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No respect. You do not know what an individual is capable of when they are pushed do you. Also I think crushing a "hoons" car will only effect people like me who already understand their obligations anyway. They will not effect the harden hoon. They will just trash $1000 VN Commodores or EA Falcons instead. |
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Drifting in a magna =\
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Fev i agree 100%
I never will agree with crushing of cars,not when the penalty for 1 bloke is a $300 corona and for me a 30,000+ Lexus, or the bloke with a 600,000K lambo. its the equivalent of crushing your house because you have a pill press inside? yes you did a crime in the house but why crush the house? its don't nothing. it is a bandaid reaction to a problem that is smashed about by media to sell more papers, HOONING is now speeding, excessive noise and smoke, appearing to accelerate quickly 'time trialing' they call it in qld amongst alot of other nit picky things, all of which have the lowest % of carnage to our road toll, and compared to inattention it hardly even registers, so tell me, why focus so much on it? or is it just because its half easy to police and the majority of people can just keep going on in their daily lives failing to indicate, merging incorrectly and being genuinely inattentive killing more people in 1 state than hooning does in all of them, but that's OK... because someone isn't doing a skid. priorities and focus is all wrong. if your busted for hooning/excessive speed, then you go through a program to educate you while your licance less, visit the morgue, defensive driver training and visit the ICU, by not educating people all your going to do is have alot of angry people out there with government/police and alot more people doing runners, becasue trust me, if I knew this time was going to be a crushing of the car then I wouldnt be stopping, not when at this point in time the consequence happens before your court hearing, at present you get your car taken at the point of interception and that is right wrong or otherwise... ITS the ONLY law i know of where the punishment comes before a conviction? WTF. take the car after the conviction for the penalty time allocated by the court if you want to make it a JUST law not the BS we have currently.
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My favourite part is of the whole news article is the last line...
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A court could decide it if needs be. Whatsmore, there are serial offenders and cars well known to police that constantly are seen doing the aforementioned sort of thing, so it would be a bit of a no brainer.
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I really don't have anything to say in regards to this but obviously she thought she was invincible after reading about the Mill Park acco days ago.
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Seems to me that the originating factor in this thread is that a seventeen year old girl getting drunk, stealing her mothers vehicle and then getting caught by the police.
Responsibility for a person's poor decison making abilities cannot in my view be just thrown onto the Government's or onto Police on this occasion. The lack of parental supervision and discipline is in my view the sole cause of this girl's actions. |
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why is it that people think the only way to teach children consequences is to belt them, there is alternatives allow me to elaborate:
child misbehaves in some fashion - lets say spills a drink on the lounge, you can belt said child (consequence) or you can give child only water to drink for the rest of the day as they can't be trusted with drinks? option #2 nobody hits anybody which teaches them that violence doesn't solve problems and also that the action of spilling the drink bears consequence. Belting children teaches them to lash out and attack those that challenge them. hm escalating teen violence under the influence who would have thought..
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Those who have been belted have learned.
Those given water will live on water and keep spilling. Why? No consequence. Not responsibility. No fear. Then they drive as they please and kill others.
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I myself think that if the government wants to get serious about road safety they have to actually put something into the education of the kids. Not just when they are at the age to learn to drive but when they are at school. I know when I was at school ( I know, a long time ago) we had a driver education program. The car was donated by a local business and maintained by the by a local service station. All students that were at the age of getting a learners permit went through the program. It was a good tool for teaching you what you could expect once you got your licence and got out on the road by yourself. There was a lot more to it than jumping in with mum or dad and diving to the shops or down the highway on holidays, as happens now. Just to get the hours needed. It should they should be made to go through the program that offenders are made to do. Where they are shown footage from accidents and the possible consequences of your actions if you decide to drive like a moron and have an accident. Not only to yourself but to other people and their families. But alas the government will not see fit to do something like this as it will cost them money and they have not yet woken up to the fact that no matter how hard you want to punish people, there are always going to be the ones that continue to do it. But maybe with some proper education they MAY just wake up and think before they do. |
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being a spray painter i have at times when my 2 kids were 16 or 17 taken them to work to show them what speed and drink driving can do and showed them the insides of the cars as well ,,not harsh i dont think,my son told me he remembers some of the cars ,,
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The information that has been put and discussed is relevant, but also consider that not every teenager who get's behind the wheel immediately turns into a speeeding, drunken hoon moron.
Unfortunately, a small minority become a statistic that then becomes a news item. Media will tend to beat up on every unfortunate news event and milk the matter infinitumm - no media mention of the number of adult DUI's being arrested and placed on the front page making headlines last night, only a news item that links a previous story. Politics then become involved and the whole thing then feeds upon itself. |
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Ahh Colac............
After spending 10 weeks working there and seeing the best & worst of the local population, it's no different to all the other country towns i've worked at. (they probably live in the area of town known as "The Bronx") No fear, respect or responsibility is what it amounts to. |
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How is that a solution maybe when people go for there license they should do it drunk so there quailified drunk drivers. Because im pretty sure a seventeen year old would be well aware that you should not drink and drive . Personally i think the strap would be much more a effective a few years earlier when she done something else she was not supposed to do , it would make her think twice before she grabbed those keys . |
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You forgot the bit when the child screams , throws a fit a cries for the next 3 hours because you wont give it the juice it wants . |
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I'm likely in a tiny minority here, but I can't believe anyone can condone the crushing/selling/confiscating of anyone's car by the state - hoon or otherwise.
By analogy, it's like the state taking your home because you refuse to mow the lawn. Why don't they crush/sell the unroadworthy cars? They're deathtraps waiting to happen. But, of course, this won't get the 30 second soundbite that the police and pollies need to make Joe and Jane Public think they're doing something. There are already laws in place to deal with dangerous/reckless driving, including jail time for the severest cases. It will simply encourage hooning in crappy bombs that, of any car on the road, are likely least able to handle and recover if something goes wrong. If their $300 s*box gets crushed... meh, it was good while it lasted, right? |
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Well read this, sweetheart. If you don’t understand it, ask a grown up to explain it for you. http://www.justice.vic.gov.au/wps/wc...-+Hoon+Driving Quote:
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It's not the car who is doing something illegal it's the driver, so if it was implemented that the hoons own personal car would be impounded, even if he was driving someone elses, it may make him/her think twice? But ofcourse for this to work the hoon would actually have to own a car. Wait, what am I saying.. hoons don't think!! |
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