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[MONSOON]

: The new Mondeo is bigger than a BF Falcon in nearly every measure except its betwwen 72mm(sedan) & 138mm(hatch) shorter overall,
What's going on? Has the world gone mad? When are they all going to realize that every new model doesn't need to dwarf the model it replaces!
What does this mean for the Orion Falcon? Is it growing too...

[Jayden]

cars are getting massive. im standing in a carpark the otherday and my EF is the lowest car there and the rest are all hatches / small cars ect. its stock ride height too. ive never heard anyone complain about head room in a falcon before.

[sleekism]

Yeah I know what you mean it's an absolute scam how big the new Camry is and still uses a tired old fourbanger. The ones at work have horrendous fuel economy yet people snap them up after we are done with them because they are "an economical four cylinder".

Apparently the new model Corolla is bigger than the early 90's Camry.

The thing is though if the Falcons are getting bigger than why does my old XE feel the roomiest inside???

[Polyal]

So buy a focus?

[Disciple]

New Orion GT will be 2 tonne.

[MAGPIE]

Originally Posted by Jayden

ive never heard anyone complain about head room in a falcon before.

WTF have you never sat in the back of a AU/BA/BF ?

[Powdered Toast Man]

I know what you mean, new cars are so bulky and bulbus looking. The EF was nice and low and sleek, I'm 6'2" and well over 100kgs and I never had any interior space issues in my old EF. But then again I am swimming in head room in the BA.

[AUIIForte]

Originally Posted by MAGPIE

WTF have you never sat in the back of a AU/BA/BF ?

I am 6 foot 4, about 98kgs and can fit in the back of an AU with still plenty of head room. Never complained, even on long 15 hour trips.

Well, I can only see you saying that if you are a behemoth.

[TheSneakiness]

Originally Posted by Disciple

New Orion GT will be 2 tonne.

Ouch man. Seriously.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least though.

[tapeworm]

My EF was once considered a large car and still is big enough, but it literally looks small when sitting next to a new Corolla, why does each new model have to be bigger than the last? New cars are starting to look seriously retarded because of the pure size of the things. Yeah, new GT will probably literally weigh 2 tonnes, perfect for a performance car.

[klawsterfobik]

The reason that cars are getting bigger is pretty simple really.... the people that drive and use them are getting bigger. Both up and out!

[DJL351]

Originally Posted by AUIIForte

I am 6 foot 4, about 98kgs and can fit in the back of an AU with still plenty of head room. Never complained, even on long 15 hour trips.

Well, I can only see you saying that if you are a behemoth.

DJL351 = 6'7" 100+

While I will agree about the head room being okay, the leg room is not!

[AWD Chaser]

Let the specifications speak for themselves:
All models are current unless stated otherwise.

FORD

Falcon - 4916mm
Falcon (xd 1980) - 4730mm
27 Years - 186mm

Fairlane - 5153mm
Fairlane (zj 1980) - 5020mm
27 years - 133mm

Mondeo - 4844mm
Mondeo (1995) - 4481mm
12 years - 363mm

HOLDEN

Commodore - 4894mm
Commodore (1984 VK) - 4714mm
23 years - 180mm

Statesman - 5160mm
Deville (1980 WB) - 5150mm
27 years - 10mm

Astra - 4249mm
Astra convertible - 4476mm
Astra (1984) - 3960mm
23 years - 289/516mm

TOYOTA

Aurion - 4825mm
Camery (1983) - 4435mm
24 years - 390mm

Corrola - 4220mm
Corrola (1980) - 4000mm
27 years - 220mm

MITSUBISHI
380 - 4855mm
Magana (1985) - 4600mm
22 years - 255mm


So your only really talking on average about a 20-40cm increase of about 25 years.... really not that much bigger... plus when you consider the amount of extra crap in the car and under the bonnet.

[Jayden]

Originally Posted by MAGPIE

WTF have you never sat in the back of a AU/BA/BF ?

yes and I didnt notice anything but im not tall. what are you? 8 foot? jk. The AU does feel smaller inside than the EF due to how sloped the windows are, I would have guessed its bigger though being a massive bulb shape.

[pauljh74]

Originally Posted by Jayden

cars are getting massive. im standing in a carpark the otherday and my EF is the lowest car there and the rest are all hatches / small cars ect. its stock ride height too. ive never heard anyone complain about head room in a falcon before.

I've got an EL, am 6'1" and over 100kgs. I do sit quite upright and with the seat slid most of the way back. Especially in the mornings when my spine has expanded that bit overnight my head is just brushing the roof. In the arvo I have a little more clearance.

Most of the small and medium cars now have markedly higher rooflines and bootlines i.e. the cargo area is much taller. Most of the car parks now don't accommodate lengthwise a car like a Falcon, let alone a LWB sedan. The car parks are getting tighter, but the cars get bigger.

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by MAGPIE

WTF have you never sat in the back of a AU/BA/BF ?

Plenty of room in the back of my BA. I don't sit in the back of one that often but was very comfortable the last time I did.

[Rodp]

Originally Posted by pauljh74

I've got an EL, am 6'1" and over 100kgs. I do sit quite upright and with the seat slid most of the way back. Especially in the mornings when my spine has expanded that bit overnight my head is just brushing the roof. In the arvo I have a little more clearance.

Most of the small and medium cars now have markedly higher rooflines and bootlines i.e. the cargo area is much taller. Most of the car parks now don't accommodate lengthwise a car like a Falcon, let alone a LWB sedan. The car parks are getting tighter, but the cars get bigger.

I like to recline a little in my BA (I'm 6'3) but if I was to move my seat all the way back, I'd barely reach the pedals. I have loads of headroom. In my EF I was millimeters from the roofline, reclined with the seat all the way back. BA I've got several inches, very comfortable.

[Nostalgia]

No mention yet about the difference in engine capacity between Mondeo and Orion. WTF.