Ben Roberts-Smith, Judge says he is a murderer

[Trevor 57]

Again 'woke' people calling for blood with no criminal outcome

The media need to stop giving these ****ers a voice. I wonder if they think how they would feel if the shoe was on the other foot, but probably they just wouldn't get it

[Trevor 57]

I really wonder what all you naysayers will do if the DPP or whoever decide there is not enough evidence to secure a conviction and not press any charges

[b0son]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

I really wonder what all you naysayers will do if the DPP or whoever decide there is not enough evidence to secure a conviction and not press any charges

OJ Simpson was acquitted. Doesnt mean anybody believes the verdict.

[FairmontGS]

Australian government considers compensation for Afghanistan war crime victims

The Australian government is looking for “a way forward” to compensate families of victims of alleged war crimes in Afghanistan, the defence minister has told legal advocates.

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...an-war-victims

[pottery beige]

https://www.judgments.fedcourt.gov.a...HVuN45EpKjT2eU

[Trevor 57]

There is plenty of inference that he is guilty, take your blinkers off and read some of the posts again

[csv8]

Australia had no right to go into Afghanistan. What was the result ? Taliban are still in control and 42 soldiers killed. For what ?

[zilo]

Originally Posted by csv8

Australia had no right to go into Afghanistan. What was the result ? Taliban are still in control and 42 soldiers killed. For what ? J

Little Johnnie had no choice, Tony and George shook and hung him upside down in the back of the shelter shed at school for his lunch money.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by csv8

He got Australia into Afghanistan. Australia had no right to go into Afghanistan. What was the result ? Taliban are still in control and 42 soldiers killed. For what ?

Well said Cav, spot on

[Interceptor]

BTW guys, PLEASE try to keep it semi civil in here, otherwise I see one of the mods locking this thread

[lra]

Originally Posted by Interceptor

BTW guys, PLEASE try to keep it semi civil in here, otherwise I see one of the mods locking this thread

I don't know why mods haven't deleted some comments which I find offensive.
And yet I have had comments deleted because they did not toe the Ford tinted glasses line.

I find this reporting particularly telling of the attitude towards veterans and ex-ADF members .........
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...99b444576&ei=9

Australia is regressing to the days of chucking red paint on soldiers marching in the street.
It is only a matter of time before something similar happens within the Aus War Memorial.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by lra

I don't know why mods haven't deleted some comments which I find offensive.
And yet I have had comments deleted because they did not toe the Ford tinted glasses line.

I find this reporting particularly telling of the attitude towards veterans and ex-ADF members .........
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...99b444576&ei=9

Australia is regressing to the days of chucking red paint on soldiers marching in the street.
It is only a matter of time before something similar happens within the Aus War Memorial.

Agree with you, Melbourne Shrine of Remembrance and local RSL's have been targeted over the years, just shows you the mentality that walks among us.

[FairmontGS]

The Australian War Memorial chair Kim Beazely, "a former Labor leader and defence minister", prepares to revise the BRS display...

Ben Roberts-Smith: Australian War Memorial to overhaul displays involving ex-soldier

Kim Beazley says AWM acknowledges gravity of defamation decision amid calls to remove exhibits

The Australian War Memorial has acknowledged the “gravity of the decision” in the Ben Roberts-Smith defamation case and says it is considering changes to the displays involving Australia’s most decorated living soldier.

The statement follows calls to remove Roberts-Smith’s uniform from public display at the memorial in Canberra.

The Australian War Memorial chair, Kim Beazley, said on Friday that the federal court ruling involved “a civil legal case” and was “one step in a longer process”.

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...hibits-uniform

[Trevor 57]

Overreaction

What will they do if no charges laid or if charges laid and found not guilty

Gulit driven by the 'Woke' folk, ****ing idiots

What happened to innocent until proven guilty

Good on Kim for not giving in to the ****ing idiots

[zilo]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

Overreaction

What will they do if no charges laid or if charges laid and found not guilty

Gulit driven by the 'Woke' folk, ****ing idiots

What happened to innocent until proven guilty

Good on Kim for not giving in to the ****ing idiots

What will they do if charges laid and found guilty.
Denial driven by experts on a car forum after a judge says he is guilty in a civil case...a judge...not a backyarder fixing a Falcon.
Innocence? phht..tell that to the family of the victim and the clear video evidence and overwhelming testimony of wittnesses.

No chance of him suffering from PTSD that's for sure.

[Interceptor]

Originally Posted by zilo

experts on a car forum

Ahh..... so you are no different to the rest of us after all.

Tell you what..... if you think you can make such a difference over there, why not do so?

[zilo]

Originally Posted by Interceptor

Ahh..... so you are no different to the rest of us after all.

Tell you what..... if you think you can make such a difference over there, why not do so?

Huh? Please explain.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by zilo

What will they do if charges laid and found guilty.
Denial driven by experts on a car forum after a judge says he is guilty in a civil case...a judge...not a backyarder fixing a Falcon.
Innocence? phht..tell that to the family of the victim and the clear video evidence and overwhelming testimony of wittnesses.

No chance of him suffering from PTSD that's for sure.

Jesus Christ, where was he found guilty, he took out a defamation and lost, no guilty charge

FFS

[zilo]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

Jesus Christ, where was he found guilty, he took out a defamation and lost, no guilty charge

FFS

that's easy for a clear thinking individual when preented with facts.

He lost a defamation trial where the JUDGE said he is guilty because the evidence presented sunstantiated the allegation that he murdered an unarmed man and covered it up.

Kerry stokes has stopped his support...$$$$$$

Hope that clears it up for you.

It will progress to the next stage in the fullness of time.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by zilo

He lost a defamation trial where the JUDGE said he is guilty because the evidence presented sunstantiated the allegation that he murdered an unarmed man and covered it up

Please show me in the Judges summation where the Judge said he was guilty (beyond any reasonable doubt - a pre-requisite in Australia) of war crimes

[lra]

"The Australian War Memorial has acknowledged the “gravity of the decision” in the Ben Roberts-Smith defamation case and says it is considering changes to the displays involving Australia’s most decorated living soldier.
The statement follows calls to remove Roberts-Smith’s uniform from public display at the memorial in Canberra."

I think that removing the display is preferable to desecration from some inevitable 'look at me' action by a publicity seeking woke luvvie.

[PG2]

Originally Posted by Interceptor

BTW guys, PLEASE try to keep it semi civil in here, otherwise I see one of the mods locking this thread

Guys, I'm going to close it for 24 hours (or thereabouts). It will give everyone a chance to take a deep breath.

I understand that this is a very emotional topic, therefore, some people will have very strong opinions on the matter(s).



Cav...

I want to apologise for having to close the thread, even if it is temporarily, I know just how passionate you are about these sort of things.

[PG2]

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING ANY FURTHER. IT JUST MAY SAVE YOU FROM A POTENTIAL WARNING/BAN OR HAVING THE THREAD CLOSE PERMANENTLY


As promised, the thread is now re-opened.

I have mentioned this before, if you are smashing keys into the keyboard, then maybe consider taking a deep breath and delete what you have typed and start again.

I too, have very strong opinions on this topic but have chosen not to share them on this sort of platform - maybe some others should consider this also.

Finally, everyone, please play nice.

[five 7]

Don't want to go into the why's and where fores but if it ever goes to criminal trial, that the politician/politicians that sent these boys there, they are standing in the dock beside him, they are part of the machine that created and control the SAS, they know full well why these troops exist and what they are capable of. They (SAS) are the big stick/junk yard dog that gets let off the leash, as with a dangerous dog the owner should always get held to account as well.
Politicians are complicit in this, maybe next time if they can be held liable they might think twice before sending troops to places at the beck and call of others.
I'm picking as we speak there will be Australian SAS running around the Ukraine just history repeating its self. Might not be official and probably on secondment to British SAS but they will be there.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by five 7

Don't want to go into the why's and where fores but if it ever goes to criminal trial, that the politician/politicians that sent these boys there, they are standing in the dock beside him, they are part of the machine that created and control the SAS, they know full well why these troops exist and what they are capable of. They (SAS) are the big stick/junk yard dog that gets let off the leash, as with a dangerous dog the owner should always get held to account as well.
Politicians are complicit in this, maybe next time if they can be held liable they might think twice before sending troops to places at the beck and call of others.
I'm picking as we speak there will be Australian SAS running around the Ukraine just history repeating its self. Might not be official and probably on secondment to British SAS but they will be there.

spot on, and Angus Campbell needs to be standing at the 'front' with his troops, something he has never done, he continues to throw them under the bus - a great leader - NOT!!!!

[Trevor 57]

Zilo, back-reading is your friend, or maybe you could just read where I quoted, and I quote "where the JUDGE said he was guilty"

Perhaps you could fight your own battles, you are embarrassing yourself here

[FairmontGS]

Papers chase Roberts-Smith for $10m

The conduct of war hero Ben-Roberts Smith during the defamation “trial of the century” will come under the microscope as the victorious newspapers look to recover more than $10 million in legal costs.

https://www.afr.com/companies/media-...0230607-p5deup

[aussiblue]

Thinks don't look good https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...an/ar-AA1chBfI

Ben Roberts-Smith revealed to be soldier alleged in Brereton inquiry to have directed the killing of an elderly imam in Afghanistan

[TasRanger]

Placing a radio on a body says it all.

[LG17]

Defence forces are sent (rightly or wrongly) into battle to protect our country and others. Those people, regardless of what defence section they are in, are expected to do a thankless job that very few members here could even begin to understand.
When they are finished doing that job and they return home they are expected to assimilate back into society with very little to no help.
They are basically thrown out and left to fend for themselves.
When they are in a battle of any kind they do what they have to do to defeat the enemy including gathering information about them. They are living a life that 99% of us could never understand and yet we dare to judge them by our standards.
It is so wrong.
I don't know how many ex or current servicemen are members on here (except for Cav) but I would like to thank them for what they have done for us.
I will never try to judge their service and what happens by my non-war standards.