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Old 08-12-2017, 08:07 PM   #1
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Default Re: HSV imports Camaro, Silverado...tweeks Colorado.

It looks great in black. So 1000 base units to get their feet wet and to keep the price as low as possible for the incoming RHD's - makes sense to me even if they're over-priced.

The new 755 hp Corvette ZR1 is about 120k usd, imagine the price of that here.
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:35 PM   #2
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Default Re: HSV imports Camaro, Silverado...tweeks Colorado.

Thinking logically here, the possible Camaro import will be the SS2 (premium trim) which currently costs
around USD$45K before you add auto, so that's AUS$60K before delivery to Australia and conversion to RHD.

They also need to add the cost of crash testing at least two of the cars, so there's another $1 Million to amortize.

Given how much sales of Mustang and Camaro have slowed up in the US, you'd think that it would
be a lot cheaper to just do the RHDs at the factory...Maybe Holden can't get that business plan to fly..
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Default Re: HSV imports Camaro, Silverado...tweeks Colorado.

Holden are really on a self destruct mission.
Questions to be raised are,
Why doesn't HSV want to touch the 'new' Commodore with a barge pole?
What would happen to resale values of these vehicles, if Factory RHD became available?
SportsCat.....was that the best name HSV could come up with?
Chevrolet name over Holden. It has to be but it really diminishes Holdens relevance further.
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Holden and therefore HSV died when Commodore ended production as far as I'm concerned.

I'd wait until they bring in factory RHD models. I don't hate on those cashed up enough to get into one before then though.
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:45 AM   #5
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Maybe they should just stick to caravans...
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Walkinshaw Caravan behind the Colorado Sportscat - the ultimate cashed-up bogan accomodation for Summernats or a Bathurst weekend...
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We're in for interesting times. I wonder now if GM will end up bothering with a RHD Camaro when maybe it makes better financial sense for Corvette to right hand drive markets .The conversion method could be it for Camaro.
Who knows ?. Then again Ford aren't likely to do the fancy GT 350R or GT 500's for us directly either . Going by this Motor write up about 18 months ago the best we get is the standard GT but with the special kits available at a pretty big jump in prices going by the article..https://www.motormag.com.au/news/160...d-in-australia I suppose the FTE fits in there somewhere now.
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"tweeks" Colorado? What a joke that sticker pack is.

Unfortunately I bet the Ranger Raptor will be the same.
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"tweeks" Colorado? What a joke that sticker pack is.

Unfortunately I bet the Ranger Raptor will be the same.

Didn't realise reworking the suspention was a sticker...
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Didn't realise reworking the suspention was a sticker...
Yeah they are making it handle better onroad because hardly anyone takes 4x4 utes offroad these days.
Considering every second duel cab ute is driven like a sports car on the road, having better suspension would be a good thing. Also a better engine will be useful because most owners will actually use the engine to it's full capability. Usually every time the left lane ends.


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http://www.caradvice.com.au/614507/h...cing-revealed/

$90,000 for the Camero
$130,000 for the Silverado
$65,000 to $72,000 for the Colorado
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$90,000 for the Camero
$130,000 for the Silverado
$65,000 to $72,000 for the Colorado
Jeez, the current import converters will breathe a lot easier seeing those prices....

If only Ford still built RHD F250, a crew cab XLT Diesel for $90K would clean up.
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Default Re: HSV imports Camaro, Silverado...tweeks Colorado.

Visited the HSV website to find there is hardly any Commodore related info standing out anymore.
A little link down the bottom of the page.
Strange seeing they haven’t finished building them yet.
Plenty there for the Camaro which they haven’t started building yet.
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Default Re: HSV imports Camaro, Silverado...tweeks Colorado.

Question,
If Holden is selling Camaro as new RHD product, does that prevent the importers competing with them?

I think that was the case with the current Mustang.....

Also thinking along the HSV lines,
Could Ford import LHD GT350s and have FPV do conversions with factory RHD bits?
Just a thought if interest builds up enough...

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Question,
If Holden is selling Camaro as new RHD product, does that prevent the importers competing with them?

I think that was the case with the current Mustang.....

Also thinking along the HSV lines,
Could Ford import LHD GT350s and have FPV do conversions with factory RHD bits?
Just a thought if interest builds up enough...
I was under the impression that the GT350's and other non-standard variants were built in the same manner that the Commodore-based HSV product was built.
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I was under the impression that the GT350's and other non-standard variants were built in the same manner that the Commodore-based HSV product was built.
No, Ford just use the Shelby name, the engine is special, hand built but the
GT350 goes down the line with all the rest and leaves Flat rock complete.

The Shelby you're thinking of is the Supersnake, that car is modded at Shelby
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Default Re: HSV imports Camaro, Silverado...tweeks Colorado.

[QUOTE=jpd80;6048897]Question,
If Holden is selling Camaro as new RHD product, does that prevent the importers competing with them?

I think that was the case with the current Mustang.....

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That's what I thought, it would make importing them illegal wouldn't it.
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Considering there was a market for 90k+ HSVs then I would say there is also a market for a 90k SS Camaro. Similar performance to the LSA Commodores too.

Will be nice to see Camaros on the roads with Mustangs.

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You'd have to have rocks in your head to pay an extra 30k for a Camaro over a 2018 Mustang.
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Righto, HSV should sell a **** load of Camaro's to Aussies in the next few years then...
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Righto, HSV should sell a **** load of Camaro's to Aussies in the next few years then...
There's suckers born every minute. If it was a factory rhd drive car like a Mustang it would be less than 60k.
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There's suckers born every minute. If it was a factory rhd drive car like a Mustang it would be less than 60k.
Why dont they buy one in factory RHD for 60k then...oh thats right, there isnt one.
Ironic how thousands of people have bought the inferior current model Mustang when they could have waited 2 years and bought the next model which is far superior, yet buying a current model camaro, which must come with the cost of conversion or wouldn't be an option, is a poor decision and buyers should wait for the factory RHD model in 2 years.
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Why dont they buy one in factory RHD for 60k then...oh thats right, there isnt one.
Ironic how thousands of people have bought the inferior current model Mustang when they could have waited 2 years and bought the next model which is far superior, yet buying a current model camaro, which must come with the cost of conversion or wouldn't be an option, is a poor decision and buyers should wait for the factory RHD model in 2 years.
So you think paying 30k more for a comparable model is good value?
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Rumour is 2018 mustang is gonna get a big price increase, the difference might not be as big as we would hope.
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Rumour is 2018 mustang is gonna get a big price increase, the difference might not be as big as we would hope.
US pricing has the 2018 model at $1800 more than a 17.

For gt premium fastback.

Hardly a big increase.

Around $2k cheaper than a camaro 2ss.
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US pricing has the 2018 model at $1800 more than a 17.

For gt premium fastback.

Hardly a big increase.

Around $2k cheaper than a camaro 2ss.
Interesting comparion between LHD to RHD prices, consider Aussie $ equal Canadian $

LHD Premium Mustang GT = $47,288
RHD Premium Mustang GT = $62,989 (+$15,700)

LHD 2SS Camaro =$48,595
RHD 2SS Camaro =$90,000 Approx (+$51,400)
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Interesting comparion between LHD to RHD prices, consider Aussie $ equal Canadian $

LHD Premium Mustang GT = $47,288
RHD Premium Mustang GT = $62,989 (+$15,700)

LHD 2SS Camaro =$48,595
RHD 2SS Camaro =$90,000 Approx (+$51,400).
These comparisons are always rubbish.

Add the performance Pack content plus other standard features to the AU version, add 10% GST and the Australian spec Mustang is on par with the US version.

Go back through the old threads and see we get a VERY good deal here.
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Bottom line, there's around $20,000 to $25,000 in added costs for Camaro buyers to wear
and the '19 Camaro stays with 8AT so they don't match Mustang's 10-speed auto or a 6-speed manual.

No actual numbers on MY19 Mustang orders but it's mechanically different enough to justify
upgrading to the new 10-speed auto, the better close ratio 6-speed manual, MT82-D4 = Tremec TR6060
MagneRide may also become a popular ordered item as it takes suspension to another level.

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There will be people in the market who only want to drive a V8 GM product. The Camaro fits the slot.
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