fpv have coyote, hsv's return fire ?

f6.au · 06-09-2010, 08:46 AM

hsv have the ls3 atm. will that be enough in stock form to take it to coyote S/C ... NO... so what steps do you think hsv will take in order to keep up... what about gxp positioning now that we know how gs is structured.

i dont think the ls3 is going anywhere...

p.s mods i reckon this thread should stay her since its regarding coyote... but sorry if it isn't and you guys disagree with me

Chilliman · 06-09-2010, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by f6.au

hsv have the ls3 atm. will that be enough in stock form to take it to coyote S/C ... NO... so what steps do you think hsv will take in order to keep up... what about gxp positioning now that we know how gs is structured.

i dont think the ls3 is going anywhere...

p.s mods i reckon this thread should stay her since its regarding coyote... but sorry if it isn't and you guys disagree with me

Details of HSV E3 in the Pub.

Wretched · 06-09-2010, 09:13 AM

LS3 has a lot of potential in it. They also have LSA....

grafpak · 06-09-2010, 09:15 AM

heard from a holden worker chev motor wont pass euro v ..so could be a new motor coming ??.s/charged 6.2l maloo ute .hmmmnnn.

burnz · 06-09-2010, 09:20 AM

L99/LSA V8's
3.0/3.6 Bi-Turbo
are in the pipeline, its possable that holden will delete the V8's.. depending on sales of V6's..

irlewy86 · 06-09-2010, 10:02 AM

They'll have to drop the 8 when they go FWD in 2015.

Turbo 6 is good but doesn't hold a candle to the mighty Barra.

Good times to be in the blue corner.

f6.au · 06-09-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chilliman

Details of HSV E3 in the Pub.

Thanks for the heads up mate

King Nothing · 06-09-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by irlewy86

They'll have to drop the 8 when they go FWD in 2015.

Turbo 6 is good but doesn't hold a candle to the mighty Barra.

Good times to be in the blue corner.

Huh? Something I missed?

Gobes32 · 06-09-2010, 11:52 AM

Holden will release whatever Chevrolet do. So if Chevrolet have to make the LS motors pass euro 5, then Holden will import that motor.

burnz · 06-09-2010, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by irlewy86

They'll have to drop the 8 when they go FWD in 2015.

Turbo 6 is good but doesn't hold a candle to the mighty Barra.

Good times to be in the blue corner.

GM have plenty of FWD V8's in their line up..
as for holden, will not be going FWD as their's no case for it..
if anything they "may" go AWD, but no mention of it..

irlewy86 · 06-09-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by burnz

GM have plenty of FWD V8's in their line up..
as for holden, will not be going FWD as their's no case for it..
if anything they "may" go AWD, but no mention of it..

They have the one out of the Impala, and its hardly worth writing home about let alone putting it on a ship all the way to Australia. It kinda reminds me of the 253.

There is no place for Zeta in new GM

irlewy86 · 06-09-2010, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by King Nothing

Huh? Something I missed?

No, I've just got my "Wheels" magazine sponsored journalism degree. It fell out the bottom of my cornflakes packet this morning and now I'm qualified to make grossly inadequate, uneducated and unsolicited claims. I also get a discount on NRMA membership.

T3ts50 · 06-09-2010, 01:11 PM

I remember hearing that the next gen V8 in the Corvettes will be a 5.5l with DI. HSV will probably pick this up.

In the meantime, I cant see them doing anything to drastic, maybe a tune to match the FPV's in VF.

As for LSA/LS9, I think they would be too costly to compete with the GT's, with the engines being about the same price as an LS7.

flappist · 06-09-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gobes32

Holden will release whatever Chevrolet do. So if Chevrolet have to make the LS motors pass euro 5, then Holden will import that motor.

Chevrolet have nothing to do with it. It is just a model series brand name like Holden, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Vaxhall, Opel etc. (Well with the exception of the huge "bowtie badge export to Australia division" that some say is what has actually kept GM afloat during the GFC).

The engines are designed, developed and manufactured by General Motors Engine Division (GMED).

Of course "Powered by GMED" is nowhere near as fully sick as "It's got the chevvy engine mate"....

Gobes32 · 06-09-2010, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

Chevrolet have nothing to do with it. It is just a model series brand name like Holden, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Vaxhall, Opel etc. (Well with the exception of the huge "bowtie badge export to Australia division" that some say is what has actually kept GM afloat during the GFC).

The engines are designed, developed and manufactured by General Motors Engine Division (GMED).

Of course "Powered by GMED" is nowhere near as fully sick as "It's got the chevvy engine mate"....

Point taken, my bad......

OZQUAD44 · 06-09-2010, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by irlewy86

No, I've just got my "Wheels" magazine sponsored journalism degree. It fell out the bottom of my cornflakes packet this morning and now I'm qualified to make grossly inadequate, uneducated and unsolicited claims. I also get a discount on NRMA membership.

Noice... Very funny!

vztrt · 06-09-2010, 09:57 PM

A thread I started back in April that gives the options that Holden will have.

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11295593

chevypower · 07-09-2010, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by irlewy86

They have the one out of the Impala, and its hardly worth writing home about let alone putting it on a ship all the way to Australia. It kinda reminds me of the 253.

There is no place for Zeta in new GM

Eh? What's wrong with the 5.3? It's not the most powerful V8 engine in the world, but it's far from being gutless. It's also one of those most economical V8 engines you could ever have. It's really a good engine.

Jimmyd · 07-09-2010, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by irlewy86

No, I've just got my "Wheels" magazine sponsored journalism degree. It fell out the bottom of my cornflakes packet this morning and now I'm qualified to make grossly inadequate, uneducated and unsolicited claims. I also get a discount on NRMA membership.

Bullsh*t - can't possibly be a Holden Monthly -, er, I mean "Wheels" magazine Journalisim Degree - you are clearly the Blue Corner.

Everything else is true though.....

Cheers

James

burnz · 07-09-2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chevypower

Eh? What's wrong with the 5.3? It's not the most powerful V8 engine in the world, but it's far from being gutless. It's also one of those most economical V8 engines you could ever have. It's really a good engine.

253cid (4.2L)..an old holden motor, deleted from sevice a long time ago..

irlewy86 · 07-09-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by chevypower

Eh? What's wrong with the 5.3? It's not the most powerful V8 engine in the world, but it's far from being gutless. It's also one of those most economical V8 engines you could ever have. It's really a good engine.

Nothing wrong with the engine, but I'm yet to meet anyone who's driven an Impala and praised it.

castellan · 09-09-2010, 03:31 PM

I was telling a one eyed holden idiot about the new 5.0L V8 coyote. he just started ranting and raving that it was no good. i said it's got 4 valves per cyl and it's DOHC and it's alloy block & heads pumpes out 307 KW and 528 NM. and the s/c 335 KW and 570 NM. and it a nice small engine and it's light. he did not want to know about it and just started on about how much power some of the GEN 3 & 4 have made on the drag strip.

I said i would imagine the coyote would be able to pull some big revs. his reply was the road runner will always have it over the coyote.
And he is now putting in a bigger cam in his gen3 just to be on the safe side.

388cube_edxr8 · 09-09-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by irlewy86

I'm yet to meet anyone who's driven an Impala and praised it.

I have - it had a 327.

irlewy86 · 09-09-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 388cube_edxr8

I have - it had a 327.

Did you like it more so say a VY SS?

388cube_edxr8 · 09-09-2010, 04:40 PM

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Did you like it more so say a VY SS?

Well it definitely has more class, but as far as motors go the VY SS is a little more to my liking.

Stattic · 09-09-2010, 06:52 PM

When I was much younger I thought a chevvy was like a super expensive fantastic sports brand like Ferrari because of the way bogans revered it. Then i realised it's just another average car brand..

mytgxl · 10-09-2010, 10:36 AM

As per normal they will probably stick a chev in it! That`s the only way they can make a holden go!

glavas · 10-09-2010, 01:06 PM

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As per normal they will probably stick a chev in it! That`s the only way they can make a holden go!

and by chev you mean GM????? and seeing how they are both part of GM whats your point?

mytgxl · 10-09-2010, 02:21 PM

Why can`t GMH australia make there own motor? instead of borrowing GM`s all the time?

Ryan · 10-09-2010, 02:33 PM

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Why can`t GMH australia make there own motor? instead of borrowing GM`s all the time?

R&D, and cost. There's no real reason for Holden to design, and build their own V8s when it's easier to get one from GM's line up.