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Wait till the new models come out then we will see. The public know new models are on the way. So it is to be expected tat sales will drop. Also you can`t go on about one ford without the public getting a litttle nervous. Every company has it`s ups and downs.
But last but not least Ford is not Holdenas has been said, they have been able to sell less and still make a profit, that should show that they know what they are doing. ALSO HAVE NOTICED on Seek.com.au that they are hiring people for head office. |
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I'm going to plant an I.E.D. in Drive's lunch room.
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Ford Australia are only concerned about one thing....profits. IF they can boost profits by ceasing production and selling only imports then that's what they'll do. I for one have been really disappointed in my locally built Territory and have been put off buying another locally made car, be that Ford or Holden. If Telstra can terminate a contract with a supplier that results in 700 job losses and no one bats an eye lid you can be sure Ford will have no hesitation to do the same.
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Don't worry the carbon tax will be the final nail in the coffin for all Aussie manufacturing.
At least we should all be able to get real cheap Falcons and commodores before the lights get turned off. If you reckon petrol's costly wait for the carbon tax and cant catch trains cause they run on electricity ooooo dirty dirty Julia (sorry a bit of a rant that) Ford need to come out with pushies cause thats all well be able to afford to use Ford dont seem to be able to get anything right, the cars are fantastic best in class but no one buys them why????? New Terri, no AWD petrol why not?? FG; Curtain airbags on option why?? the media cans them for it Been trying to buy a CL Fiesta Auto pwr shift sedan 2010, no curtain bags is option, hardly any imported why?? |
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People are still buying new Fords, just not the larger varieties. |
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Economy bounces back and Falcon's sales still fall off a cliff?
Its pretty obvious then what game Holden are playing - last man standing. With the almost inevitable demise of the Falcon, the Commodore may finally return to decent profits. |
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Terri will be the first test and LPG will be the next. Also I love how they are trying to model Ford's production on Holden numbers. Gotta love 'quality' journalism.
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At the moment i'm edging towards either an XR6T or GS ute because I figure they'll become endangered species well before sports sedans (falcon or otherwise) also become endangered species. Take away the Falcon and I don't see the commodore lasting much longer (end of the life of whatever platform its on). And anything comparable from overseas thats in the same size range is much more expensive. Last edited by SteveJH; 08-03-2011 at 08:14 PM. |
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Ultimately, picking up that much market share will probably help Holden more than the problems with part suppliers will hinder them. That said, without Ford to push them along, its unlikely Holden will push as hard to improve the car. Less choice always has a downside beyond the obvious. |
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its no good sitting back and talking about it how bout we all get out and buy one?? i look at Ford and Holden in Australia as a bit of a mate really how many times has a falcon or commodore been there in a time of need and helped out by getting you there. Now it's time to return the favour and it sounds more like we are treating it like a family member with cancer and just sitting there watching them die, when we can all help by going out and buying a brand new one and not going for the imported car because its cheaper and bla bla bla
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Well I think the Territory selling its pants off when the new model comes out is a given.
But whats frustrating is that I feel Falcon is so bloody close in hitting the sweet spot in the market again. Get rid of that 90s derived styling with some facsia updates and whack the V6 diesel in it. This is the same company which underestimated Mondeo diesel demand, and buyers have to wait for months for diesel stock yet they dont want to put it in the Falcon...??? ARRGGH so close yet so far. Look at Mondeo sales now which has a diesel engine, there is a big market there just waiting to be tapped. I know country people would go nuts for a diesel Falcon, and all the trendy latte set think diesel is 'so euro', fleets love diesel - some fleets are diesel only e.g. Woolworths. Having it there would improve diesel economy of production scale for Territory too. Its a no-brainer. |
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Why not, its done for the Territory. It will do a lot better than the Ecoboost for sure. |
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So you can't. The last V6 project they undertook for the Falcon was quite expensive and didn't go well (and put them in the situation they are now). I would have no problem with a diesel variant in the Falcon series. As there it could pull an extra 3-400 sales a month but it would need to be a cheap project for it to even be considered.
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The diesel will also be a lot cheaper and more worthwhile to implement than Burela's EgoStroke...sorry EcoBoost engine. |
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The problem is not Ford going back to 3 day weeks to balance out the inventory,
it's assuming that if they do nothing else, then Falcon's sales will just come back. I think that's a very dangerous assumption and my big fear is that the best ever Territory may come at one a hell of a price, FG II being dead on arrival. My prediction is that the 3-day week will extend into April and force Ford to make a decision... |
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this might sound crazy but what if Ford priced their spare parts more reasonably? theres some parts, like trim pieces that are highway robbery. like the plastic bit on the back of the front seats $250!!!! the rectangle plastic piece between the icc and top console $75
it would be a win-win-win people get cheaper parts, ford sells more parts, more demand on suppliers for parts plus cars would look heaps better btw i did buy a new terri last year |
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Ford have burned a lot of people over the years by letting con artists run their dealerships and letting dodgy cars leave the factory. The pillocks in head office still think it's 1986 and Ford is everyone's default choice.
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A bad thing happened....Ford are no longer competitive enough with their pricing as after an 8 year run of Falcons as company cars, G6's and Futura's mainly, our company has gone for a bog standard Aurion ATX.
Why? Of course the Falcon is a better car in almost every respect but at 27K each, the ATX won. I blame Ford for making me drive a Toyota. If anyone knows how to get Ford to beat this price as well as the service costs, they will get their business back and I won't be looking for another job ![]() BTW, I am not that one eyed but this Aurion wont tow my boat, hasn't got split rear seats and lacks boot room so is virtually useless outside my work environment.
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