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19-10-2017, 09:24 PM | #31 | |||
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I was also taught to make sure all lanes were clear when entering a multilane road or highway but nobody seems to do that these days; you're lucky if they even check the curb-side lane is clear before they pull out.
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19-10-2017, 10:01 PM | #32 | |||
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Yep, three people got incinerated in Perth going back many years ago because the driver did this. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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20-10-2017, 09:13 AM | #33 | ||
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My partner failed his p test first time, for "severe braking".
Yup, he slammed on his brakes to avoid being cleaned up by a bus that ran a red light. There used to be a motorbike tester at Penrith, she would never pass anyone first go, and was upfront about it, when anyone senior was not in earshot. Funnily enough I hear she no longer has a job there
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20-10-2017, 09:57 AM | #34 | ||
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That makes me laugh. When I got my bike license the very last part of the test was a slalom that set you up to approach a line at a certain speed at which point you had to do an emergency stop. I stopped in about 2/3rds the distance I was "supposed to".
She told me I started braking too soon. I told her I'm really good on the brakes. She said nobody is that good. Go around and do it again. So I did. She watched me closely and I stopped in the same distance again. No sliding or lost traction. She agreed, Okay, you passed. |
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20-10-2017, 12:55 PM | #35 | ||
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I believe lots of kids coming up to the age of thinking about a drivers license struggle with road awareness / spacial awareness / natural flow of traffic / road rules, etc is because, unlike many of us, they haven't spent their childhood on a pushbike.
All the things you learn and adapt to while riding around on the streets all those years help with your transition to a car. Another thing that many kids are not absorbing is how their parents drive while sitting in the car as a passenger. As a kid I used to watch dad change gears, used to see how he would merge into lanes, watch him give way, etc. Now kids aren't even looking out the windows... DVD players in headrests a meter from their faces, phones and tablets on their laps. They are not learning about the awareness they need once they get to driving age because they are not naturally absorbing what goes on. IMO |
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20-10-2017, 01:26 PM | #36 | ||
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Re kids: When we are in the car, I ask my 9 and 12 year old girls about driving to get them to think about what is involved and what is important while driving.
Eg. "Why didn't I go then?" Or "Tell me when you think it is safe to go." |
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20-10-2017, 02:11 PM | #37 | |||
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I know you wouldn’t think it when you’re on the road but driving is a serious business and softening testing procedures can only have a negative effect and a population already filled with lazy and discourteous drivers doesn't need relaxed easy to pass tests. As harsh as it may appear your daughter will long remember her error due to failing, much more so then by being given a lecture. Last week in country NSW a friend’s granddaughter didn’t even get the chance to test as the tester refused because the vehicle had a brake light not working and all her tears didn’t change the fact she was forced to reschedule so the light could be fixed first. A Cop would have most likely given a warning but an exam tester doesn’t nor would it be passed at a rego check. . |
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20-10-2017, 03:15 PM | #38 | |||
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Having to do a test in another country when I'd only passed mine 3 years earlier in Scotland was a bit of a ****er
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21-10-2017, 12:12 AM | #39 | |||||
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https://www.slp.wa.gov.au/pco/prod/filestore.nsf/FileURL/mrdoc_37162.htm/$FILE/Road%20Traffic%20Code%202000%20-%20%5B05-e0-00%5D.html?OpenElement Quote:
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I guess I learned to drive in era when semaphore indicators that often stuck inside their pillar recess were still out there on cars, front indicator lights were not on all cars that had moved onto tail-light indicators and there was always chance that the car in the far lane was about to change into the curb-side lane you planned to enter.
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21-10-2017, 01:27 AM | #40 | ||
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I remember my driving instructor having a sleep on the way back home not long after going nuts on me for rolling a stop sign after what was a pretty decent test.
I think that is a pretty big endorsement of my skill or maybe he was just really too tired not to care |
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22-10-2017, 09:49 AM | #42 | ||
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Book in a third test a day or 2 after the second one, just incase she fails again.
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22-10-2017, 10:18 AM | #43 | ||
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I remember doing my P's test at the Ryde rta and the instructor tried 2 tricks on me. The first one was a 3 point turn in a lane way that was not wide enough for 2 cars to pass and the other was choosing the most expensive car possible to do a reverse parallel park behind. On the drive back I asked how I went in the 3 point turn as it took 7 points because it was too tight for the car. Full marks he tells me. It was his stress test to see if I'd panic.
I actually don't consider his stress test a dog act because in the real world driving on your own how you react when the unknown happens is really important. My sister didn't get her p plates till she was 25 and is a very anxious person. Needless to say she has let her licence expire and does not drive anymore because she can't handle the random acts of others. |
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23-10-2017, 10:27 AM | #44 | ||
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Far far to easy to get a licence in this country. They need to get serious
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23-10-2017, 10:49 AM | #45 | |||
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The people that slow down at every opportunity really annoy me. It interrupts the flow of traffic and seems to result in slow mental processing which I personally think contributes to accidents. How many of you live in Sydney and have seen Brisbane drivers? They/we drive like 80 year olds with bad eyesight and our peak hour traffic is horrendous as a result. A couple years ago I went to Sydney for work and had a hire car, and it was awesome. Traffic was just go go go, not due to speeding, just due to everyone being aware of their place in the flow and I didn't see a single collision or roadrage incident. Brisbane people can't drive for crap - sorry not sorry! |
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23-10-2017, 02:33 PM | #46 | ||
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You want to sit an hc truck exam and see what they say about scanning/situational awareness.
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23-10-2017, 04:48 PM | #47 | |||
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1, Just drove around the block. Licence. 2, Get some eggs from the store. Licence. 3, Get the Newspaper. Licence.
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23-10-2017, 05:03 PM | #48 | ||
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I found out today one of the apprentices at work finally got his p plates after 7 attempts. I worry about his well being using a drill let alone behind the wheel of a car. My boss is probably going to tear him a new one because he has an auto only licence and is just as useful as before as he can't be the gofer as all our cars in the field are manuals.
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23-10-2017, 08:45 PM | #49 | |||
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Unfortunately the boss doesn’t own the licence, the apprentice does! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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23-10-2017, 09:43 PM | #50 | ||
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I rode my bike to the tester to get my bike licence (3 months before I could get a car licence)
Had to go and get his salad roll for lunch Upon return licence granted. I'm still here today, couldn't have been too wrong. Increasing complexity is all part of the "service industry" BS, now most manufacturing in the country is gone. It seems if one Can't add value - then add repeat tasks of no value ......... Last edited by 383hq; 23-10-2017 at 09:48 PM. |
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23-10-2017, 09:46 PM | #51 | ||
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23-10-2017, 09:51 PM | #52 | |||
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Boss should have been a forward thinker and could’ve seen something like this coming. He can get an auto Yaris or similar and write it off against tax if having a gopher is so important but the poor apprentice will probably get the sack. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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23-10-2017, 10:02 PM | #53 | |||
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23-10-2017, 10:25 PM | #54 | ||
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45 kph through that intersection should be an instant fail any day of the week.
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24-10-2017, 08:32 AM | #55 | ||
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Daughter was talking to a work mate who failed their test as well..... no prizes for guessing which intersection it was?
Manager at the transport dep. found us a cancellation, and the 4 week wait for the re-test is now in 3 more days, nice !!! |
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24-10-2017, 09:31 AM | #56 | |||
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24-10-2017, 05:37 PM | #57 | |||
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Sounds like the boss should’ve put a bit more time and effort into his recruitment process to me! He hired him and now he’s stuck with Mr Potato Head Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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24-10-2017, 05:56 PM | #58 | |||
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25-10-2017, 02:23 PM | #59 | ||
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Have a whip round and get potatohead a bicycle with a basket, that'll keep him busy and out of your way.
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25-10-2017, 03:49 PM | #60 | |||
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For traffic to be impeded by people who slow down at every opportunity it would have to be a busy road which would also have right of way. Looking at the photo posted, the OP’s daughter was in a residential area where slowing down would have little to no effect on traffic flow. I would expect that the tester would want the learner driver to show they looked left and right by turning their head and therefore increasing their peripheral vision range and not start off their driving life with bad habits. Which part of Sydney were you driving in that was so awesome where the traffic was go, go, go due to everyone being aware of their place in the flow. Major roads in Sydney have been gridlocked for years. No road rage in Sydney, hehehehe . |
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