Depression, Anxiety

[Tui2]

Originally Posted by superyob

Aaaameeen!!! This applies in all aspects of life, whether suffering a condition or not. This is the number 1 way forward in anybody's journey through life...

Isn't that the plain truth of it all, admit to being human can elude many people, hey it took me near 40 years to openly tell people i may annoy or offend you unintentionally or intentionally without cause, i have a mental illness but could also just feel like being a pri...priceless non conformer for a change of pace.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by supershifty

Upon reflection to the above post, I'll add to it.

When I was learning to calm the f down and chilling about my anger with people, I looked inside myself and asked myself this question: How did I contribute to this situation? It's all too easy to put the blame on someone else, it takes action and reaction. Not always the other persons fault.

You've got to be honest with yourself first guys. Part of my "tool" kit for dealing with crap.

I'm winning this battle, not over yet by a long mile.

Cheers!

If you were asked to undertake a 4 yr apprenticeship in 3 months, got 2 weeks in only to be told there is no pay for those 3 months despite agreeing to be paid from day 1, who is at fault?

If i then said i'd agreed to do the job for 20k less per year than the going rate and agreed to take less in the first half of the contract so they could coninue paying the current greenkeeper for 3 months whilst he taught me his trade. What more should i do to accommodate.

If you went to work and were twice as productive as the bloke going home early on a long weekend, would you accept it.

I know i've got issues, i take responsibility for that and manage them the best i can, but i wont tolerate being used.

[Tui2]

Originally Posted by olfella

I think I can manage my depression but like a few on here now, it is the explosive reactions I have. I can control them to some extent by recognising the symptoms and removing myself from situations. Where I cannot do this is when all hell breaks out and it can go as fast as it arrives. I have no answers and nor does some of the professionals I have visited.

I hear you old man, cause it gets tiresome and I'm at the point where a smack in the head is something i welcome cause i feel i deserve it, but verbal abuse demeaning degrading me because of what my disorder has resulting in doing/not doing can cause shameful reactions that i cant bare to recall as to not fall deeper into depression, so please loved ones ,mates , anyone who chose to befriend a mentally ill person and truly wish to support, learn the methods to do so, cause Captain Obvious remarks, no matter how well intended, can be taken way out of context when mentally ill, support groups or pdfs are abundant, so if you look together and agree on the type of supportive actions as a trial, no fingers need to be pointed and another practice can be trialled

[superyob]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/...ectid=11602692

Some interesting points here...

[TheSneakiness]

Feeling very anxious today, my chest is starting to tighten and usually work distracts me but today I'm having trouble shaking it.

My calming technique as stupid as it may sound to some of you is actually scanning Youtube for things to watch but being at work its going to be frowned upon considering the workload I have.

[danzvtil]

Originally Posted by Rapid_Axe

Feeling very anxious today, my chest is starting to tighten and usually work distracts me but today I'm having trouble shaking it.

My calming technique as stupid as it may sound to some of you is actually scanning Youtube for things to watch but being at work its going to be frowned upon considering the workload I have.

Not good mate, can you chuck a sicky tomorrow and relax?

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by Rapid_Axe

Feeling very anxious today, my chest is starting to tighten and usually work distracts me but today I'm having trouble shaking it.

My calming technique as stupid as it may sound to some of you is actually scanning Youtube for things to watch but being at work its going to be frowned upon considering the workload I have.

If I read it right in another thread, you have recently been promoted which takes effect in a few weeks....just try to take the positives out of that on board and use the next few weeks to start thinking about how you can make a huge difference in your next role...

[SYZ]

Originally Posted by Rapid_Axe

[...] My calming technique as stupid as it may sound to some of you is actually scanning YouTube for things to watch but being at work its going to be frowned upon considering the workload I have.

Your "calming technique" doesn't sound at all stupid to me; in fact it sounds more than logical, particularly if it works as it's intended. It's also often one of my relaxation techniques, so I can confirm that getting lost in YouTube defocusses me from (apparently) pressing issues that can, in reality, take on more significance than they're worth.

A few of my favourites...

https://www.youtube.com/user/1veritasium
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3e...VletbyVoqSLYTA
https://www.youtube.com/user/Vsauce
https://www.youtube.com/user/ADoseofBuckley/videos

It's a pity that you can't cruise YouTube at work (understandably I guess) but what about listening to a web-based radio station, and wearing earbuds?

[Tui2]

Originally Posted by Rapid_Axe

Feeling very anxious today, my chest is starting to tighten and usually work distracts me but today I'm having trouble shaking it.

My calming technique as stupid as it may sound to some of you is actually scanning Youtube for things to watch but being at work its going to be frowned upon considering the workload I have.

We are ,if nobody, not in the position to judge your calming technique, unless your watching potentially disturbing 'killing of America' type videos, i say that with tongue in cheek but that's the first time I've thought about my viewing of that VHS cassette, since the 80s, so deep down it really did disturb me, brrrrr... shake it off! Where was i..??.. oh yeah calming techniques, I've recently rediscovered morning music video channels again, i have Fox for motor sport, but yest n today i scrolled right down to the bottom of the menu, and came back up 1 (Fox viewer's in joke) and went to the country music channel and had a real good start to the day,, honestly Blake Sheldon made cry, but i put that down to still readjusting to my new meds.. ah humm.. clear throat, talk deeper, chest out and continue, but usually i grab my little bloke and go to the beach, now he suffers from shocking separation anxiety, see attachment photo

[TheSneakiness]

Originally Posted by Trejo

We are ,if nobody, not in the position to judge your calming technique, unless your watching potentially disturbing 'killing of America' type videos, i say that with tongue in cheek but that's the first time I've thought about my viewing of that VHS cassette, since the 80s, so deep down it really did disturb me, brrrrr... shake it off! Where was i..??.. oh yeah calming techniques, I've recently rediscovered morning music video channels again, i have Fox for motor sport, but yest n today i scrolled right down to the bottom of the menu, and came back up 1 (Fox viewer's in joke) and went to the country music channel and had a real good start to the day,, honestly Blake Sheldon made cry, but i put that down to still readjusting to my new meds.. ah humm.. clear throat, talk deeper, chest out and continue, but usually i grab my little bloke and go to the beach, now he suffers from shocking separation anxiety, see attachment photo

Lol... some days I just wish I was that dog...

Originally Posted by The Beast

If I read it right in another thread, you have recently been promoted which takes effect in a few weeks....just try to take the positives out of that on board and use the next few weeks to start thinking about how you can make a huge difference in your next role...

Yes that's true and I love the responsibility it comes with but I've gotta wait til I come off leave start of April. Yay, leave!!!!

Originally Posted by SYZ

Your "calming technique" doesn't sound at all stupid to me; in fact it sounds more than logical, particularly if it works as it's intended. It's also often one of my relaxation techniques, so I can confirm that getting lost in YouTube defocusses me from (apparently) pressing issues that can, in reality, take on more significance than they're worth.

A few of my favourites...

https://www.youtube.com/user/1veritasium
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3e...VletbyVoqSLYTA
https://www.youtube.com/user/Vsauce
https://www.youtube.com/user/ADoseofBuckley/videos

It's a pity that you can't cruise YouTube at work (understandably I guess) but what about listening to a web-based radio station, and wearing earbuds?

My channels include Lets Play gamers and I just discovered Dude Perfect. You'll get the cynics that say oh they didn't do that first time but how does shut up sound? It's entertainment and that's why I watch.

I can't work with music, it drives me insane.

[Tui2]

rapid axe wishes he could just curl up in my undies somedays, isn't that just the most flattering comment I've recieved since breaking up with my fiancé 6 months ago, keep it up and i may just convert , all ingood humour with good company

[TheSneakiness]

Originally Posted by Trejo

rapid axe wishes he could just curl up in my undies somedays, isn't that just the most flattering comment I've recieved since breaking up with my fiancé 6 months ago, keep it up and i may just convert , all ingood humour with good company

They were your reg grundies? LOL!!!!

Told you I wasn't focused that day but bloody hell made me laugh reading it today.

[Road Games]

Hey guys we all may have a different chemical imbalance but i have been road testing some medication to take my mind off certain cravings...

Get down to the chemist and buy some THOMPSON'S Stress Manager tablets

Recommended Highly !

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by DAZZLR

Hey guys we all may have a different chemical imbalance but i have been road testing some medication to take my mind off certain cravings...

Get down to the chemist and buy some THOMPSON'S Stress Manager tablets

Recommended Highly !

I'll back that up.^^^^
My wife's natural therapist rates that stuff highly! Good natural mood enhancer!
But it reacts with antidepressants if your allready on them.
It also has a very similar sedative effect to Valium and the natural '5HTP' I mentioned earlier in the thread!
It's another way of naturally getting your body to make and release its own Serotonin again.(your brains happy drug)

[Tui2]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

I'll back that up.^^^^
My wife's natural therapist rates that stuff highly! Good natural mood enhancer!
But it reacts with antidepressants if your allready on them.
It also has a very similar sedative effect to Valium and the natural '5HTP' I mentioned earlier in the thread!
It's another way of naturally getting your body to make and release its own Serotonin again.(your brains happy drug)

yeah have to be careful if you r taking ssri's..Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors as i did ger Serotonin Syndrome a couple of years ago, high temp, poo through the eye of a needle, but the suden major agitation n uncoordinated typical motions is how i got diagnosed when telling GP that i didn't like the Tegretol cause it made me feel that way,,, whichbi was only just started on trial with back 8 year ago mixed with Epilim for mood stabilisation. well i obviously produced too much happy juice IE Serotonin Syndrome

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by Trejo

yeah have to be careful if you r taking ssri's..Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors as i did ger Serotonin Syndrome a couple of years ago, high temp, poo through the eye of a needle, but the suden major agitation n uncoordinated typical motions is how i got diagnosed when telling GP that i didn't like the Tegretol cause it made me feel that way,,, whichbi was only just started on trial with back 8 year ago mixed with Epilim for mood stabilisation. well i obviously produced too much happy juice IE Serotonin Syndrome

Wow I didn't realise you could get too much serotonin! I suppose it's common sense....everything in balance! Is there anything you havnt had bud?
These mild serotonin boosters really are only meant for people NOT on medication and with mild or annoying amounts of depression. Hence why I know about it thru a 'natural therapist'! Anything serious should probably be dealt with by anti depressants......
For newbies I would certainly give natural methods a crack before jumping headlong into the pandoras box of today's heavy meds!

[sneaky]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

Wow I didn't realise you could get too much serotonin! I suppose it's common sense....everything in balance! Is there anything you havnt had bud?
These mild serotonin boosters really are only meant for people NOT on medication and with mild or annoying amounts of depression. Hence why I know about it thru a 'natural therapist'! Anything serious should probably be dealt with by anti depressants......
For newbies I would certainly give natural methods a crack before jumping headlong into the pandoras box of today's heavy meds!

hmm I wonder if Pristiq (desvenlafaxine) falls into the pandora's box of heavy meds? seem to have worked for me in the short few months I have been on them. google tells me the withdrawals are pretty severe though

[SYZ]

Originally Posted by DAZZLR

Hey guys we all may have a different chemical imbalance but i have been road testing some medication to take my mind off certain cravings...

Get down to the chemist and buy some THOMPSON'S Stress Manager tablets.

Recommended Highly!

It's pleasing that these work for you, but I'd just like to add a warning they include with products of this sort: Individuals who are using prescribed anti-depressants or suffer from bipolar depression should not use this product unless under supervision of a healthcare practitioner.

[Tui2]

Originally Posted by SYZ

It's pleasing that these work for you, but I'd just like to add a warning they include with products of this sort: Individuals who are using prescribed anti-depressants or suffer from bipolar depression should not use this product unless under supervision of a healthcare practitioner.

Serotonin Syndrome is life threatening., hope you've had a rew good days in a row lately, this is what i look forward to, , consecutive anx free days where it takes me that amount of time to realise they were, ah its goods to get older and except who you are , better if if could get acgood partner to except me more, boy she'd have to be strong minded, or really dim witted, either way her heart wiuld have to be devine i reckon, its sooo tiring trying to pin point every symptomatic solution when ya don't get a large time window to do it in before anothef hits n ta gotta control that making ya move on to its diagnostic solution, chasing my bloody tail

[buggerlugs]

Originally Posted by Trejo

russelw Where are youuuuu?? help! editor guru, erase my excess duplicates pleeeaasssseee

At 4.15am in the morn, I'd say he's probably in bed.............

[paule11]

One thing when I was stressed out that was good for me was acupuncture.Would go to my doctor and remember one time having a headache and it was gone in a few minutes used to have needles in my head and back worked well .cleared the mind Have not thought about that till I read this thread tonight

[SYZ]

Originally Posted by paule11

One thing when I was stressed out that was good for me was acupuncture. [...]

A few years ago my GP sent me to a Chinese-trained Aussie acupuncturist for my N-24 sleep dysfunction. I had 12 consultations; needles in back of knees, inside both wrists, and top of both feet.

Result? Absolute waste of time, although the acupuncturist did warn me that it may not work, and that he couldn't personally guarantee any positive results at all. Since then, I've done some detailed research about the efficacy of acupuncture, and the results were disappointing.

Briefly, according to the US National Council Against Health fraud (NCAHF):

NCAHF believes:

1. Acupuncture is an unproven modality of treatment;
2. Its theory and practice are based on primitive and fanciful concepts of health and disease that bear no relationship to present scientific knowledge;
3. Research during the past 20 years has failed to demonstrate that acupuncture is effective against any disease;
4. Perceived effects of acupuncture are probably due to a combination of expectation, suggestion, counter-irritation, operant conditioning, and other psychological mechanisms;
5. The use of acupuncture should be restricted to appropriate research settings;
6. Insurance companies should not be required by law to cover acupuncture treatment; and
7. Licensure of lay acupuncturists should be phased out.

[SYZ]

Another "natural" drug worth trialling is St. John's wort (Hypericum perforatum). A 2008 Cochrane review of 29 clinical trials, and a later 2015 meta-analysis review concluded that it has superior efficacy to placebo in treating depression; is as effective as standard antidepressant pharmaceuticals for treating depression; and has fewer adverse effects than other antidepressants.

The usual warnings about taking it alongside other prescription antidepressants apply.

[Tui2]

Originally Posted by SYZ

Another "natural" drug worth trialling is St. John's wort (Hypericum perforatum). A 2008 Cochrane review of 29 clinical trials, and a later 2015 meta-analysis review concluded that it has superior efficacy to placebo in treating depression; is as effective as standard antidepressant pharmaceuticals for treating depression; and has fewer adverse effects than other antidepressants.

The usual warnings about taking it alongside other prescription antidepressants apply.

yes he is correct people ..ie ssri, sorry to be repetitive

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by SYZ

A few years ago my GP sent me to a Chinese-trained Aussie acupuncturist for my N-24 sleep dysfunction. I had 12 consultations; needles in back of knees, inside both wrists, and top of both feet.

Result? Absolute waste of time, although the acupuncturist did warn me that it may not work, and that he couldn't personally guarantee any positive results at all. Since then, I've done some detailed research about the efficacy of acupuncture, and the results were disappointing.

Briefly, according to the US National Council Against Health fraud (NCAHF):

NCAHF believes:

1. Acupuncture is an unproven modality of treatment;
2. Its theory and practice are based on primitive and fanciful concepts of health and disease that bear no relationship to present scientific knowledge;
3. Research during the past 20 years has failed to demonstrate that acupuncture is effective against any disease;
4. Perceived effects of acupuncture are probably due to a combination of expectation, suggestion, counter-irritation, operant conditioning, and other psychological mechanisms;
5. The use of acupuncture should be restricted to appropriate research settings;
6. Insurance companies should not be required by law to cover acupuncture treatment; and
7. Licensure of lay acupuncturists should be phased out.

I've had acupuncture aswell over the years......for a few diff things......the only thing that made any diff at all was relief of muscle pain in my back! But in theory, the needles are only doing exactly what a good deep tissue massage does. They trigger the nerves to release tension in the muscles!

As you point out....so much of it is people mentally convincing themselves it's working. Not a fan of anything soo hit an miss!

[BLUEYBA]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

I've had acupuncture aswell over the years......for a few diff things......the only thing that made any diff at all was relief of muscle pain in my back! But in theory, the needles are only doing exactly what a good deep tissue massage does. They trigger the nerves to release tension in the muscles!

As you point out....so much of it is people mentally convincing themselves it's working. Not a fan of anything soo hit an miss!

The way I look at it is different things work for different people. So if acupuncture works for you then keep doing. If it does then move onto the next thing that might help until you find the right one. We're not all the same and react to different medications/treatments

[Road Games]

Sorry forgot pic's...

[Road Games]

Holy multi post batman

[Tui2]

Originally Posted by DAZZLR

Holy multi post batman

i have a mental disorder, , which is no excuse for being useless at computer interweb stuff thingy stuff, hope the editor gets here quick cause i don't know how to remove em,,, bloody tablet crappy pretend button that makes you keep pressing cause it's motion graphic doesn't respond.. but obviously still registers as being pressed, come on new lap top.. im getting excited, til i realise it will take me another 3 years to get tech savy

[Grega]

yeah have to be careful if you r taking ssri's..Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors as i did ger Serotonin Syndrome a couple of years ago, high temp, poo through the eye of a needle, but the suden major agitation n uncoordinated typical motions is how i got diagnosed......

i think i might have this problem also. i have a fan at work as i am so hot all the time its driving me nuts.