Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 26-11-2007, 05:28 PM   #31
ILLaViTaR
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
ILLaViTaR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,699
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unco
you're saying that a mechanic's time diagnosing a problem is worth $0 in your books. with that attitude it's no wonder people like you can't find a good mechanic. good luck finding someone who is interested in working on your car when you tell them that their time is worth nothing to you. :

as for MR 7 posts in a row, how about posting your problem, or did you just start this thread to stir.
They're running a business and if they can't fix the problem then some poor man who just wants his car fixed will have to pay $200 in labour.

A problem happens for a reason and it's up to a mechanic to find it.
If he can't find it it's his fault not the owner of the car.

So why should the car owner pay out?
__________________
EB II 1992 Fairmont - koni reds, wade 977b, 2.5inch/4480's and much more to come!
ILLaViTaR is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 26-11-2007, 05:29 PM   #32
Polyal
Virtuous Bogan (TM)
Donating Member2
 
Polyal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TAS
Posts: 27,540
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ILLaViTaR
They're running a business and if they can't fix the problem then some poor man who just wants his car fixed will have to pay $200 in labour.

A problem happens for a reason and it's up to a mechanic to find it.
If he can't find it it's his fault not the owner of the car.

So why should the car owner pay out?
Time = Money, simple as that. A friend had an engineer come over to just look at the house for an extension. 30mins = $500

So your car has what you call a major problem as its been at another guy for 2 days. Fords are not that complicated but the issues a pretty varied.

Ever thought about paying a little extra and taking it to a Ford Dealer?
__________________
  • 2023 Mitsubishi Triton
  • 2017 Mitsubishi Pajero Sport
  • 2003 CL7 Honda Accord Euro R (JDM) - K20A 6MT
  • 1999 Lexus IS200 - 1G-FE Turbo 6MT
  • 1973 ZF Ford Fairlane
Polyal is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 26-11-2007, 05:55 PM   #33
olfella
Cranky old bastard
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 9,393
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Polyal
Time = Money, simple as that. A friend had an engineer come over to just look at the house for an extension. 30mins = $500

So your car has what you call a major problem as its been at another guy for 2 days. Fords are not that complicated but the issues a pretty varied.

Ever thought about paying a little extra and taking it to a Ford Dealer?
Have you had a read of the thread about Ford dealers??.. well worth it. You may think you are paying extra bucks by paying a so called expert, but it sure aint the case in practice.
olfella is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 26-11-2007, 06:08 PM   #34
olfella
Cranky old bastard
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 9,393
Default

Bit of story kiddies... a long time ago (in the'80's, relevent because we will mention dollars later) I was a boiler inspector and happened to be at a dentist surgery when he had a technician over to look at his non-functioning autoclave (steriliser/pressure cooker). This tech was caught by the dentist reading a book, so he asked the question 'wadda ya doin'? The tech replied quite proudly, I am reading the manual so I can fix your autoclave. The dentist quickly responded with 'well f&#* off and come back when you know how. I am not a training facility and paying you $90 bucks an hour to learn'.

So if we go back to the doctor comparison as raised previously, sure a doctor traeats both male and female... but if he gets out of his area of knowledge and experience, he refers onto a specialist. do we all get my drift?
olfella is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 26-11-2007, 06:32 PM   #35
Casablanca
carburettor
 
Casablanca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: your mums house
Posts: 260
Default

ok then mr nc fairlane a good mechanic in the gold coast region is midas in beenleigh they are pretty good got them to work on a few cars for me.

btw it sounds like its your fuel pump common issue
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by irlewy86
HSV GTSR..... $125,000
HSV Team shirt..... $65
Tank of Fuel....$75
Being cornered by a 17 year old bogan with 2 kids and no teeth telling you how much she loves HSV's..... Priceless
Casablanca is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 26-11-2007, 06:46 PM   #36
Justin@
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Melton, vic
Posts: 1,262
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ILLaViTaR
They're running a business and if they can't fix the problem then some poor man who just wants his car fixed will have to pay $200 in labour.

A problem happens for a reason and it's up to a mechanic to find it.
If he can't find it it's his fault not the owner of the car.

So why should the car owner pay out?
If he spends time on a car finding the prob the yes he should get paid....if he has to spend time on YOUR car finding a prob he should get paid double......
Justin@ is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 26-11-2007, 06:49 PM   #37
MR NC FAIRLANE
GO HARD
 
MR NC FAIRLANE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 73
Default

Thanks olfella i cant believe the replys i am getting its as if i have lined them all up and and verbally abused them.
MR NC FAIRLANE is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 26-11-2007, 06:50 PM   #38
MR NC FAIRLANE
GO HARD
 
MR NC FAIRLANE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 73
Default

Thanks casablanka now how hard was that?
MR NC FAIRLANE is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 26-11-2007, 06:56 PM   #39
VIBEBA
huh???
 
VIBEBA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Diggers
Posts: 427
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ILLaViTaR
Fair enough, but we customers shouldn't have to pay you if the problem isn't fixed.
Time isnt free these day's mate and i dont think any mechanic would want to give up time and not get paid for it when they could work on a paying customers car..
Unless you wanted the new 1st year apprentice or the 14 year old work experience kid working on your car...
__________________

VIBEBA is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 26-11-2007, 07:16 PM   #40
Unco
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Unco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Assens, Denmark
Posts: 622
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MR NC FAIRLANE
Thanks olfella i cant believe the replys i am getting its as if i have lined them all up and and verbally abused them.
i have a good mechanic that i take my car to when i can't be bothered doing the work myself (he's in beenleigh and i'm in north ipswich) i also know of another mechanic who is really good in the gold coast area but i will not give you either of their contact details as i appreciate the work that they do and i wouldn't want someone with your attitude giving them grief.

it's all about how you communicate to people. you come here calling people in the trade 'impostors' and saying that they don't know what they're talking about and you really expect a flood of support? you really have to think about the way you refer to people in the trade, and life in general, for that matter. be understanding and courteous and you'll get a lot further. you should try it some time.

also, red_hotxr6, do you honestly think that they guy who fixed your xf after 1 drive really knows every single little thing about every single car out there? you simply came across someone who was familiar with the problem. do you think it's possible that there are certain problems that the other mechanics could fix quicker than the last guy?
Unco is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 26-11-2007, 08:23 PM   #41
MR NC FAIRLANE
GO HARD
 
MR NC FAIRLANE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 73
Default

Learn to read for a start i called 1 person an imposter the guy that couldn't diagnose my car.
MR NC FAIRLANE is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 26-11-2007, 08:56 PM   #42
KenW
spanner spinner
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: south west vic
Posts: 38
Default

I am a mechanic and up until recently worked at a dealership . I left after getting sick and tired of people not trusting that we were doing or people wanting to fix it but don't spend any money we are doing the best we can with the info( usually wrong) that they supply so don't lump us all as crap, it goes both ways.
btw i think you 'll find that your reg is blocked
KenW is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 26-11-2007, 09:32 PM   #43
EDXR65SPEED
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Geelong
Posts: 183
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KenW
I am a mechanic and up until recently worked at a dealership . I left after getting sick and tired of people not trusting that we were doing or people wanting to fix it but don't spend any money we are doing the best we can with the info( usually wrong) that they supply so don't lump us all as crap, it goes both ways.

I have worked at a dealer for almost 6 years.
I just come back from a 2 month break with the defence force.
I agree with KenW.
We get an incomplete fault description that has been quickly written down by the service advisor as the customer chose not to tell them over the phone when it was booked in or bothered to ring in and add the issue to the repair order prior to coming in. Anyway, then the owner gets the price of the repairs and takes the cheap (not fully repaired) way out. When the fault comes back its the dealers fault!
EDXR65SPEED is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 26-11-2007, 10:10 PM   #44
olfella
Cranky old bastard
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 9,393
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EDXR65SPEED
I have worked at a dealer for almost 6 years.
I just come back from a 2 month break with the defence force.
I agree with KenW.
We get an incomplete fault description that has been quickly written down by the service advisor as the customer chose not to tell them over the phone when it was booked in or bothered to ring in and add the issue to the repair order prior to coming in. Anyway, then the owner gets the price of the repairs and takes the cheap (not fully repaired) way out. When the fault comes back its the dealers fault!
I had aproblem with my a/c not clicking in. Booked in for one day, at the DEALER. Left the car and when I went to pick it up was told it had a serious electrical problem and they would need the car for at least two days 'next week'. I did my usual dance that you blokes have know doubt seen performed before by others, and left - after booking it in. On the way home I received a phone call to come back. When I returned they hooked it up to the computor and found it was blocked out at a pressure switch located on the compressor. This was cleared and the a/c was working again. Amazing simply amazing. Just to make sure they put the gauges on and said the pressure was fluctuating and I needed a new acumulator. So booked in to have this done at another time - cost $180 of which Ford paid an extra 60% (more special dancing needed). Now how does an accumulator on a three year old car become blocked?? Surely they could have hooked the car up to the computor in the first place? Another two occasion's they put the wrong oil in!! This is all documented in the log book. Do I need to say more about dealers? Do I need to go over the ball joints and wheel alignments? What about the natorious handbrake problems? Replacing my front rotors because I was sick of leaving it with them.

I know there is good and bad in everything, and it was just my bad luck... but money never came into it and now I take the car to individual specialist when required.
olfella is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 27-11-2007, 02:35 AM   #45
MR NC FAIRLANE
GO HARD
 
MR NC FAIRLANE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 73
Default

thanks Ken W i'll have it checked out. As for people in general they allways ask each other if the know of some good trades person for jobs that need doing home or car. my post is genuine i want eneryone to stop replying as its a personal attack. As we all know there are good and bad in every industry. I am not trying to p*ss people off and i cant believe there aren't more people who have bad experiences replying.
MR NC FAIRLANE is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 27-11-2007, 10:20 PM   #46
VIBEBA
huh???
 
VIBEBA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Diggers
Posts: 427
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MR NC FAIRLANE
thanks Ken W i'll have it checked out. As for people in general they allways ask each other if the know of some good trades person for jobs that need doing home or car. my post is genuine i want eneryone to stop replying as its a personal attack. As we all know there are good and bad in every industry. I am not trying to p*ss people off and i cant believe there aren't more people who have bad experiences replying.
Hey buddy i understand where you are coming from i have had a few dodgy mechanics myself but maybe you should have been a little more tactful with your post..
iv'e learnd myself that it dosent take a lot to upset people here and a lot of the time people do take it a little to personal
any way just my 2 cents
good luck in your search..
__________________

VIBEBA is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 28-11-2007, 05:09 PM   #47
MR NC FAIRLANE
GO HARD
 
MR NC FAIRLANE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Gold Coast
Posts: 73
Default

Yes i could have wrote it with more tact FC- 351 but at the time i was p*ssed off throwing money down the drain. is this better.HI ALL does any one no a good mechanic on the gold coast.
MR NC FAIRLANE is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 28-11-2007, 05:17 PM   #48
fmc351
let it burn
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: QUEENSLANDER!!!!!
Posts: 2,866
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MR NC FAIRLANE
Yes i could have wrote it with more tact FC- 351 but at the time i was p*ssed off throwing money down the drain. is this better.HI ALL does any one no a good mechanic on the gold coast.
Much better. Know, I dont no a good mechanic on the Gold Coast though.
fmc351 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 07:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL