Covid 19 -

[Yellow_Festiva]

China just doing their usual thing...

Wuhan doctor who was among the first to alert other medics to the spread of coronavirus 'goes missing' amid fears she has been detained for speaking out

A Wuhan doctor who was among the first to alert other medics to the spread of coronavirus has disappeared sparking concerns that she has been detained, reports suggest.

Dr Ai Fen said she faced 'unprecedented, extremely harsh reprimanded' by officials at Wuhan Central Hospital after she shared a picture of a patient report labelled 'SARS coronavirus'.

The image was widely circulated and made its way to whistle-blower Li Wenliang who raised the alarm about the bug, which has killed more than 41,000 people worldwide.

Dr Li was reprimanded by authorities for 'illegally spreading untruthful information online'.

Dr Ai gave an interview to a Chinese magazine criticising the hospital's management for dismissing the early warnings of the coronavirus but has not been seen since, 60 Minutes Australia reported.

After the show's investigation aired, a post on the doctor's Weibo account - a social media platform similar to Twitter - shared a picture with the caption: 'A river. A bridge. A road. A clock chime,' RFA reports.

Her rumoured disappearance comes after criticism was levvied at the Chinese government for lying and covering up key information during virtually every stage of its coronavirus response.

Beijing initially tried to cover up the outbreak by punishing medics who discovered it, denying it could spread person-to-person and delaying a lockdown of affected regions - meaning early opportunities to control the spread were lost.

Then, once the virus began spreading, the Communist Party began censoring public information about it and spread disinformation overseas - including suggesting that US troops could have been the initial carriers.

Even now, prominent politicians have warned that infection and death totals being reported by the regime are likely to be wrong - with locals in the epicenter of Wuhan suggesting the true tolls could be ten times higher.

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https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/coron...?ocid=msedgntp

[burnz]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

China just doing their usual thing...



https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/coron...?ocid=msedgntp

that doctor was killed months ago, apparently from the virus..

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by burnz

that doctor was killed months ago, apparently from the virus..

The virus has the ability to also change the gender of their host!?!?!?

What other freaky excrement are they up to!

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

China just doing their usual thing...



https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/coron...?ocid=msedgntp

This also aged real well:

https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152?s=19

Who'd trust any 'Chinese investigation'

World Health Organisation is CCP's fake news mouthpiece.

With all the children going to be born through people banging out of boredom it should be mandatory to name them all 'Wuhan'

[asagaai]

The source of Covid 19 discovered:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_yR...CpSaQ_IFbw3wdQ

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by asagaai

The source of Covid 19 discovered:

I believe that video was found to be from a restaurant outside of China, like Bhutan or Burma.

Edit, found this article:

https://m.thechronicle.com.au/news/t...video/3930404/

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[asagaai]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

I believe that video was found to be from a restaurant outside of China, like Bhutan or Burma.

Edit, found this article:

https://m.thechronicle.com.au/news/t...video/3930404/

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Yeah- my daughter sent it to me and I almost dry wretched watching it. So I thought I would share the experience- did not actually believe it was the source.

[BENT_8]

Fatality rate starting to creep up now, expect it to get worse, many people on ventilators that won't survive extubation when the time comes.
Read a piece supposedly written by a frontline doctor in the US that said 84% of ventilated patients don't survive extubation as the lungs are beyond supporting normal function and the elderly can only be ventilated for so long before it introduces additional complications, not good at all.

[Pis-ton broke]

the founding virus doctor was a chinese male, and died of the virus. before he died, he was detained, questioned and charged.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by Pis-ton broke

the founding virus doctor was a chinese male, and died of the virus. before he died, he was detained, questioned and charged.

I know, the article I posted was about a female doctor

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[burnz]

sign of the times

[roddy1960]

Am I the only one or is anybody else going insane over the saturation of preaching by Federal and State Government people

WE GET IT....All they're going to do is drive us mad with frustration with ever more confusing restrictions and closures . Even within the 'rules' it's confusing not least with visiting of family members and such .

All they need to do is sent every household a few key rules to observe on what happens in writing should they be required to self isolate and penalties for breaches of that . Also some commonsense social distancing requirements outside of work and shopping etc needs for the rest of us which is the vast majority.

Also really important IMO is a more respectful acceptance that 99.9% of Australians do understand how dangerous this disease is.

Clearly spell out the penalties of basic rules breaches , but allow us some semblance of normality to use our brains while trying to cope with all of this .

PLEASE !!!!!!!!!

[cheap]

Living in Poverty
Domestic violence
More money for the arts
Social distancing
Flattening the curve
Support for backpackers

All worthy and we get the message BUT, there is SFA on the TV except endless sensational diatribe on nearly every channel. This morning my non-C19 viewing included: some crap gardening show, Tom and Jerry and MacGyver.

Now that the feds have gone total socialist mode, why don’t they instruct the TV channels to put some entertainment back on free to air! Or else reconsider the one slab of beer per day as it will not be enough to numb the boredom.

Note: at least I have a pool table and each night the family shoots pool for a few hours but that will wear off.

[DOC]

Originally Posted by cheap

why don’t they instruct the TV channels to put some entertainment back on free to air! Or else reconsider the one slab of beer per day as it will not be enough to numb the boredom..

you will be ok they are putting home and away back on next week, so all will be calm in the house again.

people will be able to get a dose of Alf and the river boys nightly, how good will that be.

[Charliewool]

Originally Posted by DOC

you will be ok they are putting home and away back on next week, so all will be calm in the house again.

people will be able to get a dose of Alf and the river boys nightly, how good will that be.

As an Aussie living afar... possibly the best news in the thread!
(I thought the River boys were long gone though??)




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[Pis-ton broke]

Originally Posted by cheap

All worthy and we get the message BUT, there is SFA on the TV except endless sensational diatribe on nearly every channel. This morning my non-C19 viewing included: some crap gardening show, Tom and Jerry and MacGyver.

Now that the feds have gone total socialist mode, why don’t they instruct the TV channels to put some entertainment back on free to air! Or else reconsider the one slab of beer per day as it will not be enough to numb the boredom.

Note: at least I have a pool table and each night the family shoots pool for a few hours but that will wear off.

i hooked up my ladtop to my tv and got a wireless mouse/keyboard, it opens up your viewing. ie, free movies ,youtube, forums, porno, better news, play music off youtube while doing stuff , and 3 terabytes of movies in storage. i,m laid out on my lounge right now.

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by Pis-ton broke

i hooked up my ladtop to my tv and got a wireless mouse/keyboard, it opens up your viewing. ie, free movies ,youtube, forums, porno, better news, play music off youtube while doing stuff , and 3 terabytes of movies in storage. i,m laid out on my lounge right now.

meh ive been prepping for a disaster like this for years
i dont have a tv i have a HTPC (home theater pc) with a fta tv card the display being a projector
and a second pc thats set up as a NAS unit full of movies and recorded tv shows i never got round to watching for when the net goes down
all i have to do is push the bar fridge in from the shed and im settled in for each day

[prydey]

Originally Posted by roddy1960

Am I the only one or is anybody else going insane over the saturation of preaching by Federal and State Government people

WE GET IT....All they're going to do is drive us mad with frustration with ever more confusing restrictions and closures . Even within the 'rules' it's confusing not least with visiting of family members and such .

All they need to do is sent every household a few key rules to observe on what happens in writing should they be required to self isolate and penalties for breaches of that . Also some commonsense social distancing requirements outside of work and shopping etc needs for the rest of us which is the vast majority.

Also really important IMO is a more respectful acceptance that 99.9% of Australians do understand how dangerous this disease is.

Clearly spell out the penalties of basic rules breaches , but allow us some semblance of normality to use our brains while trying to cope with all of this .

PLEASE !!!!!!!!!

I don't agree Roddy. I think there are still a lot of people that don't get it and/or just don't care.

Even in your own post you mention 'visiting family' which is fine if they are in need of 'care' but if its just 'socialising' then it comes under non essential travel. People just need to reign it in for a while. Go to work or sit at home and go out only for essential shopping/doc visits etc. Just suck it up. We're all in it together.

I'm not sure people fully understand how lethal the 'potential' is of the virus. Yes, the numbers aren't as bad statistically as other viruses we've had before, but we are only at the beginning. Australia being an island has the potential to handle it better than other larger continents but it relies on everyone doing their bit.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by prydey

I'm not sure people fully understand how lethal the 'potential' is of the virus. Yes, the numbers aren't as bad statistically as other viruses we've had before, but we are only at the beginning. Australia being an island has the potential to handle it better than other larger continents but it relies on everyone doing their bit.

Agreed, you constantly hear and see people make comparisons with the normal yearly flu season to down play the spread and mortality rate of COVID but what they fail to realise is that whilst the normal flu season does infect more and kill more people, it is allowed to spread freely amongst the population whereas COVID is only being kept in check by unprecedented social distancing measures.
If it was allowed the same opportunities to spread as the normal flu, it would be out of control already.

If you look at a world map which highlights the spread and level of outbreak you see that the majority of hard hit countries are just coming out of their Winter months, so the colder northern conditions would assist the virus. We're still on the tail end of a fairly warm, dry Summer/Autumn and so whilst our spread doesn't look anything like those in other regions, we're yet to experience the conditions which bring about our regular flu season.
We are probably lucky that its hit us when it did and not in 3 months as those maps could be quite different without the lead in we've had in Australia.

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by Bent8

Go outside and live your life... we are being played BIG TIME !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpFIPL8_tXY

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Agreed, you constantly hear and see people make comparisons with the normal yearly flu season to down play the spread and mortality rate of COVID but what they fail to realise is that whilst the normal flu season does infect more and kill more people, it is allowed to spread freely amongst the population whereas COVID is only being kept in check by unprecedented social distancing measures.
If it was allowed the same opportunities to spread as the normal flu, it would be out of control already.

I was like WTF.. until I realised you both have the same username!
Two members with Bent 8 as their UN, but with views at opposite ends of the spectrum.

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by prydey

I don't agree Roddy. I think there are still a lot of people that don't get it and/or just don't care.

Even in your own post you mention 'visiting family' which is fine if they are in need of 'care' but if its just 'socialising' then it comes under non essential travel. People just need to reign it in for a while. Go to work or sit at home and go out only for essential shopping/doc visits etc. Just suck it up. We're all in it together.

I'm not sure people fully understand how lethal the 'potential' is of the virus. Yes, the numbers aren't as bad statistically as other viruses we've had before, but we are only at the beginning. Australia being an island has the potential to handle it better than other larger continents but it relies on everyone doing their bit.

In our state, the wild west, we probably have the most relaxed rules regarding visiting family. It doesn't need to be essential, it can be for socialising, provided it's direct family and social distancing is practiced. So glad we dont live in a Police state like Pigtoria and NSW.

I don't accept your premise the virus is 'lethal'. Lethal to everyone? Not so, the statistics are proving this. I'm in my late 40's and have zero concern about catching it. I take my daily routine of Vit A, C and D, well above the RDI's ( which are BS), eath healthy, exercise and get sun light. Pretty much everything the government is not telling the public to do.

I'd like to think that those at risk do the right thing and stay at home and practice social isolation. It's the pandering to the minority and vulnerable that's caused the economy to crash. Pretty disgraceful by all accounts and some in MSM are beginning to discuss this. The government better have not over reacted and destroyed the economy based on the advice of false modelling and information from the bed wetters in health agencies. The WHO has proven time and time again to be the fraud organisation it is.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Romulus

In our state, the wild west, we probably have the most relaxed rules regarding visiting family. It doesn't need to be essential, it can be for socialising, provided it's direct family and social distancing is practiced. So glad we dont live in a Police state like Pigtoria and NSW.

I don't accept your premise the virus is 'lethal'. Lethal to everyone? Not so, the statistics are proving this. I'm in my late 40's and have zero concern about catching it. I take my daily routine of Vit A, C and D, well above the RDI's ( which are BS), eath healthy, exercise and get sun light. Pretty much everything the government is not telling the public to do.

I'd like to think that those at risk do the right thing and stay at home and practice social isolation. It's the pandering to the minority and vulnerable that's caused the economy to crash. Pretty disgraceful by all accounts and some in MSM are beginning to discuss this. The government better have not over reacted and destroyed the economy based on the advice of false modelling and information from the bed wetters in health agencies. The WHO has proven time and time again to be the fraud organisation it is.

Well you've highlighted you have no idea how a virus works and also have no idea of the reasons behind the restrictions.

It's not about you, or the individual. It's about everyone else.

As for how legal it is, you missed where I said 'potential'.

[roddy1960]

Originally Posted by prydey

I don't agree Roddy. I think there are still a lot of people that don't get it and/or just don't care.

Even in your own post you mention 'visiting family' which is fine if they are in need of 'care' but if its just 'socialising' then it comes under non essential travel. People just need to reign it in for a while. Go to work or sit at home and go out only for essential shopping/doc visits etc. Just suck it up. We're all in it together.

I'm not sure people fully understand how lethal the 'potential' is of the virus. Yes, the numbers aren't as bad statistically as other viruses we've had before, but we are only at the beginning. Australia being an island has the potential to handle it better than other larger continents but it relies on everyone doing their bit.

I can honestly say I haven't met anybody yet who doesn't care..Possible exception is little kids ,and only because they just don't comprehend it . My point is ...keep it simple . don't flood us with never ending facts and warnings because IMO that'll cause the sensory overload and the attitude in the finish that it's it all getting a bit much to pay any attention and switch off altogether. Not yet of course but what if this bombardment of stuff goes on for six months or more.? It's got to be handled with a lot of care and attention to prolonged periods of the inability to have something like a bit of normality . Can you see my long term concern in that regard ?

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by roddy1960

I can honestly say I haven't met anybody yet who doesn't care..Possible exception is little kids ,and only because they just don't comprehend it . My point is ...keep it simple . don't flood us with never ending facts and warnings because IMO that'll cause the sensory overload and the attitude in the finish that it's it all getting a bit much to pay any attention and switch off altogether. Not yet of course but what if this bombardment of stuff goes on for six months or more.? It's got to be handled with a lot of care and attention to prolonged periods of the inability to have something like a bit of normality . Can you see my long term concern in that regard ?

I get where you're coming from Roddy, but its up to the individual how much they let in.
From my own perspective I was captivated by it to a certain degree, in the beginning I was watching every announcement made and the Fox COVID channel was on constantly, I've since toned it down a bit as much of it is either irrelevant to my part of the country or the same old stuff on a loop.
My Wife was over it after a week, every time she saw the COVID channel on she'd roll her eyes and walk out of the room.
I guess that's the beauty of choice, for those who want to keep up 24/7 theres a dedicated channel and for those who don't you just switch off, its easier with Fox, especially since they've opened up all their channels for no extra cost.
I think so long as someone in you're close knit group is keeping up to date with the changes which have certainly slowed down in the last week or so, then you can keep informed without the saturation.

[Polyal]

So even with the restrictions in the SUpermarkets are you guys seeing a slow reduction in available stock? Coles frozen shelves were looking slim today.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by Polyal

So even with the restrictions in the SUpermarkets are you guys seeing a slow reduction in available stock? Coles frozen shelves were looking slim today.

Big time.

Pasta, sugar, flour, paper towels, toilet paper, antibacterial hand wash, antibacterial wipes and detol / disinfectant is still near impossible to get.

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[Pis-ton broke]

went to woolies yesterday. stacks of fruit and veg, meats were almost gone, lots of bread.

paste ,rice, pasta sauce,tinned tomato's. not muck left, @ 10am, s,w,sydney.

i feel sorry for big families, and isolated country people.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by Pis-ton broke

went to woolies yesterday. stacks of fruit and veg, meats were almost gone, lots of bread.

paste ,rice, pasta sauce,tinned tomato's. not muck left, @ 10am, s,w,sydney.

i feel sorry for big families, and isolated country people.

SW Sydney? Travelling a bit for your groceries?

My parents are in Bargo ;)

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by Pis-ton broke

i feel sorry for big families, and isolated country people.

We are a family of 6 and the restrictions are a PIA as we have to now shop multiple times during the week....I understand they want to cut bulk buying but surely I can flash the medicare card and prove its not all for myself.

Its just interesting, all this chat about food supplies being fine but the distribution channels must be struggling?

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by Polyal

We are a family of 6 and the restrictions are a PIA as we have to now shop multiple times during the week....I understand they want to cut bulk buying but surely I can flash the medicare card and prove its not all for myself.

Its just interesting, all this chat about food supplies being fine but the distribution channels must be struggling?

That's actually not a bad idea.

I'm sure no body would be offended if you were asked to provide ID and a medicare card to prove the qty of family members they are buying for.

I'm also buying for my family as well as a few elderly people and have to buy stuff then put it in the car then return to buy more.

One pimple faced 15 year old tried to pull me up for doing that with toilet paper.... Asked me if I had just been in 5 minuted before to buy the same item. I said no, but then again it's 1 per transaction so who are they to play SJW when in actual fact I'm following their own rules.