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Old 26-02-2013, 10:15 PM   #61
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No one could care less if the Nissan had of finished the race not bent in the wall. You are getting confused about why people were upset. It had nothing to do with the car, only the way they won the race don't corrupt history . Nissan only won the race twice in 10 or so attempts its not such a great record as people seem to remember.

The Sierra had good form in the late 80s but even the Commodores had more pace than it towards the end of Group A. It was all much closer than you think back then. I don't think there was a need to change the rules, it would have sorted itself out.
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Old 26-02-2013, 10:36 PM   #62
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No one could care less if the Nissan had of finished the race not bent in the wall. You are getting confused about why people were upset. It had nothing to do with the car, only the way they won the race don't corrupt history . Nissan only won the race twice in 10 or so attempts its not such a great record as people seem to remember
too true - the people complained only about the way the race ended with a crashed car and the multi coloured flags . . . . although the drunks i saw on the mountain that day had no idea of the rules, let alone what the flags meant

for sure most of us didn't like the nissan (not hated as much as the commode dores though), but the booing had nothing to do with the brand of car at all
so unless there is another red flag situation with the winning car in the wall, i doubt we will hear that line again
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Old 27-02-2013, 08:21 AM   #63
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GM have managed to get an Australian produced product into the line of sight of many US viewers. It must double or triple the production volume of the SS, mustn't it? A remarkable achievement with the $AUD so high against the $US.

It won't change the world (think Monaro to US or Mitsubishi Magna [Diamante]) but it will underwrite their business here for a while in a manner Ford seem unable to do.
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Old 27-02-2013, 03:12 PM   #64
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Well the pace car was a real Commodore.
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Old 27-02-2013, 04:42 PM   #65
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Here is the Nascar winner in its natural state!



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Old 27-02-2013, 05:04 PM   #66
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That side profile/boot area is horrid
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Old 27-02-2013, 05:11 PM   #67
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I seen a couple of Chev ss smashed up, was great marketing.
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Old 27-02-2013, 05:23 PM   #68
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The boot reminds me of the 2006-2011 Toyota Camry boot styling.
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Old 27-02-2013, 05:23 PM   #69
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Who is to say this is the final base Commodore VF look? Maybe this car is still missing some bits or has too many bits … I would for example replace the side vent’s chrome paint with black, so they don’t stand out so much when viewed from side and blend in better with the black window surround.

The wheels I think are fine. They are small and simple … suits a base model and better than cheapo steel wheels Ford uses on the XTs.

The front is actually fine, again its simple looking without any of the fancier bits the higher end models get … I think Holden got the balance between low end and high end just fine here.
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Old 27-02-2013, 05:24 PM   #70
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But why no interior shots or back shots? … Seriously the car is open wide and exposed there and all they decided to take was 2 pictures of the exterior???
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Old 27-02-2013, 05:27 PM   #71
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I donno...MK2 XT is fine looking...

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Old 27-02-2013, 07:59 PM   #73
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Commodore bogans in the making before they can even figure out what a spark plug is....
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Old 27-02-2013, 08:16 PM   #75
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Who is to say this is the final base Commodore VF look? Maybe this car is still missing some bits or has too many bits … I would for example replace the side vent’s chrome paint with black, so they don’t stand out so much when viewed from side and blend in better with the black window surround.

The wheels I think are fine. They are small and simple … suits a base model and better than cheapo steel wheels Ford uses on the XTs.

The front is actually fine, again its simple looking without any of the fancier bits the higher end models get … I think Holden got the balance between low end and high end just fine here.
UM no. That is it. Registered and ready to go. No changes. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but really only the Mother of GM could love that car.

I drove an XT MK11 EcoBoost and (trying hard to keep my blue eyes neutral) absolutely poos on the VF for looks and uniformity from front to back. The wheels also look like proper alloy wheels on the XT, not alloy wheels trying to impersonate hubcaps. Simple is one thing but lazy design is another.

PS: Have a look at the photo above ....

PPS: Thought it was the VF thread sorry ....... should keep the topic to what it is here and continue the discussion here:

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Old 27-02-2013, 09:45 PM   #76
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The Omega is hiddeous. No wonder they kept it hidden and only showed the Calais V and SSV.
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Old 27-02-2013, 10:51 PM   #77
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Mods need to look at how far off topic this is getting

Ps. Just had a look at who was posting off topic posts

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Mods need to look at how far off topic this is getting

Ps. Just had a look at who was posting off topic posts

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The threads now as close to the original topic as a commodore winning nascar .....
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That side shot of the Omega looks like it would be very nice if it was a coupe and was lowered with some nice rims.
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wow I think it is great that an ausie design ( all be it only a sticker pack ) has won the great race in the us yes I know it is a standard chassis but the body is a holden commodore ss badged as a chev

I say cudos to holden for coming up trumps

Tell me .. where do we buy a two door VF Commie? No ... the bodies are not of the manufacture but are a standard size and profile for NASCAR.
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