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http://www.leftlanenews.com/lincoln-...resurface.html
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I wonder if FoA have had any involvement in this (if indeed the 'rumour' has some truth to it). We know there are Mustang mules getting about with CB IRS and forged alloy double wishbone front suspension, and that Interceptor concept of a few years ago had IRS as well - with alloy control arms. Could make the next announcement from FoA rather interesting.
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No longer a Uni student..
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Here is the original article the other references.
http://www.fordinsidenews.com/forums...Flagship-Sedan Quote:
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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The F150 has a live rear axle, the Expedition which shares the same chassis has IRS. That said, there are too many maybes here. Maybe they will build the car, and if they do, maybe it will share the Mustang platform. Maybe it will be from the next Mustang, who knows?
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Hurts to say it, but if it's a "limo flagship", then why does it matter which end is doing the driving? I'm sure Mr Big sitting in the back isn't going to know or care where the drive is coming from, as long as it's up to the luxury standards required...
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Clearly it would have to be based on next gen Mustang. Makes no sense to base it on something based from 2005 when it will possibly go on sale somewhere around 2015 and not get a major revision until after 2020.
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Maybe it will look something like this ....
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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wasnt that concept a precursor to the previous us design language centred around the 3 bar grille
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Funny how there is design jobs going at FoA aswell...
IRS RWD...Global platforms...large sedans... Only one country in fords empire does that now...
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You dig, we stick!
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![]() Seriously, you hit it in one. The way I see it, and to add to your way of thought, for the past forty years Falcon has been unique to Australia and designed in Australia, made on a shoe-string budget, but the next Falcon will finally go one better - designed in Australia using global resources and a fat, juicy budget. This story (thanks Warrior) is what we suspected may happen after Ford announced they're ready to take Lincoln to the next level, and it ties in well with our interests. |
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Peter Car
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If it was going to be a mega dollar flagship they wouldn't want to use a "cheap" Falcon platform either, you'd have to imagine it would be a clean sheet chock full of alloy bits and all the trimmings that a Falcon couldn't get due to cost. I just can't see them doing it, unless they maybe take the platform, stretch it and replace everything they feel could be an improvement. Just like the DEW98 platform used in Lincoln LS, Thunderbird, Jag S type and eventually highly modified into Jag XF. FoA evaluated it for Falcon but it was too expensive, to much alloy suspension bits which Ford couldn't afford. I remember seeing Lincoln LS evaluation vehicles on the road not long after I started working for Ford, early 2000's. Read a Motortrend article pretty much confirming 2014 Mustang will have Control Blade IRS though. |
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At the end of the day, it comes down to the modules (front, rear suspension units, drivetrains) that make the luxury car "platform", not the chassis and hardpoints. If Lincoln and FoA shared the same bodyshell, they could put whatever modules in it they liked to suit their market and it would suit each other's needs well.
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Would love to see Lincoln penetrate the market here. Maybe they can pick up where the Fairlane left off......
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Yeah Scotty agree with you totally the G6 is nice but its still just a falcon.
I think this is FoA chance to get some real funding if they get off their lazy asses at head office and sell it to the yanks
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Peter Car
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Back then the DEW98 platform had alloy just about everywhere in the suspension, not just a couple of pieces like the FG. Changing everything to suit what they want could end up costing more than a clean sheet. It would definately need to be stretched and possibly be made a tad wider. How bigs an S class compared to a Falcon or Fairlane? |
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Like everything it depends on volume.
If you are selling twice as many units you can get away with making half as much money assuming you spend the same amount on R&D. Turning falcon from an Australia only to a global platofmr sold in every market would have the potential to increase sales 5-10 fold. Its all a matter of scale. If the vehicle is sold globally you can also afford to accept lower volumes locally in the case it is decided to take the product more upmarket. |
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I think Ford Australia will play a big role here, but I don't think any division is going to take 100% responsibility, I think it will be spread globally. That seems to be how they operate now. The chief engineer of the (Canadian-built) 5.0 and 6.2 V8s is British, the 6.7 diesel involved people from Dagenham and is built in Mexico
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