Gear Box Problem

[frd906]

Hey guys, need some help,

I just put a 180, 000 kms box into my au, now, it goes into 1st and 2nd gear, but no 3rd or 4th, its doesnt make no noises,

Its full of oil and that, but it just wont hold the gears, keeps popping out,

Now the orignal oil in it was a blacky browny colour

Any help would be wonderfull, i have the guy i bought the box off finding me another one, but i thought id ask he first

Cheers Matt

[frd906]

Another thought, I wouldnt of triggerd limp home mode would i ????

[Mr Hardware]

no, a dead box doesn't necessarily trigger limp home mode, especially if 3rd is gone!!

also your box is dead.

[frd906]

more alloy for the scrap bin. lollol cheers

[JC]

Limp home mode is 3rd. Black/brown is not a good colour for trans fluid. Red or reddy brown is what you want.

[frd906]

oh well back to the drawing board. my mech has a au 2 xr6 5 speed comming for wrecking on the weeknd, buts its a series 2, might drop into ford and pick there brains about getting my ecu flashed

[frd906]

ITS WORKING

Was in limp home mode

Because the oil pressure switch was buggerd, it was telling the ecu not to allow it out of second gear, hence the reason for slipping out

[Mr Hardware]

thats not limp home mode
thats some different mode altogether

also
jimboomba is spelt jimboomba

[frd906]

lol i havent botherd chaning my location, well was definatly cause by the oil pressure switch,

goes like the clappers

[Mont5.0]

Originally Posted by Mr Hardware

also
jimboomba is spelt jimboomba

.......... ........looks like the same spelling to me.

[broken_suave]

Yeah, but FRD906 did have his Location set as: Jimbomba..

Mr Hardware was just pointing out his typo..

[frd906]

least my mech sold the problem for me

[frd906]

well the problem is back agian, was working fine last night no problem, come this morning and its back to being rooted,

im over this lol, really am

[Mr Hardware]

Originally Posted by Mr Hardware

also your box is dead.

also your box is dead.

[frd906]

thanks,

oh well, on a bright note guys im taking the gear box to my wrecker and getting another one in for exchange, when he gets another car in for wrecking

[Mr Hardware]

yeah
we used to do the wreckers trick with the cabs
more often than not the box would play up within a week
and even when they did last, 80,000klms was considered a 'good run'.
cost in time and general stuffing around made us just write off wreckers boxes as a joke
cos for $1300 you can get a proper box rebuild that time and time again would last for at least 370k, if not more like 440k.

[frd906]

i am considering a rebuilt one, but im getting one for nothing so i can play the game agian of out comes the box and in goes the box

[JC]

Originally Posted by frd906

i am considering a rebuilt one, but im getting one for nothing so i can play the game agian of out comes the box and in goes the box

You can use any 4 speed box back to EB if you want to.

[frd906]

yeh i no, but dosent matter im getting another one for nothing, wasted 8 litres of oil in a rooted box

[The Monty]

You do know they take 11L of oil dont you?

[GS608]

Originally Posted by The Monty

You do know they take 11L of oil dont you?

[frd906]

No i put in 8 and half litres of oil and it was full to the brim, couldnt get not more in

[RG]

Originally Posted by frd906

No i put in 8 and half litres of oil and it was full to the brim, couldnt get not more in

That's why it's slipping then I'd say.

They take 11, get under it and see if it's still full.

[frd906]

i put 2 full bottles of oil in, 4 litres, equals eight, took it for a drive, no 3rd or 4th, went and bought another bottle, only could fit in another half a litre, and this was going throught the process, like, p/r/d/n, then agian,

Took it for a drive and nothing

You have to be doing 110 to get it to go into 3rd gear

[FreddyDUZ747]

was the convertor empty when you put the trans in?

[frd906]

Converter was empty

[frd906]

Just doesnt want to go in 3rd or 4th, dosent even want to do it manualy, strange thing is, it goes into, P<R<N<D but takes a very slow process to go in,

Theres no leaks or anything of the sort

When we pulled the pan off, it didnt look healthy at all, was very very black, so i am making a guess, seeing though it came out of a 98 fairmont, its either never had a service or its been used for towing

[The Monty]

The problem is, you have just filled it up with 8 L of fluid. With topping it up, you have effectively contaminated the new fluid with the old, and the reactions between different fluids, as you can see, can be pretty much catastrophic.
If you get another box, get it properly flushed and serviced by a trans shop, spend the huge $300, and they will 1: be able to tell you the condition of the box, as you are no expert, and really dont know what a bad box will look like. And 2: leave you with a freshly serviced and fully flushed box to put in your car.
If you try and do things the cheap way, your going to loose out in the long run.
IFirst thing I do when getting parts off any car at the wreckers is check that everything has decent used, or freshish oil it, if it doesnt, I dont pull parts off it, as they obviously dont care about the car.
Spend the money, get it done properly.

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by The Monty

The problem is, you have just filled it up with 8 L of fluid. With topping it up, you have effectively contaminated the new fluid with the old, and the reactions between different fluids, as you can see, can be pretty much catastrophic.
If you get another box, get it properly flushed and serviced by a trans shop, spend the huge $300, and they will 1: be able to tell you the condition of the box, as you are no expert, and really dont know what a bad box will look like. And 2: leave you with a freshly serviced and fully flushed box to put in your car.
If you try and do things the cheap way, your going to loose out in the long run.
IFirst thing I do when getting parts off any car at the wreckers is check that everything has decent used, or freshish oil it, if it doesnt, I dont pull parts off it, as they obviously dont care about the car.
Spend the money, get it done properly.

Never a truer word spoken. I too used to be a skimp on spending cash on parts for cars. If I could do it myself and save $20 I would, until disaster struck. Now I always get a pro to sort it out and pay the extra for peace of mind.

frd906 - just get it done properly. It will be the most hassle free amount of money you have spent. While the trans dudes are doing your car, you can earn the extra in overtime to pay for it.

[frd906]

NO luck at the auctions today, so im still on the hunt for one, theres a guy wrecking a series 2 au xr6 about hour away from me, has a auto, so i might drop in on the weekend, as its still driveable and take it around the block