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In Daddy's car no doubt. Does anybody notice a higher rate of 'bad driving' from people in hi end Euro cars? My wife swears owners of Beemers & Benz's etc, believe they have rights the rest of the road users don't, such as phone use , cutting in, failing to use indicators etc.
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One thing for sure is that there's lots of people who won't give them the benefit of the doubt. Or maybe there's a bit of envy and/or prejudgement involved? One of my daughters owns a 12 month old Evoque and where peeps would give me a go in my lousy old Falcon or Commodore they tend not to extend the same courtesy to her (or me if I'm driving it).
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When you see one fail to indicate, wait for the wipe. Indicator on the left stalk syndrome.
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Thats european indicators. Its when expensive car brands cheap out on right hand drive conversions. I learnt to drive on 2 cars with indicators on the wrong side. For the past 15 odd years ive been back with the correct orientation. Left hand indicators are a bigger pain when people dont know the indicator direction is opposite and in the same direction as you turn the steering wheel and indicate left when turning right.
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The first time I drove daughter's car was at night, in the rain, to the airport to pick up her husband. I had wipers going every which way. I don't how how I got the rear one on but I couldn't have turned it off if my life depended on it.
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Hardly see any poor driving from those in E-class, S-class or 5/6/7 series Beemers. But the biggest negative trend I'm seeing is the X-class BMW and GL class Mercs - they seem to have the impression that regardless of the spend, they can do what they like. 3 times in the last few days I've watched a GLE and GLS Merc change lanes onto another car - whilst the mirror is lit up red and flashing like a beacon telling them there's a car there. Seems no amount of money can accomodate pathetic driving. At least the Volvo will steer you back into the lane to avoid the accident - seems the Mercs are too easy to over-ride the lane warnings. But getting back to phones - the only time I've ever seen someone send an SMS in what I would consider is a safe manner, is on the old Nokia keypad phones, where you pressed the keys multiple times for letters - you could write out your 160 character message without looking at your phone at all. This afternoon I watched a girl at the lights who had a large iPhone (7+or 8+) in a cradle on the windscreen, in the corner near the door. At the red light she flicked from having maps on the screen, to her facebook feed, and started scrolling. After being honked to go, she flicked it back to maps, and repeated it at the next set of lights. Are people that bloody deperate they can't leave farcebook until they get home??? FFS if it's that important, get the bus and FB your life away, but keep it off the road. I think stopping mobile data (but still allowing cellular calls) through on the phone whilst driving should be the next step. Even if it's linked to the bluetooth, so when your bluetooth connects to the car, data (and the capability to scroll FB) is prevented. There would need to be work-arounds for map data, but that shouldn't be too hard to achieve. Sure, people will get around it simply by turning off bluetooth, but then they risk having to hold their phone to their ear and get busted. I love this video - especially at 1:24 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_h_ZCseHCc And another one like it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N1iw5Vdim8 One of the comments in that is "Catching ppl looking at their phones at lights is like shooting fish in a barrel............just look around you next time you our driving....." He is so right. On the days I see the cops splitting stopped traffic on bikes, they never get to the end of the line without stopping beside someone for a chat & a ticket. Makes good fodder for the "what made you feel good today" thread.... ![]() |
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A letter in the paper today suggested that people caught using their phone while driving should have it immediately confiscated for a few months, that would really hit them where it hurts.
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I really feel that phone use should be different offences according to what is being done.Talking on the phone is totally different to texting and the penalty should reflect this.Talking on the phone is very similiar to talking to a passenger,so isn,t really a crime as such,BUT texting should be classed as a serious offence and should be penalised much more.Make the talking penalty a couple of hundred dollars.As for texting a minimum penalty around $1000 for a first offence ,then maybe 3 months licence suspension plus maybe $2000 fine might make the d$#$4heads wake up to themselves
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For starters my ex wife lost her licence for touching her phone. Powers rd for anyone who knows 7 hills. She isn't the kind of person who let's the truth get in the way of a good story so i dont know the details. But. Being a mobile service guy i do answer calls on the road. Its all bluetooth and I dont have to touch the phone. The structure at work is if its not urgent its an email and you see it when you see it. If it is important its a phone call but its not a social call. I have a windscreen mount so i can see how many emails I get between jobs, i can't read them but atleast it can depress me on the drive between sites. If I leave one site on an hour drive to the next and get a call to turn back or for an emergency call out then thats what the bluetooth is for. Not that anything can be done about it but we have one service guy on his p plates and he cannot answer whilst driving and wont because he will lose his licence on the spot. Its extremely annoying from a work perspective but he is doing the right thing so you cant argue with it. I only have my work phone connected to the ute so on the weekends when i leave that phone at home if my personal phone rings i dont bother to answer. It can't be that important. Personal calls are more distracting.
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There is a lot of studies that indicate that a legal handsfree conversation is just as distracting as holding your phone. From what I have read over the years having a conversation with a passenger is not as distracting as a phone call, before everyone rips in to me google it.
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You can clearly tell they're distracted, because their speed is 20km/h under, and they're wandering. Watched a Lube-Mobile van this arvo - he must have been a European, as he was taking with both his hands off the wheel and gesturing to his passenger, all while cruising the M7 in the right lane doing 80-85, completely oblivious to the people all pouring around him down the left. If I'm having a conversation with passengers, my eyes stay on the road - it's not that hard to prioritise your attention. |
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When the mother says to go right then says I meant left Or wanted to go the ring road instead of a straight direction Directions from her drive me nuts and she is banned from directions now and GPS only now. See her a few times a year but when we drive the anxiety goes up. Even has the nerve to say the GPS is wrong. Lol All good now. Praise the GPS Sent from my ASUS_Z00AD using Tapatalk
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I'm not too concerned about talking and driving, cops do it all the time. Its texting that is the real problem.
I do find it bizarre that for all the enforcement activities directed against driver distractions like phones, and we still have ADRs for manufacturers to comply with despite no longer having a local industry, yet we don't have rules about the way touch screens function??? I cant cancel warnings/etc in any way other than the touch screen. how is this not considered dangerous but physically interacting with my phone is? |
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We managed quite well before mobile phones.
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As for "driving on the phone", when I get into the car the first thing that happens is my phone gets plugged into the USB and put in the centre console.. I don't even look at the thing when I'm in the car... I have a a button on my steering wheel for both Picking up and Hanging up the phone and, if I need to call someone, another button to use voice control... Depending on how long I hold the button for I can either use Holdens voice system or Siri... My heads up display tells me who is calling as well so I don't have to A) move my hands off the wheel or B) look at the centre screen to know who is calling... Bloody great system...
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But then we were all in the same boat, now a tradie or contractor working from his car would be totally uncompetitive without a mobile.
Back then urgent meant some time by the end of the week, today it means in the next hour.
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Seems all they do is cause teenage kids to gather around it, like the old days of phone boxes. |
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