Who is your favourite V8 supercharge drive of all time?

[tex]

Craig L as a current competitor, John B as an ex competitor.

Both genuine gentlemen of the category, humble, down to earth, appreciative.

And they're fairly good steerers from all accounts ..... hahahaha

Both of them dig the fans and give a lot back to motorsport as a whole.

[DJL351]

Supercar/V8 era - JB hands down.
All around pro.
Ambrosse would be a close second.

In terms of ATCC (Group A/C & Supertaxis)
Dick Johnson in a canter.

[galaxy xr8]

Originally Posted by HULK_BA

that was a beauty when seto was home n hosed and his car gave up. just had to park it. He never ever did win did he? Thats gotta hurt him.

When he is 65 he will tell his grand children, "i was home n hosed but the car gave up"

What was so good about that .....you are even more of a fool to try and bait me with that remark mate....if you had any idea of what it takes to win at the mountain you wouldn't make such a thoughtless comment, there are a lot of people that have come close to have it taken away from them at the mountain

[Chopped]

Brock in anything.

Ambrose in anything.

Jim Richards in a Porsche. (Even if if he does think we are a pack of rsoles, lol)

I also use to rate Allan Grice, until I met him......

[Grippy]

Craig Lowndes, a naturally skilled driver, a good bloke and a great ambassador for the sport.

[dimka100]

Sebastian Vetel … wait his V8 has no supercharger :(

[TUF_302]

Lowndesys for me always been the most entertaining driver in my opinion

[FPV8U]

Marcos Ambrose.

Dragged Ford Motorsport Australia out of a hole, Rookie of the year his first season, leading Ford man his second season and would have had 3 championships on his way to NASCAR if a few questionable "calls" hadn't been made through the season.

Fords line-up still has a massive hole where he once stood a massive 6 seasons later, the year he returns to take on the mountain i'll make the journey for the first time.

John bowe was another of my favorites, love watching the TCM now that he is in it.

[stev3n]

Originally Posted by Veefore

Alan Moffat. He brought professionality to Australian motor racing.
Either that or Jim Richards. Nobody has been as successful in so many different "touring" cars. He is also one of the nicest people I have ever met.

love jim also

[Windsor342ci]

For me it would be a toss up between Lowndes and Ambrose. As you can tell Ive only been into the V8SC's since the AU and vaguly remember Dick Johnson in the Yellow Shell EL's if Im correct. But I was pretty young then and dont remember much.
I love Ambrose's skill and Lowndes personality.

[wrongwaynorris]

Originally Posted by Bushbasher

I remember that race, it was the only year of Grp A world championship. That was indeed a damn fine bit of peddling and Brocky crossed the line 3rd before the Egenburger Sierras were disqualified (eventually) for illegal bodywork, although they were caught out using illegal fuel as well. I remember Crompton on pit lane with the wind blowing and rain ****ing down reporting on the fuel testing during the race.


Bushbasher

Not entirely how it happened . A protest was raised re the Eggenberger fuel but as soon as a counter protest was raised against the Commodore runners funnilly enough the original protest was dropped INSTANTLY . Commodores running that high a compression ratio also need funny fuel . That whole year was a bloody disgrace , we wanted to be part of the greater world until they beat us then we whinge and sook and nit pick until we find the tinyest of indiscretions . If only Rudi knew all the areas the Commodores fudged on , that race could still be being decided today .

[BA-XT]

I only got into the V8's a few years ago,'but I'm now hooked! So much so I've bought Mark Winterbottoms 1/18 scale car.

For me my favorite drivers are Frosty and Craig Lowndes. Both seem like nice guys. Will Davison a close 3rd.

Don't remember Ambros that much.

I've got seasons 2009 to 2011 on DVD. I'm kind of hooked!

[homegrown]

Ford would have to be my Fav.
If their not driving a Blue Oval I dont want to see them do well.
No one like DJ tho.

[ebxr8240]

DJ for personality..
Gentleman Jim as quiet achiever..
Brocky from the other side and some one else's car when his broke..

[Joe5619]

Glenn Seton!!

[homegrown]

Originally Posted by Joe5619

Glenn Seton!!

I ll put that down for my Dad.
When he was dominating it was Awesome then after a couple of years of his form starting to slip our lounge room would turn into a war zone. tv remotes always busted, holes in walls "you @#$% always trying to slow Seaton down. every year trying help holdens win.
Only with a lot more swear words

[tankclare]

Another vote for Craig Lowndes

[Falc'man]

Originally Posted by FPV8U

Marcos Ambrose.

Dragged Ford Motorsport Australia out of a hole, Rookie of the year his first season, leading Ford man his second season and would have had 3 championships on his way to NASCAR if a few questionable "calls" hadn't been made through the season.

Fords line-up still has a massive hole where he once stood a massive 6 seasons later, the year he returns to take on the mountain i'll make the journey for the first time.

John bowe was another of my favorites, love watching the TCM now that he is in it.

I still hope he comes back one day, for Ford and their fan's sake.
For his sake I hope he doesn't.
He's number one in my book, he even made that AU competitive. BA came along and their was lion's blood everywhere.

There's one guy that leaves a good impression on me and it's Lowndes for his gentleman-like behaviour. Never 6itches or whines, always diplomatic.



Edit: I have changed my mind on the favourite. It must go to Tony Longhurst for punching Paul Morris.

[svo supporter]

Originally Posted by gtxb67

he was only a lap down on richards/skaife, so he did not actually gain a full lap on anyone. the pace car gained him half a lap towards the end. his engineering was great, but in virtually every win as a driver, he needed a huge stroke of luck

Have to agree with BUSHBASHER.

You are quoting that Perkins was a lap down on the leader , which means Perkins won the race from being a lap down from lap one of the great race.

Just because someone is a lap down, doesn't mean they are a lap down on the whole field, as you are insinuating. They only need 1 car to do a lap more than them, to go that magic lap down.

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by svo supporter

Have to agree with BUSHBASHER.

Originally Posted by Bushbasher

Also the only man to ever win Bathurst from a lap down!!

Originally Posted by Bushbasher

The duo started to climb back up into contention, helped by cars ailing to go the race distance and Safety car periods including once after having just un-laped themselves and were back in the top 5 with 20 laps to go.

maybe you could grab a copy of bathurst 1980 and 1995

the first bushbasher quote was that perkins was the only man to win bathurst from a lap down - wrong. brock was a lap down in 1980

the second bushbasher quote suggested that perkins/ingall unlapped themselves - wrong again. after his pitstop on lap 1 perkins came out of the pits slightly ahead of wayne gardner in the coke commode dore. jim richards in the winfield commode dore then passed wayne for the lead of the race. jim proceeded to put a lap on perkins, and from that point on perkins followed jim within a few seconds. the fact that he was staying with jim, meant he was pulling away from glenn seton who was now in second. when the winfield commode dore expired with skaife at the wheel, perkins was back on the lead lap

he was not the first - and he never unlapped himself


since the motor racing fans and media conveniently forgot about brock being a lap down on johnson on lap 17 of the 1980 race, i figured that if brock had not done it, then perkins had not either. pedantic: yes, fact: yes in a way. of course johnson never completed lap 17 and brock was back on the lead lap, although he did not actually unlap himself. the only car that was a lap ahead had retired before brock was back on the lead lap



so pedantic or otherwise. perkins was not the first to win from a lap down. whether he was a lap down or not is irrellevant because the feat (if it had happened, had previously happened in 1980)






and i previously let this go through to the keeper, although others picked up on it as well

Originally Posted by Bushbasher

although they were caught out using illegal fuel as well.

no they were not using illegal fuel




so which blatantly wrong statement do you agree with

[Ryan]

Current: Tander.

All time: Brock.

Who didn't see that coming?

[Joe5619]

Originally Posted by homegrown

I ll put that down for my Dad.
When he was dominating it was Awesome then after a couple of years of his form starting to slip our lounge room would turn into a war zone. tv remotes always busted, holes in walls "you @#$% always trying to slow Seaton down. every year trying help holdens win.
Only with a lot more swear words

I'm still waiting for the next Seton to come along, in Aaron Seton. Ive been tracking his go-kart career, I think hes going to be the next best thing one day... Still a bit young, needs a few more years!!

[svo supporter]

Originally Posted by gtxb67

so which blatantly wrong statement do you agree with

If Perkins was a lap down by any driver, he would have to have unlapped himself somehow to end up in first place, wouldn't he? Be it on the track, or via pit strategy. Either way, he managed to get the lap back and take a win.
Or is this untrue? Judging by your comments, it must be.

I have never said anything about Perkins being the only driver to complete this feat, nor have I said anything about the Sierra Fiasco. So where this comes into my quoting, I have no idea. Must have something to do with you having a bee in your bonnet, with me agreeing with Bushbasher.


I have mearly pointed out, Perkins did take a race win, after being a lap down at the beginning of the race.

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by svo supporter

If Perkins was a lap down by any driver, he would have to have unlapped himself somehow to end up in first place, wouldn't he? Be it on the track, or via pit strategy. Either way, he managed to get the lap back and take a win.
Or is this untrue? Judging by your comments, it must be.

I have never said anything about Perkins being the only driver to complete this feat, nor have I said anything about the Sierra Fiasco. So where this comes into my quoting, I have no idea. Must have something to do with you having a bee in your bonnet, with me agreeing with Bushbasher.


I have mearly pointed out, Perkins did take a race win, after being a lap down at the beginning of the race.

when mark skaife retired during his first stint, perkins was back on the lead lap. perkins did not pass skaife under racing or yellow flag conditions. he gained the lap back because of a retirement

when johnson retired during his first stint in 1980, brock was back on the lead lap. brock did not pass johnson under racing or yellow flag conditions. he gained the lap back because of a retirement


you said you agreed with bushbasher. that is fine, but by quoting my post to agree with him, you are disagreeing with me. if there is a bee in my bonnet, then that is because someone bought into a discussion, with little knowledge or by disregarding most of the previous posts. my facts were right. bushbasher's were wrong. if you or others do not know facts, maybe you should not post. if you disagree with one line, then maybe you should read the rest of the thread before posting. it ain't that hard to check. i guess it is just easier to start arguments based on fiction



until you bought into it with selective quoting, that still is not right, this part of the discussion seemed to be finished and we were back on topic

[Iggle Piggle]

Originally Posted by FPV8U

Rookie of the year his first season

Unlike those that take 4 to 5 years to win rookie of the year??

Moff, Dick, JB, Brock and Jim Richards for me (in any order).

[bullfrog]

Moffat for me, did it when you drove 1000Km,s by yourself, no co-drivers or cross-entered cars/drivers.

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by bullfrog

Moffat for me, did it when you drove 1000Km,s by yourself, no co-drivers or cross-entered cars/drivers.

Spot on and the LEGEND of Ford racing imo....watched and enjoyed many "highs" when a young un.
Followed by Seto !
Ambrose without a doubt !
CL during his Ford tenure.

[EB#]

Lowndes.

Professional, fast, never ever heard him whinge about anything, and
always has a word of praise for his team.

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by bullfrog

Moffat for me, did it when you drove 1000Km,s by yourself, no co-drivers or cross-entered cars/drivers.

i love the guy, but in fairness to my anti perkins/brock posts, he "only" drove 830 kms by himself. in 1970, they no longer needed a co driver and moff won that year and the next. brock won solo in 72
bruce mcphee won in 1968 driving all but the one compulsory lap that his co-driver had to do
from 1973, the race was 1000km and co-drivers were once again compulsory

[bullfrog]

Originally Posted by gtxb67

i love the guy, but in fairness to my anti perkins/brock posts, he "only" drove 830 kms by himself. in 1970, they no longer needed a co driver and moff won that year and the next. brock won solo in 72
bruce mcphee won in 1968 driving all but the one compulsory lap that his co-driver had to do
from 1973, the race was 1000km and co-drivers were once again compulsory

OK, I stand corrected, but isn't 500Ml x 1.6= 800Km.
Still my "hero".