Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 17-07-2010, 12:14 AM   #1
IH8HSV
XR6T 400kw(well one day!)
 
IH8HSV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Toodyay W.A.
Posts: 1,008
Default Car to buy for 6+ people

Hi fellas...

After finding out that we are having a new edition to the family in 8 months, Im forced to sell our AU to accommodate the family.

I would appreciate some suggestions on what you can buy for around $10000 that comfortably holds 2 adults, 3 kids, and a baby.

Ive always had sedans and never thought that one day I would be forced to buy a ''nana mover''. So I have no idea where to start.

A friend suggested a Tarago - which I know nothing about - and some Kia thing. Ive also been told you can buy a Falcon wagon which has 2 seats in the boot. I have never heard of this and wouldn't think it would be too comfortable.

Any suggestions much appreciated

Cheers,

__________________
If it Vibrates, rattles, squeaks or knocks - then it must be a Territory
IH8HSV is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 12:17 AM   #2
yift
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,819
Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: Countless sensible, accurate mechanical advice on all things Falcon and Territory. 
Default

stretch the budget and go for a honda odessey, bloody fantastci vehicle, puts anything in its class to shame on reliability aswell as build quality. servicing can be a little steep depending on the service but repairs are not as frequent as a tarago or kia equivilant (especially the kia).
yift is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 12:21 AM   #3
nt0351
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
nt0351's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: sydney
Posts: 641
Default

get yourself an 8 seat landcruiser ,prado or diesel pajero ,..built tough & very reliable dont buy a kia carnival they are rubbish
nt0351 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 12:25 AM   #4
snappy
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
snappy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Geelong
Posts: 2,374
Default

There heaps of cars your just going to be limited to around models of the late 90's or high ks .
jeeps chrokee's
ford explorers
vw transporters
kia carnaval
tarago
mitibishi delica - pajero
nissan patrol
honda oddesy
well you get the picture just got to carsales and type 7 seater in kewords and then set your max price
snappy is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 12:31 AM   #5
FordFalconBF
2008 BF Futura
 
FordFalconBF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Adelaide, S.A.
Posts: 595
Default

Just buy a normal car and put the rest in the boot... that's what I do.
__________________
2008 BF Falcon Futura
2009 BF Falcon Wagon Dedicated LPG

Previous Cars:
2003 BA Falcon Wagon Dedicated LPG
1999 Ford Fairlane Ghia
XF Fairmont Ghia
Escort MK2 RS2000 Replica
FordFalconBF is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 12:37 AM   #6
naddis01
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
 
naddis01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,680
Default

What ever you do, do not buy an early Kia Carnival. They are known for their engine failures. As above if you are looking for a 7 seat people mover I would suggest a Honda Odeysey. Other notable suggestions would be a Mitsubishi Nimbus or Toyota Tarago. Otherwise check out the 7 seat SUV/4x4s.

My sisters have a Tarago and a Chrysler Voyager. Both are happy with their vehicles, however they aren't car people and I have never driven them. The Voyager seems very well equiped.
naddis01 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 12:42 AM   #7
Yellow_Festiva
Where to next??
 
Yellow_Festiva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 8,893
Default

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...rticleID=50142
Yellow_Festiva is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 12:43 AM   #8
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 48,865
Default

+1 on stretching the budget for an Odyssey
Franco Cozzo is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 10:15 AM   #9
prydey
Rob
 
prydey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Woodcroft S.A.
Posts: 21,383
Default

go the tarago. my brother has one and they are fantastic on the juice. barely 10L/100km round town. he bought it in qld and we both drove it home and i was surprised at how well it drove. you don't feel like you are driving a van as the drivers seat isn't above the wheels like most are.
prydey is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 10:19 AM   #10
mick457
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
mick457's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: kingaroy QLD
Posts: 1,276
Default

what about a 7 seater terry?

clicky
__________________
my build thread

Performace
DBA 4000s, Blue power intake, Whiteline swaybars, FG manifold, PWR Radiator, king springs low, Monroe gt sport
DJR bobtail, LSD 3.46, 20%UD
Pacemaker 4490s, Venom cat, redback catback
mick457 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 10:24 AM   #11
XR Martin
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
XR Martin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Canberra Region
Posts: 8,890
Default

Put a bench seat in your AU, or do it to a wagon.

Hell for less than $10k you could get a BF Wagon and have a bench seat installed. $10k Tarago would be pretty old and high mileage.
__________________
2016 FGX XR8 Sprint, 6speed manual, Kinetic Blue #170

2004 BA wagon RTV project.

1998 EL XR8, Auto, Hot Chilli Red

1993 ED XR6, 5speed, Polynesian Green. 1 of 329. Retired

1968 XT Falcon 500 wagon, 3 on the tree, 3.6L. Patina project.
XR Martin is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 10:48 AM   #12
JK EX CHASER
Formally kotevski22
 
JK EX CHASER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Shellharbour
Posts: 696
Default

Go for the Odyssey or a Hino bus,that way you can charge them at the door and feel good that you made a good decision.
JK EX CHASER is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 10:49 AM   #13
[CaSeY]
Starter Motor
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 21
Default

we've had a kia carnival since new, great car, lots of room, comfortable, dunno what is with some1 saying their engines like to blow up ours hasnt shown any problems and we use it a hell of a lot, even for towing lol
__________________
[CaSeY] is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 11:31 AM   #14
Windsor220
Now Fordless
 
Windsor220's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Fremantle, WA
Posts: 3,611
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by [CaSeY]
we've had a kia carnival since new, great car, lots of room, comfortable, dunno what is with some1 saying their engines like to blow up ours hasnt shown any problems and we use it a hell of a lot, even for towing lol
Depends what age it is I think the newer ones dont have the engine issue. If you got an older one, go open the bonnet and have a look in radiator overflow tank. Most likely a nice milkshake in there.
Windsor220 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 11:35 AM   #15
rancidpunx
FPV GTR
 
rancidpunx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: South Island High Country
Posts: 2,355
Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: For technical contribution to all things car-care related. And helping/advising forum members with the best possible information. 
Default

The problem with those big people carrier things, is that most use cheapo materials inside. The Kia is one of the worse, although the Grand Carnival is a little better over the original but both better than a Zafira. Id stay away and stretch to a 4by of sorts. You also dont have to get in every day and wonder what your life has come down to now that your driving an ugly boring people mover.
__________________
- FPV GT RSpec -
- Chill SZ Territory Titanium -
The Family Bus
- Veridian Green PJ Ranger XLT -
The Work Truck

rancidpunx is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 11:40 AM   #16
TURBOTAXI
Turbo Falcon Fiend
 
TURBOTAXI's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Far West NSW
Posts: 3,203
Default

Buy a tarago with a shagged engine and fit a 1UZFE or a newer one ie - 3UZFE.
Sleeper city, room to have a game of touch footy and capacity for any more additions!

Thats what I was going to do if we had a fourth child.
__________________

Too many turbo toys......
2009 FG F6 Nitro LPI LPG 290rwkw on LPG.
2005 BAMKII XR6 Turbo with LPG (ex HWP 255,000k's and counting)
Honda 2001 CR500E Road registered CR500
Honda 1985 CR500 (the one with the arm ripping power)
DT200r regoed Hack
Yamaha IT/YZ 465 Vinduro rocket
Imported IT465 and 490 back up bikes
VF1000R mid 80's racer built by HMR
Honda CR480 Air cooled project road cafe racer.
T88 Turbo XT Falcon project with 351 Cleveland (mothballed)
Plus the rest.

.
TURBOTAXI is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 11:43 AM   #17
Mr Hardware
Flairs - Truckers Delight
 
Mr Hardware's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Brisbane Northside Likes: Opposite Lock
Posts: 5,731
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: The excellent how to on LPG jet cleaning. 
Default

In 8 months i'm sure you'd be able to get a 7-seat rwd tezza for that sortta money
__________________
Current: Silhouette Black 2007 SY Ford Territory TX RWD 7-seater "Black Banger"
2006-2016: Regency Red 2000 AUII Ford Falcon Forte Automatic Sedan Tickford LPG "Millennium Falcon"
Mr Hardware is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 11:51 AM   #18
naddis01
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
 
naddis01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,680
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by [CaSeY]
we've had a kia carnival since new, great car, lots of room, comfortable, dunno what is with some1 saying their engines like to blow up ours hasnt shown any problems and we use it a hell of a lot, even for towing lol
The problem is with the first ones that came out.

Google Kia Carnival engine problems.
naddis01 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 11:57 AM   #19
Bucknaked
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Bucknaked's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: ACT
Posts: 11,647
Default

$10k for a Terry?
__________________
FG2 XR6T
KIA Cerato
2022 Kawasaki Z900
Bucknaked is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 12:03 PM   #20
Mechan1k
Moderator
Donating Member1
 
Mechan1k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Kenthurst
Posts: 40,387
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Brings a wealth of knowledge to the forums and is frequently giving helpful advice. Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: Always willing to help out with technical information. 
Default

Be careful with the AWD Taragos ... shaft from the transfer case to the front diffs eventually fail ... and they are bloody expensive.

Finding a $10K 7-seater Territory is going to be hard ... even in 8 months time.

The Odyssey is probably going to be the best bet ... although they slacked off with the middle row seat with a lap belt only for the centre only though.
Mechan1k is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 12:08 PM   #21
galaxy xr8
Giddy up.
 
galaxy xr8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Kramerica Industries.
Posts: 15,615
Default

My inlaw's have just purchased a Chrysler Voyager grand ??, 2nd hand, I went for a drive in it around town, V6 it seemed like it liked the juice a little according to the readout 14+ avg, but it was the 1st week they had it so not really sure on that, it has lot's of creature comfort's that's for sure.
galaxy xr8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 12:13 PM   #22
InTrail
Regular Member
 
InTrail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 219
Default

Friends bought a Mitsubishi Grandis for about $10k less than an equivalent spec/age Odyssey. They seem to be an unknown quantity as this one had been sitting in the dealers yard for a few months even though it was spotless and well priced.

They're very happy with it, and still have a couple of years of factory warranty to run.
__________________
Out of lease ......... what next?
InTrail is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 12:54 PM   #23
IH8HSV
XR6T 400kw(well one day!)
 
IH8HSV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Toodyay W.A.
Posts: 1,008
Default

Hi fellas,

Thanks for your suggestions. Im just going through the cars you have mentioned now and trying to see what they look like on car sales.

Cheers.
__________________
If it Vibrates, rattles, squeaks or knocks - then it must be a Territory
IH8HSV is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 01:05 PM   #24
Jason[98.EL]
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Jason[98.EL]'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: GEELONG
Posts: 7,946
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Windsor220
Depends what age it is I think the newer ones dont have the engine issue. If you got an older one, go open the bonnet and have a look in radiator overflow tank. Most likely a nice milkshake in there.
Correct the early ones had the head of the v6 in them under the fire wall and because of this they are prone to blowing head gaskets

the later models were designed different ant dont have the issue

Jason
__________________
no longer have a ford but a ford man at heart
R.I.P 98 EL MAY YOU HAVE A GOOD LIFE IN FALCON HEAVEN

[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Jason[98.EL] is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 01:45 PM   #25
au adam
Regular Member
 
au adam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Mexico Vic
Posts: 356
Default

I hired a Carnival in QLD not so long ago and it was great,3.8lt V6 5spd auto and HEAPS of room The thing had heaps of power and would light up the tyres with ease.
My neighbour has just got one the same and they love it.They traded their Mazda MPV 7 seater and the Carnival kills it for room.
au adam is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 02:34 PM   #26
Windsor220
Now Fordless
 
Windsor220's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Fremantle, WA
Posts: 3,611
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by InTrail
Friends bought a Mitsubishi Grandis for about $10k less than an equivalent spec/age Odyssey. They seem to be an unknown quantity as this one had been sitting in the dealers yard for a few months even though it was spotless and well priced.

They're very happy with it, and still have a couple of years of factory warranty to run.
Grandis were quite underrated. Always scored well against the competition but never seems to sell that much. Bullet proof reliability and not a bad drive for a people mover.
I would get one of these,Tarago or an Odyssey if you want to spend the extra coin. Steer clear of the older Carnivals and Zafira.

4WDs are an option too. Could get a 2000 NM Pajero for about 10k. Gives you something to take offroad if you ever wanted and drive much nicer on the road than a Landcruiser or Patrol. Think the Territories would be a bit expensive atm.
Windsor220 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 02:35 PM   #27
Dezza
Parts bin special
 
Dezza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Narre Warren, Vic
Posts: 8,275
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by IH8HSV
Ive also been told you can buy a Falcon wagon which has 2 seats in the boot. I have never heard of this and wouldn't think it would be too comfortable.
My parents previously had an EBII wagon with a 3rd row seat (3 in the back) making it an 8 seater. It was a fantastic car but the back seat was more for kids. Once we started to hit our teens, we basically outgrew it. For children it was great though!
__________________
Weekender 1964 US Falcon Futura convertible - Rangoon Red
260 Windsor V8, 4 speed manual, LHD, Electronic ignition, Mustang wheels
https://fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11470868

Daily 2014 SZII Territory diesel - basic runabout

Previous Cars 1990 EAII Fairmont Ghia - Tickford engine, 5 speed, SVO wheels, bodykit, much more
2000 AUII Fairmont - XR wheels, Ghia interior
2010 FG XR50T ute - XR8 bonnet, Streetfighter intake
Dezza is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 05:02 PM   #28
TheInterceptor
Cruising...
 
TheInterceptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Perth
Posts: 3,819
Default

My suggestion is a Mitubishi Delica series 2 and beyond, 7-8 seater, 4x4 (its an actual 4by), can get in diesel or v6 ulp, acres of room, lwb has a better-than-your-average van boot, also can get in high roof with plenty of goodies. All for around 10K+.
Its a whole lot of car for that sorta money i reckon.
__________________
FBT '98
BA XT '04
F100 4x4 '82

Subaru Outback '02
TheInterceptor is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 05:09 PM   #29
jamesson1980
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
jamesson1980's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Somerville, Victoria
Posts: 704
Default

I frequently see 6+ people in a fully sick VS Calais cruisin Chapel St.
But, yes, I'd go for the Territory if they do come down to your price bracket by the time the little one arrives
__________________
customer: "My car seems to be changing colour and growing wings"
Ford Service: "That's normal, they all do that after about 10,000km


2009 FG XR6, Ego Paint, Darkest possible tint, Sunroof, Black Vic number plates. No performance mods. Born To Be Mild
jamesson1980 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-07-2010, 05:12 PM   #30
Brazen
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Brazen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,876
Default

Definatley suggest a Nimbus or Grandis, solid cars. I would never buy a Toyota second-hand - too much Toyota Tax.
Brazen is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 10:24 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL