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We're going to lose a lot of the restaurants on Lygon Street in Carlton it seems, such a shame, that strip is a cultural icon of Melbourne. $120K PA rent, plus all their other fees, to have 4 people sitting outside after they can open? Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 10-09-2020 at 07:44 PM. |
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Which happens to be TODAY! (Off topic, I know... But have a good one Damo!)
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Anyway back on topic - apparently another planned protest for today according to rumors? Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 13-09-2020 at 10:42 AM. |
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Can't help but notice on every picture I see now of Melbourne just how clean the air is.
Melbourne is one of the filthiest cities for air pollution. I wonder how many more people are dying from air pollution compared to Covid... Probably about 3000 a year I reckon...(golly gee...who would have thought) https://soe.environment.gov.au/theme...-air-pollution But let's keep this lockdown thing going it's a gift that keeps on giving... . Last edited by zilo; 11-09-2020 at 01:43 AM. Reason: less is more more is less |
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Re the case numbers in Israel, the “high holy days” are around the corner so it’s well possible that cases diagnosed will spike accordingly and only taper off in January.
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Have you guys considered asking them why? If your food is taking longer, why not just politely enquire as to why? Deliveries, same deal.
Jumping to outrage is probably a natural response but where does it get you other than angry and stressed? I do it at times too but perhaps this year is as good as any for some self-reflection, previous generations seemed to be a little more laid back and accepting but we're all wound so tight these days that if there's even a slight inconvenience it's as if it's the end of the world and someone's head must roll for it. Just chill, this year is ****ed, we all know it, cogs are turning in the background that we never usually see and covid has thrown a spanner in the works and yeah some businesses are probably going to use that as an excuse for poor practises but there's not much you can do about it. Find a healthy outlet to vent it and defuse, taking aim at businesses and the dude or chick who works behind the counter/answers the phone probably isn't going to achieve much. |
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I think, despite the criticism of Victoria, keeping tight control over the citizenry until reaching zero community transmission has to be the goal to avoid a potential third / fourth wave. Some of those graphs look like restrictions were eased too early which either created a spike or a long period of 'stable' case numbers rather than a reduction. The COVID-normal world, assuming we get to zero community transmission, is going to look very different from a travel point of view as I have said before simply because some of the EU countries we looked at the other day opened borders to travellers and got themselves a pile of new cases. The reality is that if you have no cases in your community (like the NT/ACT/Tas) then 'importing' infected people is the only way you are going to get them. Thus, even if we manage to get to zero new cases as a country then we face the dilemma of how we deal with incoming visitors. Andrews was talking about mandatory (self funded) hotel quarantine the other day but I'm not sure whether he was referring to returning locals or visitors. I can't see too many people travelling to Australia to spend two weeks in I see some EU countries now require a health certificate before entry is allowed and while that is some help, I can see all sorts of ways that system will get abused. It's probably the biggest issue facing the travel and tourism industries and I think they need to get their collective heads together and come up with a system that has acceptance by most of the developed world. I'm not saying it has any immediate relevance to this situation but I'm thinking of the agreement struck in the 70's where planes arriving in Australia (and many other countries) undergo disinsection (not a typo). In some places this is still in-cabin but more often now it is external. Undoubtedly, once we get a vaccine, you'll be needing proof of it before getting a via to almost anywhere in exactly the same way as we all used to once upon a time (and still do for some places).
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Wasn’t the disinsection spraying thing on planes more to kill “critters” ? (mossies, ants etc)
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48 new cases for Australia and 7 deaths sees the CMR rise to 2.972% while active drop to 2,689. NSW recorded 1 cases; WA recorded 1, with the balance in Victoria. The Victorian State 14 day moving average is now 79.29 and the Metro average is 70.1 (thanks for the link).
4 new cases and zero deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.339% and active cases fall to 120. The UK had 2,919 new cases yesterday as the 2nd wave continues to spiral out of control. We know they are now not counting their mortalities by the WHO guidelines so we are going to ignore those figures. Just over 35k new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,208 deaths sees CMR rise to 2.981% and active cases drop to 38.3% with the raw numbers still dropping. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences. Other notable points: The three worst infected countries (USA, Brazil & India) now have more than half (54%) of all global cases and 44% of all reported deaths; India completes 52M& France10M tests; Asia passes 8M cases; Europerecords a new daily high of 44,006 new cases; Asia records a new daily high of 127,339 new cases; Angola (125), Greece (372), Palestine (745), Indonesia (3,861), Israel (4,429), Spain (10,764) and India (96,760) all recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.
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Hey Russ, would you mind adding the Vic regional 14 day average in your daily data for us regional folk? Would save me having to look at another website just to get one piece of data. I'm lazy
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Maybe include the differences between regional and rural as well.
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The problem with regional versus rural, is someone would need to collate that data into the respective categories, and I'm not aware of any site that does that at this point in time. And then you'd also need to define the difference between a rural and regional area.
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We'll continue the set of 'all of pandemic' graphs for specific countries with a look at the three EU majors (UK, France, Germany) as well as the African nations.
United Kingdom: it's no surprise that their first phase was severe and lasted until the end of May before the restrictions started to have an impact and numbers gradually declined until late July and they have been climbing again ever since. Germany: a similar pattern to the UK with a severe first phase that lasted until the end of April before declining until early July and they have been steadily climbing ever since albeit at much lower levels. France: also a similar pattern to the UK with a severe first phase that lasted until the middle of April before declining sharply until late July and they have been steadily climbing ever since at quite high levels. Now the African nations. Algeria: it looks like a reasonable mild first wave that lasted until late May followed by a about three weeks of decline before the second and more severe wave started and peaked in late July. Since then has decreased but not below the level of the first wave. Angola: almost no cases recorded through until early June but since then it has steadily increased and they recorded their highest daily case numbers yesterday so there is probably still more to come. Egypt: similar again with low cases numbers recorded through until late April but since it then rapidly increased to a peak in late June after which it rapidly decreased and has just started to creep up again this last few weeks. Ethiopia: similar again with low cases numbers recorded through until late May but since it then their have been three distinct cluster spikes - a small one in June, a larger one in mid-July to mid-August and the largest one in the latter half of August which has only started to decline this month but case numbers remain higher than in the second spike. Ivory Coast: similar again with low cases numbers recorded through until late May before a big spike that lasted until the latter part of July and despite being in decline since then it has started to increase again this last week or so. Kenya: similar again with low cases numbers recorded through until late May but with a gradual climb to a peak in late July and case numbers have been pretty much in decline since then. Libya: a very late start with almost no cases until June and even then cases numbers remained until early July but they have climbed quite steeply since then and they recorded their highest case numbers this last week. Madagascar: almost identical to Libya initially with a very late start until early July when case numbers climbed quite steeply to peak in the third week of July before declining since and they seem to have stabilised at reasonably low levels although not at June numbers. Mauritania: almost no cases until early June when case numbers climbed quite steeply to peak to a peak at the end of June before declining until early August when they have gradually started to climb again. Morocco: very low case numbers until a small spike mid-June which looked to be contained quite quickly but from late July case numbers have soared with their highest totals recorded during this last week. South Africa: it looks like only a single, albeit lengthy, wave with a gradual rise to a late July peak before a reasonably steep (but inconsistent) decline and it's now at similar levels to those in late May. Tunisia: you could possibly call the March-April cases a first wave although at a very low level and it appeared to be well under control until mid August when numbers ramped up significantly and they continue to do so with the highest daily total only a couple of days ago.
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Good charts Russell, interesting to note the differing profiles, 1st v 2nd etc. |
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Hey Russell is there any reliable data coming out of China to see how they are faring.
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China is still claiming the odd case or so and even fewer deaths but I don't think anyone would call it reliable by a long stretch.
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I wanted to find another country that is (a) an island, and (b) has a similar population as Australia to see how they have faired with COVID to compare.
Sri Lanka is what I came across, which has a similar population (21.5M), all living in an island the size of Tasmania!! I thought they'd be in serious trouble given they have such a large population living in such a small area. Nope. I was very wrong. SL have so far had just over 3'000 cases and only 12 deaths! Yes, 12 deaths. I read that they went the way of somewhat of an elimination strategy very early into the pandemic, and the entire country was under full lockdown + curfew from 20th March. The lockdown lasted 52 days only. They built 45 all new quarantine centres, which to date has quarantined almost 3'500 returning locals and visiting tourists. It was very strict quarantine conditions and they did not muck around with security, having the army (fully armed) on guard duties. Just makes you wonder if a 3rd world country like Sri Lanka with a similar size population to us, all living on an island the size of Tasmania can beat this virus, how the hell did our 1st world country get it so wrong?? I'd like to to full comparison report between the two countries strategies and how they managed beat this thing compared to us. But I cannot find enough details. Maybe Russell has more info/detail on this? |
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Good to see a downward trend in Vic which we like to see considering the lockdown.
Hard to believe that we're nearing nearly 30k cases and 800 deaths now considering we almost had it sorted. Almost :( |
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Looks like another protest on for the weekend - this one has an interesting twist though
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I saw some 'Mericans being interviewed today that think it is all engineered and it is all a hoax.
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These days there is plenty of TP. Also **** loads of sanitiser and masks at the local Woolies. The masks are all made in China.
Literally 3 different brands and they were all marked PRC. I went to Bunnings the other day and heaps too. Even the ones in my cupboard that mum bought are PRC. Keeping some safe just in case I need them in a pinch and the stocks get cleared out. I know the army got involved in the mask making. I'm guessing they are keeping that stock for the medical profession? |
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