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Hey guys I am undertaking a dash swap from a AUII forte to a black AUII Fairmont Ghia. What is involved in the conversion.
So far after taking the forte dash out I have got this far. Passanger airbag will be a strait swap. Radio is a strait swap. Headlight switch is a strait swap. Buttons such as Door lock / unlock, fuel cap release will be a strait swap. I am going to wire in the half height aerial switch. No traction control in the wagon so dont worry about that. This is where it gets interesting: The controls for the a/c heater is controlled by cable and the fan speed, direction is controlled by electrics. How does one get the three dials in a forte to work on the screen of the woodgrain fairont dash. ie does the heater box ect have to come out and be replaced with the HIN modual and solinode. The AC and rear demistor button is rewired from its position on the forte dash to its position on the woodgrain dash. Simply rewire it or is there more?. The Fairmont dash requires a high series BEM. Therefore once the dash is changed the BEM and ECU wont match up and the car wont start. To fix this take the car to Ford, or can the keys be reprogrammed. (How do I move the car if it wont start? without towing it!!!) I assume that an AUII XR cluster will drop right into a Fairmont dash. I can find out (where's HLC's car lol) I am sure Stav will jump on here and ask a few more questions. Thanks
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If you need a High Series (Pink) BEM ... I have one spare ... I think it's sitting on teh floor of the ute ... I found out I didn't need it as the XLs utilises a High Series Bem with a few features disabled.
SO I don't need it. I do know of an auto sparky in my area that can reprogramme keys to the new BEM ... but your best bet is Ford though ... and yes you will need to get it towed ... unless you wanna push it ... hee hee. AUII XR cluster should swap straight over ... just need to put in an oil pressure sender on the side of the engine instead of a switch. Did you get a full loom with the dash ... if not ... then a little bit of wiring is need to get full functionality of the higher series cluster (as you will be using YOUR original loom which goes back to the BEM from memory as well).
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Drive it there, park it and swap the BEM on the spot maybe? I think the connectors are a little different but not sure to what extent
For the climate control to work you will need... Climate control module (the panel in the woodgrain) Fan Speed controller Blend Door motor Vacuum solenoid and appropriate vacuum hoses Sunload sensor Ambient temp sensor A lot of loom Unfortunately it is not just a case of swapping the pulley system for a motor If you need asistance with this there are some very good wiring diagrams in the Gallery Low series A/C High series A/C |
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ask DUFFMAN he will know
as he did the forte to TS50 interior swap (i think thats the interior he used?)
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might need to pop into the bottle 'o' and grab a slab... i was contemplating doing the dash conversion in my au too, but was quickly talked out of doing it. :hihi:
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Would it be easier to get a Fairmont cluster that suits the dash, and just put the XR mask in it?
You do need a new heater box, you need the MDC and the climate control sensors for the front airdam, the top of the dash and one other (cant remember where it is though).
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Thanks guys..it is alot more involved than meets the eye.Got the blinker working and the illumination.It was getting late and the radio went full boar with the ignition switched on.It was the dash cluster.the bcm is different so I think the higher cluster with bcm should be fine.
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Oh well ... as I mentioned ... if you need the high series BEM ... I have one sitting in the ute doing nothing. And I don't need it.
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Simon, thank you, I may be taking you up on that offer.
Austin, My forte dash is grey and boring. The black Fairmont dash is the way to go. I will be putting a T3 fascia on the cluster.
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Duffman changed to a black dash, so nothing changed it was plug and play.
I beleive T3man has done the conversion from TE50 tO TS50.
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Just a thought, T3man may have his old TE50 dash and might be willing to part with it for the right price. then again, he may not.
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so what happened to this...? any Pics...
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Have not swapped the dash YET. Black Fairmont dash still sitting on my bedroom floor. When the motor gets swapped the dash will come out then, since I have to change all the engine bay wiring and fuse panel in the dash anyway.
Stav and I have got a plan on how to do it. Just waiting to put the engine in first.
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i've got an xr dash, tried 2 install it into au2 futura, but got no illumination or right side blinker either.. the radiator light was on too.. do u have 2 swap wires 2 make it work right??
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Yeah you do, do a search there is a list and diagram of what has to be changed. I don't think I have it anymore
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Hi all just picked up a series 1 fairmont ghia today with plans to swap the interior into my series III wagon (forte). Couple of questions
1. Will the series I dash and all of the other bits with it be able to plug in a work in a series III forte. 2. Provided i can get the dash to work, will a series II/III tickford XR cluster work with the series I ghia dash.
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-You could still use the physical dash but id recommend you get S2/3 wiring and heaterbox, then you should have no problem going to a S2/3 XR Cluster (will just lose a few features of the fairmont cluster)
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i found the changes u have 2 make 2 make the xr cluster work in low series AU.. u can find it in technical documents on fordmods.com.au
p.s. it is a crap job 2 do, i'm still fiddling wit it.. all working except speedo, cruise & kick switch for gear change.. |
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Any more news on this. looking at doi ng this as well.
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Picking the dash up next weekend, i thought id post this up anyway... i was asking "wgn485" a few questions as his put a fairmont dash in his AU2/3 wagon...
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That last post has what i would say is some very good info. As, now i have aquired myself a 2001 Fairlane Ghia Donar car. Realistically i won't have enough time until november (thanks to uni) to do the swap. But i will definately be doing it. Also, as it was a v8 i will save up and do the v8 conversion at the same time. So if anyone else does it in the meantime i would be happy for any other further info.
Cheers, Rhys
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Well I just though I'd put this out there. There is going to be another dash conversion this weekend.
I'm going from base model xl ute dash to fairmont ghia dash, as well as all the door cards and door looms as well. I've got all the main bits here, hope I've got most of the fiddly bits to. Just unsure now on the door looms. I believe from my research I've also figured out the ambient temp too. Wait and see though. It all starts tomorrow night though. Cheers
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Hey Roo.
Don't you need the left hand side mirror from a ghia? I think this is where the sensor for the ambient air temp is? GK Quote:
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i thought that sensor was the little black one in the front bumper mouth area
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