The VACC wants the Victorian government to implement an annual rwc requirement for vehicles aged 8 years+

[fgpsi]

https://vacc.com.au/News/Publication...tion-manifesto

[T3rminator]

For general safety check...there might be an argument.

But if it includes all the other malarkey that has nothing to do with safety, then a big fat NO from me.

[fgpsi]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

For general safety check...there might be an argument.

But if it includes all the other malarkey that has nothing to do with safety, then a big fat NO from me.

"safety check" lol

will turn into a $2000 bill at most places

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

For general safety check...there might be an argument.

But if it includes all the other malarkey that has nothing to do with safety, then a big fat NO from me.

Agree with safety check, I'm an early starter where I see the same old bombs driving to work with the same headlights or tail/stops light not working, day in day out.
Annual vehicle checks will help getting these things repaired or thrown off the road.
I bet we all see the same old crap boxes getting around our roads.
Cheers.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Itsme

Agree with safety check, I'm an early starter where I see the same old bombs driving to work with the same headlights or tail/stops light not working, day in day out.
Annual vehicle checks will help getting these things repaired or thrown off the road.
I bet we all see the same old crap boxes getting around our roads.
Cheers.

There's nothing stopping police handing out warnings for this sort of stuff either, they don't all have to sit behind radar guns at the very end of the overtaking lane on the highway

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by Itsme

Agree with safety check, I'm an early starter where I see the same old bombs driving to work with the same headlights or tail/stops light not working, day in day out.
Annual vehicle checks will help getting these things repaired or thrown off the road.
I bet we all see the same old crap boxes getting around our roads.
Cheers.

So get RWC done and all good.
2 days later headlight globe fails.
Drive around for another 363 days with a blow globe?
Shouldnt need a RWC to be told you have a light out i dont reckon.
I agree re the more serious issues though.

As i said annual RWC happens in NSW, you wouldnt pick it though. So many heaps of junk around.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by DJM83

As i said annual RWC happens in NSW, you wouldnt pick it though. So many heaps of junk around.

But at least the heaps of junk have tyre tread, working brakes and lights at some point in the last 12 months!

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by DJM83

So get RWC done and all good.
2 days later headlight globe fails.
Drive around for another 363 days with a blow globe?
Shouldnt need a RWC to be told you have a light out i dont reckon.
I agree re the more serious issues though.

As i said annual RWC happens in NSW, you wouldnt pick it though. So many heaps of junk around.

My comment was initially for a regular inspection not an RWC but we all know it is not a perfect system, but at least some proactive action is being done to combat unroadworthy vehicles on our roads.
To all the naysayers who are against regular inspections don't whinge when your pride and joy gets cleaned up by some moron in a S*** box, has happened twice to me with no compensation from the uninsured and left out of pocket.
IMO proactive action is better than reactive action.

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by Itsme

My comment was initially for a regular inspection not an RWC but we all know it is not a perfect system, but at least some proactive action is being done to combat unroadworthy vehicles on our roads.
To all the naysayers who are against regular inspections don't whinge when your pride and joy gets cleaned up by some moron in a S*** box, has happened twice to me with no compensation from the uninsured and left out of pocket.
IMO proactive action is better than reactive action.

Oh im not against it.
I just feel that it doesnt work all that well considering the amount of junk heaps on the road.

[Tassie f100]

Originally Posted by Itsme

My comment was initially for a regular inspection not an RWC but we all know it is not a perfect system, but at least some proactive action is being done to combat unroadworthy vehicles on our roads.
To all the naysayers who are against regular inspections don't whinge when your pride and joy gets cleaned up by some moron in a S*** box, has happened twice to me with no compensation from the uninsured and left out of pocket.
IMO proactive action is better than reactive action.

How would your circumstance been different if the s- box had been inspected a few days/ months earlier.An inspection doesn’t mean it would have been insured.I guess I must have missed something in the translation

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Itsme

I bet we all see the same old crap boxes getting around our roads.

Yes, usually on club plates going to work.
I wouldn't mind licence testing every 5 years, a caravan lowing licence and no more Mom and Dad teaching Junior how to drive like them.
Seems like all the car accidents I see are usually s*it drivers in new lounge rooms.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Yes, usually on club plates going to work.
I wouldn't mind licence testing every 5 years, a caravan lowing licence and no more Mom and Dad teaching Junior how to drive like them.
Seems like all the car accidents I see are usually s*it drivers in new lounge rooms.

Ah yes the Mitsubishi Express L300 car club! They seem to hold their club events at the local waste transfer station once a month.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Ah yes the Mitsubishi Express L300 car club! They seem to hold their club events at the local waste transfer station once a month.

Not just Mitzi's. More recently been spotting lots of older Landcruisers and Patrols on club plates towing tools trailers and caravans.
Maybe Vic should follow NSW and up the age limit for Historic to 30 years.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Ah yes the Mitsubishi Express L300 car club! They seem to hold their club events at the local waste transfer station once a month.

Plus a pool of oil in the Bunnings carpark

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Yes, usually on club plates going to work.
I wouldn't mind licence testing every 5 years, a caravan lowing licence and no more Mom and Dad teaching Junior how to drive like them.
Seems like all the car accidents I see are usually s*it drivers in new lounge rooms.

I don't know about mum & dads being bad for teaching their own kids, but I think the driving school's instructors should be vetted more often, as I see many learners being instructed doing many wrong things on our roads and freeways, one pet hate I often see is failing to keep left and driving under the speed limit.

[FTE217]

Long overdue look forward to it
If you frequent a shonk mechanic yep he'll take advantage, will weed out some dodgy workshops and have more safer cars on the roads with appropite tread on rubber and brakes in good working order - I'd sooner the 2 above when these low maintenance neglecting repairs when heading towards my wife's car and kids in the rain more so.......

[Wretched]

I'm in two minds with this one. I am all for checks of cars, ours are regularly serviced by the dealer.

My concern is around who will fund the annual checks? Ideally it should be part of the rego, which is costly as it is (otherwise just another money grab to hide the issue or **** drivers and **** roads). The image only states it is linked to rego but my assumption on that is, no pass, no rego.
The second item would be to understand what the criteria/scope of checks will include. My worry is that it would "creep" out a little.
Thirdly who would be eligible to carry out these checks and how long before the rego expires will it need to be done?

[Franco Cozzo]

I've never paid for a legitimate road worthy certificate in my life - and I don't intend on starting now

Good money spinner for workshops, anyone willing to bend the rules is going to do well out of this.

I've still got my ABN

VACC don't know **** from clay, they're just trying to pretend they're actually doing something for their members aside from their white and orange sign they give you.

You'd do more for safety if you introduced Australian Standards for replacement service items, no more Chinese tyres and brake pads that don't grip for **** and hardly stop the car.

Car yard wants second hand tyres and $12 brake pads for the cars on its lot and when it rains your child ends up on DCOA compilation backwards in the roundabout.

If they want to introduce this legislation then since speed limits are set for the lowest common denominator on our roads then those of us who pass these requirements should be able to do speed limit + 250%

Poor vehicle condition leads to 6% of traffic fatalities, so let's spend a ****load overhauling the registration system of Victoria to reduce it by 50%, to a total of 3% of the road toll.

So in 2021, 11 people died on our roads from poorly maintained cars, and they want to spend all this money to reduce it to around 6 people a year.

How many Victorians die a week from COVID? Why this fascination with the minuscule amount of Victorians dying on our roads?

185 deaths/year out of 6.3 million people is acceptable numbers to me - system is fine as it is.

[T3rminator]

https://www.bitre.gov.au/statistics/...crash_database

A quick look at the fatality stats from the last few years, excluding covid lock down years. Which states have yearly checks? NSW as far as I know. Based on that, doesn't look like its making a difference. Have I missed something?

2018:
ACT 9
NSW 347
NT 50
Qld 245
SA 80
Tas 32
Vic 213
WA 158


2019:
ACT 6
NSW 353
NT 36
Qld 219
SA 114
Tas 29
Vic 266
WA 163


2022:
ACT 12
NSW 226
NT 38
Qld 226
SA 55
Tas 43
Vic 192
WA 118

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

https://www.bitre.gov.au/statistics/...crash_database

A quick look at the fatality stats from the last few years, excluding covid lock down years. Which states have yearly checks? NSW as far as I know. Based on that, doesn't look like its making a difference. Have I missed something?

2018:
ACT 9
NSW 347
NT 50
Qld 245
SA 80
Tas 32
Vic 213
WA 158


2019:
ACT 6
NSW 353
NT 36
Qld 219
SA 114
Tas 29
Vic 266
WA 163


2022:
ACT 12
NSW 226
NT 38
Qld 226
SA 55
Tas 43
Vic 192
WA 118

40% of Australia's entire population lives in Melbourne and Sydney metropolitan areas and yet combined its less than 750 deaths a year between both out of over 10 million people.

Mountain out of a mole hill, if anything they should be cutting funding to organisations like the TAC because they're over funded.

[.:4:.]

Annual rego inspections, really? Its not a big deal if your car is in decent shape. If you drive a raging pile, well, if deemed unsafe then probably shouldnt be on the road.

[Trevor 57]

Won't happen, there is no data to support the implementation of RWC in Victoria

Less than 1% of all fatal and near fatal accidents are a result of an unroadworthy vehicle, it is ALWAYS other contributing factors, like speed, fatigue alcohol & drugs, distraction, etc

NSW has compulsory annual roadworthies and their road fatalities are no better than ours (in fact worse) and T3rminator's numbers support my argument

The whole thing is about drumming up business for their members , nothing more, nothing less

[smoo]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

The whole thing is about drumming up business for their members , nothing more, nothing less

Or if like anti motorist, anti roading NZ it will be used as a tool to remove old vehicles off the road (reducing the average age of national fleet), another way to make it more expensive and inconvenient to own a vehicle in the hope people will use public transport or cycle.
6 monthly or annual vehicle checks can be carried out by Indy garages at their discretion but most checks done by Govt initiated testing stations full of third world failed ‘mechanics’ paid above industry standard but have nfi what they are looking at.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

The whole thing is about drumming up business for their members , nothing more, nothing less

Its about time they did something for their members

They'd be better off trying to shore up support for independent repairers rather than trying to lobby the media with bull**** stories, but that would mean actually doing something for the money you give them.

They're an irrelevant group who do **** all for the industry.

[au2000]

It will come in at some point as some “green initiative” to remove older cars from our roads and replace them with newer ev’s

[fgpsi]

Originally Posted by au2000

It will come in at some point as some “green initiative” to remove older cars from our roads and replace them with newer ev’s

ok no problem

as long as the victorian government buys our heavily collectible classic au forte's off us for top dollar . I'm in

[au2000]

Originally Posted by fgpsi

ok no problem

as long as the victorian government buys our heavily collectible classic au forte's off us for top dollar . I'm in

I’d be screwed, I have 2 au’s a ba and a bf !

[simon varley]

I'm surprised it's out to 8 years. UK starts at 3yo cars annually, Germany starts at 3yo bi-annually. 15 US states have annual inspection requirements starting even from 2yo

I'm further surprised that Vic Classic reg doesn't require roadworthy after the initial one

[foxtrot3]

Originally Posted by simon varley

I'm surprised it's out to 8 years. UK starts at 3yo cars annually, Germany starts at 3yo bi-annually. 15 US states have annual inspection requirements starting even from 2yo

I'm further surprised that Vic Classic reg doesn't require roadworthy after the initial one

Hi. Cant really use any of those countries as a guide to how long to wait for inspections to start as the roads can get salted during winter to melt the snow. You tend to find that cars in those places rust out in 4 or 5 years with things like brake lines starting to fail at 2 years old. Cheers MD

[simon varley]

Originally Posted by foxtrot3

You tend to find that cars in those places rust out in 4 or 5 years with things like brake lines starting to fail at 2 years old.

sure, but it's about a lot more than just corrosion isn't it? brake fluid degrades after 2 years as it's hydroscopic. over worn tyres and busted headlamps would be picked up. again - it only proves the car is safe 'on the day' but given some of the **** heaps around here I can't wait for it to come.