Covid 19 -

[Work Horse]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...11-p551jq.html

Oopsy Daisy!

That person arrived at the demo with Covid, didn't catch it there.

If no one else that attended has caught it after a few weeks, time for Dan to make some serious decisions.

Spectators back at the footy

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Work Horse

That person arrived at the demo with Covid, didn't catch it there.

If no one else that attended has caught it after a few weeks, time for Dan to make some serious decisions.

Spectators back at the footy

That's even worse - public transport to the venue, huge numbers of contacts at the protests, how many did they infect?

Name & shame IMO

[Work Horse]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

That's even worse - public transport to the venue, huge numbers of contacts at the protests, how many did they infect?

Name & shame IMO

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I've got a good idea, if YOU are part of the group that the Chinese virus effects then YOU can self isolate and stay inside away from the rest of us as we go about our day to day lives.

Take some personal responsibility for your own health and well-being if it's going to effect you so badly.

There's 7.8 billion people on this planet, we could use a good clean out, Chinese virus doing it's bit for climate change by reducing world overpopulation.

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Nope - the group who is saying feck everyone else is the tiny percentage of our population who this effects demanding the rest of society stops their lives.

They're causing irreparable damage to our economy, did anyone ask any if our casually employed hospitality staff who are on the knife edge of losing their meal tickets?

We're a first world, rich, DEMOCRACY and like **** I will be having my freedoms infringed upon because of a minority group wants everyone else to bend to their will.

Go live in China if you want to have this ridiculous assertion of a 'lockdown', you can join the 2 million Muslims they've got undergoing 'education' in 'school'.

You've changed your tune..

[Cav]

Originally Posted by Work Horse

That person arrived at the demo with Covid, didn't catch it there.

If no one else that attended has caught it after a few weeks, time for Dan to make some serious decisions.

Spectators back at the footy

I'm sure those demonstrators would have Scomo's Covid 19 app on their phones so it will be easy to trace people.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Cav

I'm sure those demonstrators would have Scomo's Covid 19 app on their phones so it will be easy to trace people.

They won’t, half are professional protesters, and I’ll let you guess what else they support / protest against.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...11-p551jq.html

Oopsy Daisy!

Idiot virtue signalers. They have already extended the current level of restrictions for at least a week because of these dip****s. It will probably blow out even further now

[guzzis3]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

Don’t know if it includes flu?... but this is interesting...
https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/2562261/

That's a really interesting animation. I wonder though what that bar is between conflict and hepatitis.

Other points of interest. Alcohol kills more people than all other recreational drugs combined.

Suicide twice as many as homicide and more even than malaria!

[Charliewool]

Originally Posted by guzzis3

That's a really interesting animation. I wonder though what that bar is between conflict and hepatitis.

Other points of interest. Alcohol kills more people than all other recreational drugs combined.

Suicide twice as many as homicide and more even than malaria!

According to medical abbreviations it is “gastrointestinal inferior disease”?

[russellw]

9 new cases for Australia and no deaths so CMR drops to 1.400% and active cases drop to 422 (5.8%).

No new cases or deaths for NZ so CMR is unchanged and active cases remain at zero.

The UK had just over 1.2k new cases and 151 deaths so the CMR is back down to 14.165%.

Just under 21k new cases in the USA yesterday and 982 deaths sees CMR down to 5.572% and active cases down to 55.3% although the raw number of active cases is rising.

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 7.5M;
Russia passes 0.5M cases;
Brazil completes 1M tests and India 5M;

Mauritania (156), Ivory Coast (223), Israel (214), Nigeria (681), Oman (1,067), Argentina (1,386), Saudi Arabia (3,733), Mexico (4,883) and Pakistan (5,834) all recorded new daily highs, those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

[T3rminator]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-5299...d-UT2VXtzvMe0A

Amazing how scientists can track and trace virus to such detailed level. Every country should be doing this so that the spread can be mapped.

[CoupeKing]

[Work Horse]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Another anti-vaccine advocate having her say.

Lets have a balanced discussion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPqfY2F2KR8

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Work Horse

Another anti-vaccine advocate having her say.

Lets have a balanced discussion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPqfY2F2KR8

So whats the story now? China created the virus, that infects mainly people of colour, deliberate spread it around, so that certain individuals and companies in the US can get filthy rich?

[T3rminator]

This one is especially for Franco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlFj53XuCRI


Funny this came up as a recommendation after the video Work Horse posted.

[MITCHAY]

ACT relaxing restrictions again next week with max 100 people while considering the distancing rules.

I said to the blokes at work a while back as soon as we can go back to the pubs, we need to get on the **** ASAP.

They were gobsmacked since I have dogged everything since I've been there.

I will put a pre-condition on it that you have to come back to work, not WFH though. I don't want fly ins.

No way I would survive if my boss was not there. It's so quiet when either of us are not there talking **** so I'm told

[CoupeKing]

The therapy industry is gonna explode from here on in and after November.

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

The therapy industry is gonna explode from here on in and after November.

I'm sure it could regardless of what way it goes

However Australia's verdict will not be until 2022 on a normal timeline.

I do have have to give kudos to Scomo for finally wedging the states by saying you can't have international visitors if you keep your state borders closed. And it makes perfect sense.

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

I'm sure it could regardless of what way it goes

However Australia's verdict will not be until 2022 on a normal timeline.

Trump could be President until 20th January...


2025 - let that sink in.

As always, woteva happens in America hits our shores. It used to take years, even decades - now almost overnight.

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Trump could be President until 20th January...


2025 - let that sink in.

As always, woteva happens in America hits our shores. It used to take years, even decades - now almost overnight.

Pre-Covid 19 and these protests I reckon the odds were on his side, but after that I don't know. On face value it is looking like lights out but then there was 2016.

At least we have the option to vote in or out our representatives even if it isn't perfect in our countries.

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Pre-Covid 19 and these protests I reckon the odds were on his side, but after that I don't know. On face value it is looking like lights out but then there was 2016.

Considering all the riots/protesting/marches with no spacial distancing, how can they complain about the Trump rallies re-commencing within 2 weeks?

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

The therapy industry is gonna explode from here on in and after November.

Bottle shops, psychiatrists, GP’s, it’s all good for the economy 👍

[PG2]

Guys and Gals.

This is a thread about COVID-19 not about Trump. I understand that Trump may be mentioned if it relates to COVID-19 but keep on topic please.

[MITCHAY]

It might be luck but we have truly smashed the curve in Australia.

Here in Canberra we have setup a field hospital to cope with extra demand that has had 0 patients so far.

Apparently it cost $23m which seems like a ****en lot to me but will give more capacity if and when another wave comes.

[DJR-351]

[russellw]

5 new cases for Australia and no deaths so CMR drops to 1.399% and active cases drop to 405 (5.6%).

No new cases or deaths for NZ so CMR is unchanged and active cases remain at zero.

The UK had just over 1.5k new cases and 202 deaths so the CMR is down to 14.120%.

Just over 23k new cases in the USA yesterday and 904 deaths sees CMR down to 5.553% but active cases rise to 55.4%.

Other notable points:
Global new cases set a daily high of 133,933;
Asia recorded a high for daily new cases with 39,329;
Africa recorded a high for daily new cases with 7,462;
The USA completes 23M tests, Russia 14M and Canada 2M;

Ivory Coast (280), Israel (226), Ethiopia (245), Nepal (448), Bolivia (884), Oman (1,117), Argentina (1,391), Egypt (1,577), South Africa (3,359), Bangladesh (3,471), Saudi Arabia (3,921), Pakistan(6,397) and Chile (6,754) all recorded new daily highs, those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

[T3rminator]

A family member from the US sent me this. I'm not registered to the Washington Post so can't validate the content.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...ebsite-states/



So based on the guidance below, it would appear that "short term" mass gatherings outdoors, such as protests that we've seen in Australia, is not as risky as being stuck indoors with a few hundred people screaming and carrying on...which is what is going to happen at those election campaigns. . Not sure how something like the MCG would be classified, where it is a bit of mix. We do know the Italy outbreak was kicked off from a football match in Bergamo where 40,000 attended.



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The US Government’s Centre for Disease Control (GCDC) has made official the emerging scientific evidence on Coronavirus Transmission




Very low risk of transmission from surfaces.

Very low risk from outdoor activities.

Very high risk from gatherings in enclosed spaces like offices, religious places, cinema halls or theatres.

These findings that have been emerging for a while need to be applied by people to manage the situation in the best manner possible.

Time to reduce panic about surface transmission, and time to not be too eager to go back to office.

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WHAT IT TAKES TO INFECT

To successfully infect you, the virus needs a dose of ....

~1000 viral particles (vp)

The typical environmental spread of activities: -

Breath: ~20 vp minute

Speaking: ~200 vp minute

Cough: ~200 million vp (enough of these may remain in air for hours in a poorly ventilated environment)

Sneeze: ~200 million vp

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FORMULA

Successful infection = Exposure to Virus Time SCENARIOS

* Being in vicinity of someone (with 6 ft distancing) Low risk, if limit to less than 45 minutes

* Talking to someone face to face (with mask): Low risk if limit to less than 4 minutes.

* Someone passing you walking/jogging/cycling: Low risk

* Well-ventilated spaces, with distancing: Low risk (limit duration)

* Grocery shopping: Medium risk (can reduce to low by limiting time and following hygiene)

* Indoor spaces: High risk

* Public Bathrooms/Common areas: High fomite/surface transfer risk.

* Restaurants: High risk (can reduce to Medium risk by sitting outdoors with distancing and surface touch awareness)

* Workplaces/Schools (even with social distancing): Very high risk, including high fomite transfer risk.

* Parties/Weddings: Very high risk.

* Business networking/conferences: Very high risk.

* Arenas/Concerts/Cinemas: Very high risk.

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RISK FACTORS

The bottom line factors you can use to calculate your risk are...

- indoors vs outdoors

- narrow spaces vs large, ventilated spaces.

- high people density vs low density

- longer exposure vs brief exposure.

The risks will be higher for former scenarios.

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[russellw]

12 new cases for Australia and no deaths so CMR drops to 1.397% and active cases drop to 388 (5.3%).

No new cases or deaths for NZ so CMR is unchanged and active cases remain at zero.

The UK had just over 1.4k new cases and 181 deaths so the CMR is down to 14.153%.

Just over 27k new cases in the USA yesterday and 791 deaths sees CMR down to 5.519% and active cases drop to 54.7% although the numbers continue to increase.

Other notable points:
Africa recorded a high for daily new cases with 8,072;
The USA completes 24M tests and Belgium1M;

Yemen (73), Ethiopia (251), Panama (848), Argentina (1,531), Egypt (1,677), Colombia (1,888), South Africa (3,809), Mexico (5,222) and Pakistan (6,472) all recorded new daily highs, those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

[Tickford.]

Top 20 countries by the number of new infections:




This thing is far from done.

[cheap]

C19 making a comeback in China this time through Beijing. World needs to watch this very closely and not repeat the mistakes from early 2020.

And the lies from the CCP continue that China is not in the top 20 list.

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by cheap

And the lies from the CCP continue that China is not in the top 20 list.

As of 14 June 19:03 AEST, China is just outside the top 20 with 57 new cases.



Of the 57 new cases, 36 are from Beijing, where a large wholesale food market at the centre of the outbreak has been closed and nearby housing estates put under lockdown.