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Old 10-11-2007, 07:15 PM   #31
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Old 10-11-2007, 07:24 PM   #32
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I notice you say you think you were doing 80kmhr?? Only chance you have of getting out of it is if you weren't speeding.. And seeing as it will be your word against the truck driver it could be interesting.. I hope for your sake you went seeking legal help straight after the accident..

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Old 10-11-2007, 08:00 PM   #33
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What was the speed limit of the road you were traveling on? Important piece of info that.

Not being able to afford new tires is no excuse I'm sorry. Like others have said, accept the loss, cop whatever penalty is given because it sounds like you deserve it (no offence) but more importantly, learn a lesson.

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Old 10-11-2007, 08:02 PM   #34
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ok......if the tyres were no good, and you've only had the car a few weeks, was it registered and do you have a roadworthy certificate?........ is that why you're going to be walking?

if you have a roadworthy certificate, and the tyres are as bad as you say they were, the RWC tester needs his behind kicked, but if they were deemed safe by the tester and the car does have a RWC, you dont have a leg to stand on
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:48 PM   #35
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there is still info missing.

the info given is not enough to go to court. if it was a 80 zone and he hit a truck pulling out of a driveway then it doesn't matter what tyres are on the car as long as there is minimum tread on them!

obviously there is some other reason why he is going to court and it has nothing to do with hitting a truck.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:39 PM   #36
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ok......if the tyres were no good, and you've only had the car a few weeks, was it registered and do you have a roadworthy certificate?........ is that why you're going to be walking?

if you have a roadworthy certificate, and the tyres are as bad as you say they were, the RWC tester needs his behind kicked, but if they were deemed safe by the tester and the car does have a RWC, you dont have a leg to stand on
Thats what i was thinking, because a RWC is valid for 28 days, and if the tyres were shagged when it went through roady, you might have something...
As for whoever asked what charges, Im pretty sure in ANY traffic accident you get charged with careless driving...
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:51 PM   #37
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I'd like to know the FULL story. If as he says the truck came out of the driveway,I can't see as to why he is even going to court. As the driver of the truck has not entered a roadway with safety.
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Old 11-11-2007, 01:30 AM   #38
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Mate...Regardless of the quality of the tyres...as long as you were not speeding, it should be the trucks fault, as he did not give way when entering traffic. If you were speeding then part of the fault may be given to you. 18m of skid marks from 80kph can still leave you going fast enough to write off a skyline ( especially when hitting a solid object). It doesn't take much speed to write a car off when hitting a solid rear end of a truck!

If your tyres aren't roadworthy then you may be partially to blame as well.

If your tyres are matching and roadworthy, and you were not speeding then I would be fighting to not lose your licence from what you have told us.
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Old 11-11-2007, 01:47 AM   #39
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if you have a roadworthy certificate, and the tyres are as bad as you say they were, the RWC tester needs his behind kicked, but if they were deemed safe by the tester and the car does have a RWC, you dont have a leg to stand on
Are you talking about a pink slip?

I don't know where he is but if its in NSW the car could have passed rego with decent tyres and then been sold to him at a later date with unroadworthy tyres. If thats the case its not really the mechanic that passed it for rego's fault.
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Old 11-11-2007, 02:51 AM   #40
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i know for some things you can get a work licence in QLD that allow you to travel to and from work,not sure about other states.
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Old 11-11-2007, 03:21 AM   #41
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Mate........time to get yourself a pushy and work off some meat pies ;) Where there's a will there's a way.

I lost my licence for 2 months and rode my bike 35km to work...one way.

Definitely agree that it can sometimes work in your favour to be honest with the judge and they may throw you a leniency ticket for being honest and showing true remorse instead of trying to wangle out using lame excuses........but I don't know what happended so can't comment too much. The prior suspension will hurt though.

Any answers to the above questions? Speedzone? Charges laid? Scenario?

Was your Skyline insured?
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Old 11-11-2007, 08:49 AM   #42
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im a welder by trade and since i cant get to work by public transport so early i cant do my job and im having trouble finding other jobs in the same field
With all due respect I am find it hard to believe that a welder is having trouble finding a job they are in very high demand at the moment. Sorry to add that in but I thought it a bit different from "how fast you were really going" and "what was the speed limit". Sounds like you're screwed but get some legals though, my son paid a grand and saved his a$$ from 12 months of walking. Love your lack of punctuation !!!
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:41 AM   #43
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I'd like to know the FULL story. If as he says the truck came out of the driveway,I can't see as to why he is even going to court. As the driver of the truck has not entered a roadway with safety.
I'am confused as well. The truck is in the wrong pulling out onto a road from a driveway even if you are a bit over the speed limit you should only cop a speeding fine unless your well over the speed limit or is more to what you have let on.
If you have insurance it should cover the big costs with only a insurance penalty surcharge.

I personally think blaming the tyres is a poor excuse.
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:23 AM   #44
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What I would like to know is : WHO is wanting you to go to court?
Are you being charged or is this the insurance company of the truck or your insurance comapny?

The only thing I can see is it is the Trucks insurance comapny trying to get an apportionment of blame to you, because on the surface it looks like a clear cut failure to give way on the trucks part.

I imagine they are tring to say due to circumstances they are not 100% liable and getting a court to maybe appoint a 70/30 split or something like that.
By saying your speed and driving amount to contributing negligence.

By getting an apportionment it lowers thier liabilty and increases yours.

How it works is this.

Your damage + Thier Damage
They then spilt that figure to the approriate to the awarded apportion.
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:06 PM   #45
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no its the cops I'm being charged with driving with out due care the guy i hit isn't going to touch me because he did the same thing so some 1 else the week before
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:40 PM   #46
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so what was the speed limit on that road?... you don't seem to be telling the full story.. as many people have already said...

how about you recontruct the incident for us?... tell us what happened.. and how it happened?.. you might find when people know the full story... they are more likely to be able to assist you with your enquiries...
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Old 11-11-2007, 01:03 PM   #47
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ok i came around a corner at about 30 because the corner is and you cant take it fast then when up the road a truck pulled out of a drive way infront of me i hit the front of the truck thats it the reason i think im going to get killed in court is that i have had 8 other tickets and 2 license suspensions in the pass 2 years
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Old 11-11-2007, 01:18 PM   #48
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so you were going 30 around a corner and sped up to 80, whereby you hit the truck?

I am guessing residential area, 50km/hr limit. If it has 30 recommended corners it isn't an 80 zone.
20-30km/hr over. Then how was the truck meant to judge properly whether they could pull out or not.

Yep driving without due care sounds about right.
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Old 11-11-2007, 01:27 PM   #49
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ok i came around a corner at about 30 because the corner is and you cant take it fast then when up the road a truck pulled out of a drive way infront of me i hit the front of the truck thats it the reason i think im going to get killed in court is that i have had 8 other tickets and 2 license suspensions in the pass 2 years
Sounds like you should not not have a licence anyway..
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This surprised me, have a look at these sites (and there are others). They are only guesstimates.
http://www.e-z.net/~ts/speedch.htm
http://www.harristechnical.com/skid33.htm
On a level concrete road 18m skidmarks seem to indicate a speed of around 60kmh.

As a disclaimer some of the commonly accepted braking distances (like those in The Bosch Book) look way too long. They claim 320m to stop from 200kmh (excluding driver reaction time). The stopping distances for some of the sporty cars quoted in the German rag Auto Motor & Sport easily beat this. I can easily knock off 100kmh when braking at or after the 100m mark from close to 200kmh when I am on a race track in my road car with R-spec tyres.
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ok i came around a corner at about 30 because the corner is and you cant take it fast then when up the road a truck pulled out of a drive way infront of me i hit the front of the truck thats it the reason i think im going to get killed in court is that i have had 8 other tickets and 2 license suspensions in the pass 2 years
8 infringements and 2 suspensions in 2 years??!! how long have you held a licence? Sounds like something isnt getting through.. id say 12 months is is light on given your recent form..



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Sounds like you should not not have a licence anyway..
Yeah I'd agree with that.

It'd all depend on what the speed limit was because if you weren't excessively speeding the truck failed to give way pulling out of the driveway but if it was a 50 - 60 zone I don't think you'll have a leg to stand on
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over 7g so far and after seeing my family and friend and my mum in tears i have learnt my lesson im not after sympathy i deserved to be punished
Your poor mum you must be giving her absolute heartache.When this drama is over you really want to take a step back and look at what your actions are doing to those that care about you.

My younger brother would not learn his lesson with being caught speeding and drink driving and with a suspended licence 5 times in 2 years also nearly killing himself and others. The judge and rightly so gave him a 6 months stint in Glenn Innes correctional and 22 years loss of licence which he still appealling against and after that 2 years of probation. So if your not going to learn now it could be a bleak future for being able to legally drive on public roads
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Old 11-11-2007, 07:21 PM   #55
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two, possible 3 things hard aginst you ATM.
1) you were driving a skyline, not being mean here, but it all comes down to one word, Stereotype.
2) + your driving history tells a thousand stories.
3) Age ?? how old are you??

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Do you even have insurance???
It seems you do really need to ride a push bike on the road for 12mths, another road users perspecitive might do you some good.
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Old 11-11-2007, 07:35 PM   #56
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ok i came around a corner at about 30 because the corner is and you cant take it fast then when up the road a truck pulled out of a drive way infront of me i hit the front of the truck thats it the reason i think im going to get killed in court is that i have had 8 other tickets and 2 license suspensions in the pass 2 years
In that case, I think it would be better for all the other road users that you are suspended. 8 tickets and 2 suspensions in 2 years?!
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