20th anniversary return of V8 engines

[flappist]

Originally Posted by davez104

Yet everyone still thinks of them as Holdens.

Yeh but some people think that AFL is football too.......

[Bud Bud]

Originally Posted by loftie

I can't believe the rubbish about FPV isn't Ford etc...

Um - who makes and assembles the actual car (not the driveline)??

FPV and Ford are one and the same... and without Ford - you have no FPV... (though interestingly - without FPV - you still have Ford)

Does that mean without FPV you would not have V8 option either??? I think that this is the point that many are trying to make or at least that's what it seems to me!

Bud Bud

[Joe5619]

All this current talk about no V8 ford is so dumb!!! Ford has just realeased the best V8 on the market!! For god sake people, get a grip!! Enjoy the current V8!!

[b0son]

Originally Posted by Joe5619

For god sake people, get a grip!! Enjoy the current V8!!

Fair point.

IMO, FPV are to be applauded for the investment they made in the 5.0L considering current sales volumes.

OTOH, Ford Aus should not. They've dropped the V8 as an option across the range, they dropped the XR8, and they had nothing to do with the 5.4L's replacement.

If anyone's to be celebrated, its FPV for keeping the faith (IMO).

[RedHotGT]

Originally Posted by davez104

Yet everyone still thinks of them as Holdens.

Because essentially they are...

Take the holden components away from a HSV - and what do you have??

Same goes for FPV... Without Ford - your 335 coyote is still sitting in the crate...

Bravo...

[davez104]

Hey, you don't have to tell me that. But there's a lot of people here whinging that Ford don't have a V8 because they see FPV as 'not Ford', got me buggered, I see them as Ford and HSV as Holden.

[Mesa]

Thanks Ford for the re-introduction of the V8 which allows us to celebrate this milestone.
FPV/Ford to me is one and the same. You still need to go to a Ford dealer to buy one.
As far as surplus XR8's, If that's true , I'd love to be able to afford one!!!!

[04redxr8]

Holden sells cars because their supporters will go and buy the cars regardless of bad press, and past experiences.

Ford supporters seem to do nothing other than whinge and ***** and p155 and moan about every frivoulous peice of crap, from a badge, to marketing, to colours, to option lists, to the marketing department, and every other stupid thing they can think of.

Then they start 27,000 threads about it and warn other potential buyers from buying Fords. Holden doesn't need to raise bad publicity about Ford. AFF does it all for them.

Pathetic.

[Adamz Ghia]

I haven't driven the new 5.0, but from what I know, the AUIII 5.6lt was the best V8 they've ever done.

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by davez104

Hey, you don't have to tell me that. But there's a lot of people here whinging that Ford don't have a V8 because they see FPV as 'not Ford', got me buggered, I see them as Ford and HSV as Holden.

Not so many people, just a troll.

[Muscle_Inc]

RESURRECTION - Thank you for bringing it to my attention anyhow (laugh out loud)

Well i own a EB XR8 which hasnt been tickford enhanced and also this would make it my second purchase of owning a 5.0l Ford Falcon

A big happy 20 years of v8 muscle Ford!!!!

[Resurrection]

The 20th anniversary date approaches. I believe the EB model was released for sale during August 1991. Can anybody confirm this?

[TheZHLANE]

How is fpv not ford? :S

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by TheZHLANE

How is fpv not ford? :S

FPV is 51% owned by prodrive and 49% owned by ford.

[mash again]

just cause tickford touched it doesnt make it a performance car, my XH ute had factory gas fitted by...............tickford.

FPV, last time i looked stood for FORD performance vehicles.

[AEF_Silver94]

what the hell?, so, when some of you see a FPV, do you say to yourselves " nope,not a ford "

Maybe in the v8 supercars we can have ford vs fpv, sort this epic battle once and for all since both are so different.

[Bobman]

Originally Posted by flappist

Surely you are not saying the I6 was a performance model but the V8 wasn't......

Considering the XR6 was quicker...

I had a factory 5 speed manual EA Fairmont Ghia as well. Great car!

[2011G6E]

I'd be really interested in knowing if there was any real loss to the company from dropping the V8...and by "real" I mean something that would make the board grab thier chest and scream "Holy crapola we're going down the gurgler...get that V8 production line started again or we'll be bankrupt by the end of the year!!!"

I recall the outcry, the massive hair-tearing and teeth gnashing, that accompianied the dropping of the V8 from the range back in what? 1985?
There were predictions in street car magazines that it would spell the doom of the Falcon, it would kill Fords participation in motor sport, it would mean people who towed things would now have massive horse floats and big boats sitting idle in the front yard, we'll all be dooooooooooooooomed!!!!!!!

Yet, to face reality, 95% of people who "tow big loads"...truly big loads (and sometimes not-so-big loads)...buy a four wheel drive, and did back then too. The number of people prepared to stump up for a V8 were small...and still are small. Not really enough to worry about in a marketing sense. To be blunt, a small number of enthusiast magazines and groups of spotty 18 year olds with rusty Toyota Corollas with mags, complaining about the unavailability of a car they would never be able to afford anyway, doesn't really matter in the big picture.

I think now, as back then in the eighties, people like the idea of a Falcon V8...but as for actually buying one, well, let's just say that back then a V8 was a far more common choice of engine for ordinary drivers than it is now, and the company didn't die off or stop going into motor sport, did it?

A smallish number (in relative terms compared to actual buyers) of enthusiasts, many of whom have never and will never buy a V8 brand new of the showroom floor, can't expect a company to keep an uneconomic part of the business.


Ford survived perfectly well...and the Falcon still sold like gangbusters...without a V8 in the range before. No reason it won't now.

[ELGT4me]

Originally Posted by mash again

just cause tickford touched it doesnt make it a performance car, my XH ute had factory gas fitted by...............tickford.

FPV, last time i looked stood for FORD performance vehicles.

Err mash, did the car have the Tickford "Wings" on it ? Only cars that had the "full" treatment by Tickford earnt the right to carry the wings.

[ELGT4me]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

I'd be really interested in knowing if there was any real loss to the company from dropping the V8...and by "real" I mean something that would make the board grab thier chest and scream "Holy crapola we're going down the gurgler...get that V8 production line started again or we'll be bankrupt by the end of the year!!!"

I recall the outcry, the massive hair-tearing and teeth gnashing, that accompianied the dropping of the V8 from the range back in what? 1985?
There were predictions in street car magazines that it would spell the doom of the Falcon, it would kill Fords participation in motor sport, it would mean people who towed things would now have massive horse floats and big boats sitting idle in the front yard, we'll all be dooooooooooooooomed!!!!!!!

Yet, to face reality, 95% of people who "tow big loads"...truly big loads (and sometimes not-so-big loads)...buy a four wheel drive, and did back then too. The number of people prepared to stump up for a V8 were small...and still are small. Not really enough to worry about in a marketing sense. To be blunt, a small number of enthusiast magazines and groups of spotty 18 year olds with rusty Toyota Corollas with mags, complaining about the unavailability of a car they would never be able to afford anyway, doesn't really matter in the big picture.

I think now, as back then in the eighties, people like the idea of a Falcon V8...but as for actually buying one, well, let's just say that back then a V8 was a far more common choice of engine for ordinary drivers than it is now, and the company didn't die off or stop going into motor sport, did it?

A smallish number (in relative terms compared to actual buyers) of enthusiasts, many of whom have never and will never buy a V8 brand new of the showroom floor, can't expect a company to keep an uneconomic part of the business.


Ford survived perfectly well...and the Falcon still sold like gangbusters...without a V8 in the range before. No reason it won't now.

Some good points in your discussion, but I'll recall what the late great Mr Polities stated " when we dropped the v8, we lost our DNA" .People who purchased v8's for whatever reason, then turned to the other mob, for their v8 fix.We were then watching v8 Mustangs & Seirra's race against the other mob. The return of the v8 in the EB series of cars, was a breath of fresh air to a stale Ford market. Yes, we should be celebrating the return of the v8 in the EB. After all, it was our first fuel injected v8.

[tezxr8man]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

The 20th anniversary date approaches. I believe the EB model was released for sale during August 1991. Can anybody confirm this?

I am fairly sure it is July or August, mine is August build with sunroof and manual

[LUXO_8]

my NC is 7/91, factory 5.0 car

[ebxr8240]

I still have the EB S EXR8 I bought in Sept 91..
Sheesh ! I better wash and polish her...