Covid 19 - - Page 69

guzzis3 · 07-05-2020, 03:10 PM

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Where are the moderators when you want them?

People are putting **** on my mate Trump.

Long may he rain, or something like that.

Is that rain golden ? Or was it reins ?

Fed · 07-05-2020, 12:26 PM

I reckon flu vaccination rates would skyrocket if they didn't involve using needles.

**russellw** · 07-05-2020, 03:57 PM

Some countries are starting to make solid inroads into testing.

The Faeroe Islands tested 16.86% of their admittedly small population;
Iceland has tested 15.4% of their even smaller population; and
The UAE has managed to test 12.13% of their quite large (9M) population.

The UK is at 2.1%, the USA at 2.4%, Australia at 2.7%, Russia at 3.1%, NZ and Germany at 3.3%, Italy at 3.8% and Spain at 4.1%.

Plenty of countries, including some badly impacted ones, are still well below 1% like Mexico (0.08), Pakistan (0.10), Brazil (0.16), Ecuador (0.46) and Iran (0.63).

**russellw** · 07-05-2020, 04:29 PM

Apart from statistically disadvantaged countries with small case numbers, Belgium still has the worst case mortality rate with 16.42% of cases resulting in death - followed by the UK (14.956%), France (14.816%) and Italy with 13.411%. The global average is 6.928%.

Again, ignoring statistical anomalies; Qatar has the highest number of cases per 100k of population at 623.8 - followed by Luxembourg (615), Spain (542), Iceland (527) and Ireland with 450. Conversely, 30 countries have less than 1 case per 100k and a further 49 countries have less than 10 per 100k while Australia (26.96) and New Zealand (30.86) are in the lower 60th percentile. The global average is 48.97/100k.

It's a different story for deaths per 100k with Belgium having 71.95, Spain 55.3, Italy 49 and the UK having just over 44. 37 countries have had at least one case with no recorded deaths and a further 100 countries have less than 1 death per 100k of population. The global average is 3.393 and Australia has 0.380 per 100k.

burnz · 07-05-2020, 06:59 PM

https://www.********.com/video/EducLuwuxCod/

here's we go money money money, big pharma trying to pass mandatory immunization..
the WHO is in on it..

CyberWasp · 07-05-2020, 11:08 PM

I am noticing bottlenecks again on the commute home.
There is definitely a noticeable rise in the traffic on the road.
People do not seem to have the same fear of the virus that was present in the beginning.
Social distancing in public is so so. Some people are ignoring it.
We have either weathered the storm or will be all in lock down again in a few weeks.

prydey · 08-05-2020, 10:28 AM

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I am noticing bottlenecks again on the commute home.
There is definitely a noticeable rise in the traffic on the road.
People do not seem to have the same fear of the virus that was present in the beginning.
Social distancing in public is so so. Some people are ignoring it.
We have either weathered the storm or will be all in lock down again in a few weeks.

I'm in SA so admittedly we didn't have the severe level of restrictions of other states, however the traffic still dried up. I think a lot of it was to do with the economic side of things rather than restrictions limiting movement. People no longer having jobs, or working from home or just staying home.
I think now we are seeing signs of the economy starting to come to life again which is leading to more normal volumes of traffic back on the road, rather than restrictions being lifted. Generally people aren't just driving around. Restrictions will limit those who are just out doing non essential shopping but the bulk of traffic is made up of employers and employees going about their business. As annoying as it is, its a good sign. I don't think its a sign of people ignoring restrictions but rather like i said, the economy starting to come back to life.

Franco Cozzo · 08-05-2020, 12:34 PM

ME Bank raided everyone's accounts linked to mortgages

https://www.smh.com.au/business/bank...01-p54oxn.html

If you had money in redraw account it's been taken by ME bank.

**russellw** · 08-05-2020, 10:17 AM

21 new cases for Australia but no deaths yesterday so the CMR drops to 1.407% and active cases to 11%. Victoria had 14 of the new cases, NSW had 3, Queensland 2 and SA, which had been case free for two weeks, had 1.

NZ had one new case and no deaths so the CMR also dropped to 1.410% and active cases to 10.1%.

The UK had a little over 5.5k new cases and 539 deaths. The CMR dropped to 14.81% but active cases are up to 84.9%.

The USA was over 25k new cases again with more than 2k deaths so the CMR rises to 5.922% and active cases to 77.2%.

The trend graph below is cause for concern in the two States impacted and should server as notice that we aren't yet out of the woods.

ute83 · 08-05-2020, 12:02 PM

No restrictions lifted here in vic. Traffic increasing tenfold but.

prydey · 08-05-2020, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ute83

No restrictions lifted here in vic. Traffic increasing tenfold but.

People are allowed to go back to work though

Work Horse · 08-05-2020, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

People are allowed to go back to work though

Yes I think it's a sign some are finding a way to get back to work.

I walk past Huntingdale train station (Melbourne) most mornings with the dog. Car park was always full early pre Covid 19.
Has been almost empty for weeks, about half full this morning.

Huntingdale is the closest station to Monash Uni, no sign of the thousands of students that used it daily.

I'm still able to work each day, I see the traffic is increasing but not nearly what it was pre Covid.

ute83 · 08-05-2020, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

People are allowed to go back to work though

I could be wrong but I don't think anything has changed for us down here.

Citroënbender · 08-05-2020, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ute83

No restrictions lifted here in vic. Traffic increasing tenfold but.

Unsurprising, really. Compliance fatigue; was bound to happen.

prydey · 08-05-2020, 01:24 PM

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Unsurprising, really. Compliance fatigue; was bound to happen.

As mentioned above, I don't believe it's compliance fatigue. Maybe I have a different view on society in general but I think the majority actually do the right thing. The ones you see on the news are not a majority.

Franco Cozzo · 08-05-2020, 01:28 PM

https://www.afr.com/chanticleer/how-...0200506-p54qbd

They closed my beloved degenerate factory Crown Casino but the mighty ASX is still open

I've been having a punt on junk stocks, made a few hundred bucks.

Citroënbender · 08-05-2020, 01:36 PM

Good, now you can afford a replacement AC compressor for the Lebonator.

Franco Cozzo · 08-05-2020, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Citroënbender

Good, now you can afford a replacement AC compressor for the Lebonator.

Just needs a regas

guzzis3 · 08-05-2020, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

https://www.afr.com/chanticleer/how-...0200506-p54qbd

They closed my beloved degenerate factory Crown Casino but the mighty ASX is still open

I've been having a punt on junk stocks, made a few hundred bucks.

You know the difference between Crown and the ASX. If you win on the ASX they tax your profits. And the game at crown is less corrupt...

**GasoLane** · 08-05-2020, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by guzzis3

You know the difference between Crown and the ASX. If you win on the ASX they tax your profits. And the game at crown is less corrupt...

But ASX doesn't ask for proof of age. (Franco only looks about 15

)

MITCHAY · 08-05-2020, 02:16 PM

They have announced a 3 stage lifting of restrictions so basically it seems by July we should be largely open if no major spikes.

So it would probably be stage 1 by end of May. Then if no issues, stage 2 by end of June etc.

I think this plan largely balances economic and health concerns. States will still determine when it actually happens though.

Franco Cozzo · 08-05-2020, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MITCHAY

They have announced a 3 stage lifting of restrictions so basically it seems by July we should be largely open if no major spikes.

So it would probably be stage 1 by end of May. Then if no issues, stage 2 by end of June etc.

I think this plan largely balances economic and health concerns. States will still determine when it actually happens though.

I don't hold much hope for Chairman Dan going easy on us.

The moment another state opens up interstate travel and relaxes restrictions before us we'll be coming over to visit en masse

**russellw** · 08-05-2020, 03:31 PM

Victoria is probably going to be nearly the last State to ease restrictions given the recent upturn in new case rates. The roads have been a lot busier however so people are obviously starting to make their own decisions regardless of the mandates in place.

MITCHAY · 08-05-2020, 05:59 PM

ACT going ahead with changing restrictions from midnight. Basically lifting caps up to between 10 and 30 people on certain restrictions.

https://www.covid19.act.gov.au/news-...ons-8-may-2020

I have noticed the last week a significant increase in traffic so plenty of people getting back to it now.

MercuryT · 08-05-2020, 07:27 PM

Being Tassie I hope restrictions are gradually lifted as reported asap.

I trust medical advice as not my area of knowledge, but whilst limiting deaths and virus spread is obviously extremely important, so is working people's livelihood and maintaining some level of economy for the future.

Hard to balance no doubt, so I certainly don't envy those being entrusted to make the call on what is best.......

JasonACT · 08-05-2020, 08:58 PM

I pick you as being 35ish. I say - change the avatar too.

MITCHAY · 08-05-2020, 08:59 PM

I think the stages that have been announced are enough to wedge the hawks of both sides personally. I know recently it's all over the shop but I still believe most Aussies are moderate especially since we have a better safety net than other countries.

From what I understand, the states have agreed to the stages more or less it is about when they go for it.

To compare to the IT world you start small with less effort and then evaluate the effect it has each thing you do.

If you go big bang it is hard to know what works or not. And in this situation we need to understand that.

So I reckon we have about 2-4 weeks between stages so we can wind back or go earlier.

It is fantasy to just open everything up just as much as it is to keep everything locked down.

I know certain people are saying not that many have not died but they have not died because we made that possible. This is what annoys me about modelling, some take it literally.

JasonACT · 08-05-2020, 09:03 PM

marty351 · 08-05-2020, 09:30 PM

So what's the news about this govco covid monitoring app? Do we still have to download it?

PhilT2 · 08-05-2020, 09:36 PM

Some countries and US states have released figures showing how much higher their death rate (from all causes) is compared to the average of the last few years. Most show a rate higher than that which would be produced by just adding the covid figures to the normal death rate.

If these figures stand up to scrutiny then the "it's just the flu" people are going to look a bit stupid. So are the ones who claim that the deaths from covid are being exaggerated. One exception is Sweden where the death rate is lower than normal. Too early to draw any firm conclusions yet; for many countries this is far from over.