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Old 04-05-2014, 04:10 PM   #10
Franco Cozzo
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Default Re: Tax the rich?

The problem with the dole is that its geared the wrong way, and there is this bullshit called job network providers (The Howard Government started this scam) who sign you up and are supposed to help you look for work you get assessed and put into streams, 1 through to 4.

Stream 1 you are deemed as short term unemployed so the government won't allocate any resources to these "job network providers" to help you find a job, you're on your own but the network provider puts you on the books. I believe its $11 the government allocates to them so you can use the phone or internet there.

Stream 2 is where they start helping you look for a job, they'll out your name out there with their contacts etc.

Stream 3 is you might get some resources allocated to put you through training

Stream 4 is druggoes/alcoholics and homeless people, they get all the resources put into them such as training etc.

Job network providers are a scam, they just want you on the books to get money from the government, half of them out there don't give a **** about you and just want you on the books to get kickbacks from the government, or will try get a cut out of you when you find a job.

Effectively the government is putting the most resources into druggoes and alcoholics, they get all the training from the tax payer, the people who most likely don't want to work, it should be the other way around.

Someone I knew, dole bludging druggo got put through Cert III in warehousing on behalf of the tax payer and put through fork lift training on your behalf too and he doesn't even want work, so go figure.

Me or you, would get nothing.

Me for example:

No government subsidies on anything under diploma level courses because I'm currently doing a diploma (which is no longer subsides by government so full fee again), full fee for me, cost me $2500 last year for a 10 day course which was a Cert IV.

Not eligable for traineeship positions because I've got a qualification already, so I'm off the books right away for trainee positions with companies as they don't get government subsidy for me.

Not enough experience to get into a position with my Cert IV.

Not enough experience during my apprenticeship to be employed as my trade in a normal workshop, specialised area is all I did.

I'm 22, how do you think some 50 year old manufacturing worker with no qualifications, who has been working at Ford/Holden for the last 30 years is going to go with finding work in another field?

So far I've been too old (traineeship wanted recent school leaver) and too young (not enough experience) for two jobs.

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