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The comments are not really in favour of poor Stuart and it looks like they will publish anything....
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V10 was introduced in 2005 (E60).
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I dont know, call me crazy but I agree with the final score. In my opinion the Commodore is a pretty good package in base model form.
More safety equipment, more features, better looking (subjective), better resale. I would still buy the Falcon but a Commodore I think is a better drive. It feels more planted to the road and the seating position is much better. It also dosnt have the front end float that base model Falcons have. Driving a base Commodore with its 50:50 weight distribution on a windy road makes you appreciate how good they are. I doubt that there is this massive conspiracy against the Falcon, its just that the Commodore is pretty dam good nowadays and I think that hurts a few people on here to hear. |
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Adelaide
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Used to know Stuart. He's part time now. The journo's vet their own comments section. Obviously a co-worker let through the more abrasive stuff. Happy happy comments have been disallowed.
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I'm not even going to read that. It's just one man's opinion. BORING. And does the FG and VE share the same roof and doors! LOL! there's similar and then there's just ummm....To similar.
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Look here: http://www.caradvice.com.au/64870/to...-altona-plant/ In comparison, how much local componentry goes in to the Commodore or Falcon? More into the Ford than the Holden I'm guessing, but the sheer volume of Toyotas manufactured compared to Commos & Falcs means that Toyota are far more valuable to the Aussie economy than the other two internationally owned local manufacturers.
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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I have just got a '07 VE Omega and came out of a '07 BF mkII XT. I have to say at first I was thinking the VE was a nicer package. It does have a few extra niceties and features that the Falcon lacked. A few weeks in and it's a different story. I've had a chance to live with and look over the car in more detail and have found it to be lacking in many ways.
Bearing in mind I do still think it is better equipped I have found the following: Ford holds the road way better. VE feels floaty in the rear. VE paint is very ordinary over whole car. Orange peel seems to be the acceptable finish. Carpet and trim on VE feels very "made in China" and all comes a drift regularly. VE has very cheap plasticy feeling and loose fitting parts everywhere. Try around the headlight switch for instance or beside passenger seat. VE engine goes well but is very agricultural sounding. VE Door trim and interior materials seem hard to clean. Armour All it and cover it up seems to work better. I am generally very underwhelmed with it so far and my idea of "trying what the other team runs" has so far fallen flat. My next car will be another Falcon thanks! I'll take some good old fashioned build quality over funky digital dash lights and gimmicks. I reckon if you want top make some money in the future buy up the crappy VE plastic bits cause you'll make a fortune on Ebay in 10 years time!
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He does mention the steering in the Falcon and I think this is one area that both cars really shine. For a while carmakers made steering heavier to give the impression that the car was more sporty or gave more feedback (cough, cough BA and VZ). Whereas the VE and FG have been able to give feedback and meatiness whilst still being delicate and precise. For me the improvements in the FG simply in the steering should be enough to get BA-BF owners to upgrade. Its back to AU Falcon levels of steering goodness. I still would buy a Falcon (if it came in wagon) but it dosnt suprise me that the Commodore won the test. I think you have to live with a Falcon for a while before you can truly appreciate how much better the package is, whereas the Commodores probably gives a good first impression with its trinkets. |
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i still prefer the steering feel in the AU, its spot on.
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![]() my drive to work and back is 90km each way on a windy country highway and the VE feels MUCH less planted on the road than my BF. and the seating position is much less comfortable too. Getting out of the VE and into the BF feels like an instant upgrade. At least it means that I don't have to pay for my travelling though, so overall I'm not complaining... Quote:
I think your comparison of Ford/Holden being rubbish compared to BMW isn't completely accurate though. A few years ago (2004) I considered trading my BA Ghia for a similarly priced BMW. 2yo BA vs 5-6yo E39 5 series (fair comparison as they were the same price). after test driving a couple and getting back in the BA I immediately abandoned that idea. The Ghia was significantly more comfortable with more power and more features so I kept it... |
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