and such must catch them out, or something ?
Years ago I was talking to the dude who ran the hire company out their and he was not happy at all, that his business was being destroyed but the company could not discriminate against such who were in fact destroying all their cars.

Not to mention another town nearby that have all the cop cars destroyed half the time, but we dare not mention who destroyed such as such as that comes under Politically Correctness so the facts and the truth are hidden from public under such a heading. so why can't 5 year olds have the right to drive ? it's discrimination !

[Ben73]

This is Australia. There should be huge rule variations from state to state.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by Ben73

This is Australia. There should be huge rule variations from state to state.

Yet another stupid Australia-ism.

I remember getting a fine when I was on my P's (Vic license) and driving in TAS, TAS officer books me for not showing my P plat on the back which had blown own from the wind because I was hectic back then and drive with the window down on the highway.

Anyway, rule in TAS at the time was on your 2nd year of P's (I was) you dont even have to show the plates at all..so I wrote a letter and got out of it.

They kept the speeding fine though.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by EBSXR6

Victoria has the oldest minimum age of 18 years for a Probationary car licence.

I was wondering does this mean that a 17 Yr Old Probationary Licence holder from Interstate is not allowed to drive in Victoria?

Age is no barrier if you hold a valid recognised drivers licence from other states or territories of Australia.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by EBSXR6

Victoria has the oldest minimum age of 18 years for a Probationary car licence.

I was wondering does this mean that a 17 Yr Old Probationary Licence holder from Interstate is not allowed to drive in Victoria?

I did see something a few years ago that said Victoria would drop their minimum age to 17 as all States would be at 17, but heard nothing about it since

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by EBSXR6

Victoria has the oldest minimum age of 18 years for a Probationary car licence.

I was wondering does this mean that a 17 Yr Old Probationary Licence holder from Interstate is not allowed to drive in Victoria?

Mutual recognition, of course they can drive here (Victoria) but our rules apply, so 100 in a 100 zone, 110 in a 110 zone, 0.0 BAC, restrictions on towing, non-turbo or V8 restrictions etc etc

Same as out P Platers in other States have to follow that States rules

In Victoria you don't have to register a 6x4 trailer, however if you take it into NSW then it has to be registered

[PG2]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

Mutual recognition, of course they can drive here (Victoria) but our rules apply, so 100 in a 100 zone, 110 in a 110 zone, 0.0 BAC, restrictions on towing, non-turbo or V8 restrictions etc etc

Same as out P Platers in other States have to follow that States rules

In Victoria you don't have to register a 6x4 trailer, however if you take it into NSW then it has to be registered

You have to follow the conditions that are set on your licence. If a condition of your licence states that you must display P plates then you must display them in every state.

As for trailers, if it is exempt in VIC then it is exempt in NSW as long as you are towing it with a vehicle towed with VIC registration.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by PG2

You have to follow the conditions that are set on your licence. If a condition of your licence states that you must display P plates then you must display them in every state.

As for trailers, if it is exempt in VIC then it is exempt in NSW as long as you are towing it with a vehicle towed with VIC registration.

wrong, P Platers from NSW can do 110 here, how do I know this coz there is no law in Victoria that says P Platers can't do 110, so how can VicPol book them - I have had this argument 20 times, you are wrong

Silly example, say for example W.A. has no law that says people have to display P Plates, how can they be booked for breaking a lw that doesn't exist? How would a policeman in W.A. know what the law is in N.S.W. How can they check?

No they are no exempt, I know someone booked for towing a non registered trailer in NSW, if you read the NSW law it says all trailers have to be registered, it doesn't say "oh except for Victorians"

[PG2]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

wrong, P Platers from NSW can do 110 here, how do I know this coz there is no law in Victoria that says P Platers can't do 110, so how can VicPol book them - I have had this argument 20 times, you are wrong

No they are no exempt, I know someone booked for towing a non registered trailer in NSW, if you read the NSW law it says all trailers have to be registered, it doesn't say "oh except for Victorians"

WRONG!!!

Look it up. Come back to me when you know the correct answer.

EDIT:

11 Trailers towed by motor vehicles registered in Victoria
(cf 2007 reg Sch 1 cl 11)
The registration provisions do not apply to any trailer (other than a trailer used to carry a boat) that--

(a) is being towed by a motor vehicle that is registered in Victoria, and
(b) is exempt from registration in Victoria, and
(c) is not used in the course of trade, and
(d) weighs less than 200 kilograms unladen, and
(e) has a manufactured width that does not exceed the width of the vehicle towing the trailer, and
(f) is of a length (including the draw bar and any load) that does not exceed 3 metres, and
(g) if it obscures the number-plate of that motor vehicle--displays (whether by painting or otherwise) on its rear the registration number of the vehicle so that the number is clearly distinguishable at a distance of 20 metres from the rear.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by PG2

WRONG!!!

Look it up. Come back to me when you know the correct answer.

EDIT:

My apologies, they have changed the law regarding Victoria - I wasn't aware of that one

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

Mutual recognition, of course they can drive here (Victoria) but our rules apply, so 100 in a 100 zone, 110 in a 110 zone, 0.0 BAC, restrictions on towing, non-turbo or V8 restrictions etc etc

Same as out P Platers in other States have to follow that States rules

In Victoria you don't have to register a 6x4 trailer, however if you take it into NSW then it has to be registered

From what I've heard Victorians on red P plates can drive to their license/states laws.

So in NSW they don't have to do the NSW limit of 90kmh

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by GasoLane

From what I've heard Victorians on red P plates can drive to their license/states laws.

So in NSW they don't have to do the NSW limit of 90kmh

What idiot came up with the 90km thing anyway? Of all the places is safe to do 100kph or the full limit its the bloody highway!

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by Polyal

What idiot came up with the 90km thing anyway? Of all the places is safe to do 100kph or the full limit its the bloody highway!

It was even worse back when L platers could only drive at 80 in NSW. What other vehicle are people taught to operate it at 70% of its full capabilities.

Imagine if you found out your flight across the pacific was going to take 3 hours longer because the pilot was under instruction.
Or your train to work in the morning rocked up 10 minutes late because the driver was learning to drive it slow.
Who ever decided the 80 and now 90 limit for Learners has no idea. I’d like to hear an argument for why it’s a good idea.

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Pfft laws - they're more 'guidelines' and only enforceable if you get caught

Whats the go with no u-turns at lights in NSW, here its the opposite, throw U turns at lights unless its signed that you can't

I can see it being an issue when someone is making a uturn while someone else is turning left on a green arrow onto the same road. Even though u turns at lights are illegal here, I still have seen people almost crash in that scenario

[Trevor 57]

you made the statement, prove me wrong

Silly example, say for example W.A. has no law that says people have to display P Plates, how can they be booked for breaking a law that doesn't exist? How would a policeman in W.A. know what the law is in N.S.W. How can a W.A. policeman enforce NSW law - think about it

[PG2]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

you made the statement, prove me wrong

Silly example, say for example W.A. has no law that says people have to display P Plates, how can they be booked for breaking a law that doesn't exist? How would a policeman in W.A. know what the law is in N.S.W.

In regards to the trailer, an apology whenever you are ready.

[Trevor 57]

You cannot be booked for a law that doesn't exist - think about it

[Trevor 57]

How can a W.A. policeman enforce NSW law - think about it

[Trevor 57]

If there is NO law in WA, how can he book someone for a law that doesn't exist - think about it

[PG2]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

waiting

Because you when you carry a licence the condtions of that licence must be printed on the licence or you must carry a copy of those conditions.

So when you are pulled over, the policeman can see those conditions and enforce them accordingly if they feel it is appropriate.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by PG2

Because you when you carry a licence the condtions of that licence must be printed on the licence or you must carry a copy of those conditions.

So when you are pulled over, the policeman can see those conditions and enforce them accordingly if they feel it is appropriate.

wrong, how can a policeman book you for a law that doesn't exist. NSW police can't book you for traffic offences for which there is no law - hence extradition requirements between States for higher level law

I specialise in OHS law, it is particular to Victoria, NSW has WHS law and is different from Victorian law - so how can one authority book you for a law that doesn't exist in their jurisdiction?

VicPol can only enforce Victorian law, NSW Police can only enforce NSW law, Federal Police can only enforce Federal law

Federals can only shut Federal borders, only States can shut State borders - can I make it any clearer?

[PG2]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

wrong, how can a policeman book you for a law that doesn't exist. NSW police can't book you for traffic offences for which there is no law - hence extradition requirements between States

You call me wrong once more without doing your own research I'm going to start deleting your posts.

You also made those statements so you too can go and look it up and quote it.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by PG2

You call me wrong once more without doing your own research I'm going to start deleting your posts.

You also made those statements so you too can go and look it up and quote it.

I don't have to look it coz I won't find - so it is pointless. No such ruling exists

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by PG2

You call me wrong once more without doing your own research I'm going to start deleting your posts.

You also made those statements so you too can go and look it up and quote it.

You are the one insisting I am wrong mate, but haven't provided any evidence to refute me, the onus is on you. I acknowledged I was wrong about the trailers - why can't you do the same

[burnz]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

waiting

how about we reverse that Trev.

no P plate in WA but comes to NSW, then what..

abide by the rules in each state, just like truck driver have to..

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by burnz

how about we reverse that Trev.

no P plate in WA but comes to NSW, then what..

abide by the rules in each state, just like truck driver have to..

Depends on what the States requirements are for driving in their State

[PG2]

https://roads-waterways.transport.ns...l-visitor.html

Visiting provisional drivers
If you have a provisional licence from interstate or overseas, you must follow the licence conditions applied by the state or territory that issued your licence, as well as the NSW road rules.

For example, if your licence was issued with a condition prohibiting you from driving at night or with passengers, you must continue to obey those conditions when driving in NSW.

Make sure you get to know the road rules for NSW – read our Road User Handbook.