AU V8 models: Basic questions answered! - Page 5

KR1STO · 12-09-2010, 08:57 AM

Fair enough...
It still amazes me how many AU V8 questions still don't have 100% answers..!

THanks man.. I'll go do a bit of homework now...!!

Cheers

b2tf · 12-09-2010, 09:00 AM

Just to weigh into the rockers debate, the old black ute had 1.7 YT's off a 220 and it was a 200 motor. The only thing about that car is that it went to Herrods and had a whole heap of work done - it wasnt cammed, but they could have been changed there.

Im not sure whats in the blue ute but I know it's 100% stock, I may even pop the rocker covers off today and have a look. Wouldnt be surprised to see YT 1.7's on there staring back at me as it is a late 02 build.

KR1STO · 12-09-2010, 09:05 AM

So you reckon the late 200's had 1.7 yella terra's Austin..?
I'll be interested in finding out whats in yours...

Cheers mate
Kris

AUIIPURSUIT · 12-09-2010, 05:18 PM

i might do a rocker popper check in my 200.. just to add confusion.

CRAIGAU3220 · 12-09-2010, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KR1STO

So you reckon the late 200's had 1.7 yella terra's Austin..?
I'll be interested in finding out whats in yours...

Cheers mate
Kris

I think you'll find all 200kw donks have 1.7 rockers.

KR1STO · 12-09-2010, 07:28 PM

not all craig...this is the first I've seen...
the ones (3 or 4) that I've seen have had 1.6's..

CRAIGAU3220 · 12-09-2010, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KR1STO

not all craig...this is the first I've seen...
the ones (3 or 4) that I've seen have had 1.6's..

Were the 3 or 4 you have seen actually have 1.6 stamped on them?

Windsor220 · 12-09-2010, 11:16 PM

Well according to all documentation the 200kw units had 1.6 rockers. They also had a slightly bigger cam so it wouldnt make sense for Ford to downgrade the cam with the next series if they were both using 1.7s.

Ford probably just changed parts suppliers.

KR1STO · 13-09-2010, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CRAIGAU3220

Were the 3 or 4 you have seen actually have 1.6 stamped on them?

I can't remember mate.. but they were crane and not yella terra.....

From what I've found out from another S3 V8 owner (ute), it seems that while the sedans were getting the 220kw engine, the utes were getting the 200kw, but, with the bigger roller rockers, (my engine being a S3 xr ute engine) as his is the same, and he's seen others like it..

Again, Austin, I'll be interested to see what yours has..

Cheers

RG · 13-09-2010, 09:13 AM

SII 200kw had Crane 1.6 rockers. 220kw got YT 1.7's. Some late 200 utes got the YT 1.7's as Ford had to use what they had left and it seems they ran out of the 1.6's.

The only way to know if your SIII ute has 1.7's is to pop a rocker cover as there was no science behind what got what.

KR1STO · 13-09-2010, 10:26 AM

So in saying that russ..
What would the benefits (power wise) of the 1.7's on the 200kw engines over the 1.6's..?

RG · 13-09-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KR1STO

So in saying that russ..
What would the benefits (power wise) of the 1.7's on the 200kw engines over the 1.6's..?

The 200 had a bigger cam than the 220 so there's a start, probably all too.

b2tf · 13-09-2010, 01:23 PM

It's all been covered pretty well by the Pugged one above, I didnt get a chance to pop the rocker cover off and have a look yesterday but will try and do so at some stage.

BDA Escort · 19-02-2011, 11:51 AM

hi all. dragging up an old thread here...

wondering if anyone knows the build numbers for AU XR8's?
more specificly, how many S1, 2, & 3's in auto or manual and in each colour.

is just that there's a venom red S2 220kw auto in the family, and i read elsewhere that there were 1954 S2 autos built (but no break down between 200kw and 220kw), and i've now got a silhouette black S1 manual too, and there were 619 S1 manuals built, but i haven't found anything about the colours themselves.

thanks in advance!

EV1LXR8 · 13-05-2011, 08:45 PM

hi i have an au s1 xr8 i have just had a cracked overflow bottle fixed after about 4 months. it is going fine but i am still using water (not coolant just water) is this normal or am i fearing the worst of a blown head gasket??? some help would be great

Grobbo · 13-05-2011, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EV1LXR8

hi i have an au s1 xr8 i have just had a cracked overflow bottle fixed after about 4 months. it is going fine but i am still using water (not coolant just water) is this normal or am i fearing the worst of a blown head gasket??? some help would be great

So you're not running coolant in your radiator?

b2tf · 13-05-2011, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Grobbo

So you're not running coolant in your radiator?

It sounds like it and if this is the case then of course you would use water?

Grobbo · 14-05-2011, 03:20 AM

For those that can't use google:

•Typical symptoms of a blown head gasket may include these: bubbles of air coming up into your radiator (remove cap before starting); a leaking radiator; milkshake-colored oil; overheating; rough running; coolant or oil running from head; spark plug(s) that have a green tint (if green coolant); white-colored or sweet-smelling exhaust.
•White smoke from your tail pipe, or loosing coolant through your overflow. Take the cap off and rev the engine, look for bubbles...
•A dark smell in the radiator. High back pressure coming though your radiator cap.

Sounds like it's not really the easiest diagnosis!

EV1LXR8 · 15-05-2011, 03:33 PM

na im not using coolant atm becausr of when i had the leaking header tank, didnt want to waist lots of money filling with coolant every time i needed to use the car, is there a sure way i can tell if its blown, it doent seem to be affecting the engines performance and the oil is ok, i have noticed that the water boils after a bit or a drive, could it just be steaming out the overflow?

xr8ute · 16-05-2011, 08:59 AM

Check around the front (alloy) timing cover for leaks. They can corrode badly over time, especially when there is no coolant/corrosion inhibitor used...

How many km's has your engine done?

EV1LXR8 · 17-05-2011, 10:31 PM

270 on the clock, i will have a check 2moro after a bit of a drive, just thought id mention that im on gas if that changes things

EV1LXR8 · 18-05-2011, 04:02 PM

thank the lord for all is mighty!!!! its not a blown gasket, there is a leak where the heater hoses join to the firewall, its leaking down the firewall on the inside and into the passenger foot well, could almost go swimming in there lol, so im gonna strip it down this weekend and replace the heater box(maybe just the connection) so thanks for your help, much appreciated

Sharka · 27-09-2011, 08:19 AM

Looking at a 2001 AU2 XR8 manual here in NZ the dealers says the rego states it's a 185kw in one of the engine pictures you can see Tickford wings engraved into throttle body?? so if it's the stock T/B would mean it's 220kw?
It also has one of those horrible twin rear boot spoilers with the black top spoiler which I thought was AU1 style....

Is cheap at 139kms on the clock 18in wheels at 10k NZD(7-8k AUD)but is the RED which I reckon is the worse AU colour...I'm thinking black rims dropped to the ground ,,,maybe a paint tint ??

shiftyxr · 07-11-2011, 07:23 PM

What is the differance between a xr 200kw and a TE 200kw?

trimmaster · 20-11-2011, 10:40 AM

Been looking here and can't find, so don't shoot me if it is here somewhere....but how many AU V8's were made (non XR).
Interested to know if there is a breakdown of forte & fairmonts etc??

RG · 20-11-2011, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by shiftyxr

What is the differance between a xr 200kw and a TE 200kw?

Depends which TE it is. Early ones had alloy heads, late ones had cast iron. Apart from that, not a hell of a lot.

keno49 · 08-08-2012, 12:26 PM

Hi Guys,
I have put AU series 3 XR8 heads, manifold & cam into a my rebuilt 5lt EB2 wagon. I've been told the ECU has to be reprogrammed and I also need a 90mm MAS and I can't appear to find one in Australia. Can some one give me advice on this Thanks from keno49

**auIILTD** · 09-08-2012, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by keno49

Hi Guys,
I have put AU series 3 XR8 heads, manifold & cam into a my rebuilt 5lt EB2 wagon. I've been told the ECU has to be reprogrammed and I also need a 90mm MAS and I can't appear to find one in Australia. Can some one give me advice on this Thanks from keno49

Not sure why you would need a 90mm MAF. No AUs came out with them, so I am guessing your EB MAF would suit. Highly unlikely you will max that one out, hence not needing a 90mm.

As for the tune, It is recommended to get the most out of the modifications that you have made. You have changed the air/fuel conditions of the car with the GT40Ps, cam and manifold. Without a tune, your ecu will provide the same fuel to the engine as it would have in the old configuration (EB), potentially causing it to run lean. Tune recommended.

Good luck
Stu

XH5LWEPN · 11-08-2012, 03:01 AM

Just thought id throw this out there seeing as though this thread popped back up the other day.
I pulled the 200kw engine down out of my AUII XR8 ute tonight to carry out a freshen up.
I got the dial indicator and magnetic stand out and measured the Yella Terra rockers that were fitted to it, and can confirm that they were also 1.7:1 ratio.

BOTTLEDUP · 11-08-2012, 11:14 AM

Agreed Jeff, I've been through all my Crane data, and I cannot find any evidence past or present of Crane making a 1.6:1 ratio pedestal rocker... Only 1.7:1 ratio.