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Old 26-11-2015, 08:13 PM   #1
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Default Electric Aussie SUV on the cards

http://www.carpoint.com.au/news/2015...planned-100354

Interesting. Both planned Aussie car makers SA based.
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Old 27-11-2015, 07:19 AM   #2
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Does anyone else hate the term or abbreviation of "SUV"?
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Does anyone else hate the term or abbreviation of "SUV"?
Like russelw, I prefer his version of the acronym........... Silly Utility Vehicle
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Well that confirms things, Tesla is finished.
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Massive pipe dream that will require Government Funding.

two things I see as an issue for an electric off roader.

Range.

motor in wheel technology, how will that work with river crossings?
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Old 27-11-2015, 01:32 PM   #6
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Massive pipe dream that will require Government Funding.

two things I see as an issue for an electric off roader.

Range.

motor in wheel technology, how will that work with river crossings?
Range is mitigated with an on board generator that puts it out to 1200km

Electric is perfect for mines as they are on site and can be charged overnight. There are no exhaust emissions which are a huge problem for underground mines.

Also electric doesn't need to worry about dust or water as they are completely sealed. Normal combustion engines need to gulp in air and axles don't like water. But electric in wheel motors would be perfect for river crossings, the electric Land Rover defender does it better than the diesel
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Electric is perfect for mines as they are on site and can be charged overnight. There are no exhaust emissions which are a huge problem for underground mines.
Mines do night work, so they would need day cars charging through the night and night cars charging through the day.

They would need to increase the fleet just to compensate for the extra charging time.
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Old 29-11-2015, 01:54 PM   #8
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Default Re: Electric Aussie SUV on the cards

Good point about electric working underground without emissions, hadn't considered that.

And if you can get past the appellation 'SUV', you will see what the guy wants to design is a more what we would call hard core offroader, 4x4 if you like.
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Old 29-11-2015, 02:00 PM   #9
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The dump trucks at the mines have electric generator on their wheels now. If I am not mistaken.
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Old 29-11-2015, 03:06 PM   #10
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More like Stupid Useless Vehicle.

I absolutely hate the idiotic term 'SUV' with a passion. There is absolutely nothing sporty about them, nor are they a utility.

Everything is relative. My X5 handles, stops and goes significantly more 'sportily' than (for example) my mates Pajero. Infact, it handles better than most sedans.

Also, when did the Aussie invention of a 'sedan like cab, with an open load carrying space in the rear' take ownership of the word 'utility'?? I'll accept that the term 'Ute' would be considered specific nomenclature for them, but 'utility'? Don't think so.

My X5 is one of the best vehicles I've ever owned. It's comfortable, seats five adults in comfort, handles well, has excellent vision, goes very well and runs on the smell of an oily rag. There's nothing stupid or useless about it.

Either way....... Haters gonna hate.


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Old 29-11-2015, 04:25 PM   #11
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"if funding can be found to get the project up and running"

This has about as much chance of getting off the ground as I have of becoming the next pope.
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Old 29-11-2015, 05:34 PM   #12
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I'm sorry, but I had to read this several times, rub my eyes, then read it several more times as I couldn't believe what I was reading.

Do you not realise that the word 'ute' is an abbreviation of the word 'utility?'






Perhaps one more reading might've been the charm for you then mate, as you have clearly missed the point.



You are correct in one regard, being that the (vehicle specific) term 'ute' is a derivative of the term 'utility', meaning "the state of being useful, profitable, or beneficial".



A load carrying vehicle with a comfortable cabin space does not own the word 'utility'. Hence manufacturers can feel free to use it in the descriptors of their product if they so choose, regardless of your rather overly developed sense of rage on the issue.



Get it now??



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Out handles most sedans? Maybe a mundane Camry, but I doubt it would hold a candle to a properly sorted sedan like an ssv redline, let alone a sedan in the $100k+ range. You cannot defy physics with a centre of gravity like that.


No, it won't out handle an SSV Redline or an M5. Neither will they in turn out handle a Ferrari F12, does that mean they can't be referred to as 'sporty'?



Nor will any of those vehicles comfortably take me anywhere on soft sand, over dunes to fishing spots that I like to get too. Nor will they tow a boat or caravan 1400k's with minimal effect on fuel economy. Nor will they happily pull stumps out of paddocks all day long, while still providing for a comfortable, user friendly, city friendly vehicle.



Get it?? ..........Utility!!!!



By the by, it's just as competent in the twisties as any baseline Ford, or Holden for that matter, wagon or sedan. Pretty 'sporty' for a 2t+ vehicle with a high centre of gravity I'd say.



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While there are exceptions, most 'suv's' are nothing more than bloated hatches on stilts that are gutless, slow, handle poorly, use more fuel and offer no advantages over a conventional sedan/wagon apart from a higher ride height.


In actual fact, 'most' SUV's offer a (albeit limited) off road capability, far exceeding that of any hatch, sedan or wagon. They do this while being safer, more nimble and more user friendly than any of the hardcore off road vehicles, such as Landcruisers, Prado's or Pajero's etc all this while performing their user friendly all-rounder 'utility' function at a fraction of the cost of those vehicles.



There's that 'utility' word again.



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They are purchased for nothing more than their image, by pretentious people who want to be seen to be keeping up with the Joneses.

Families got by pefectly well for many decades without them. Why are they suddenly such a necessity?


Some are, granted. But speaking as someone who purchased his with a view to owning a car which provided exceptional quality, function, capability and enjoyment AND dare I say it, utility, I can say you are in almost every regard, wrong.



It's also a lot cheaper to own one 'multi-purpose' SUV when you would otherwise need two dedicated vehicles to take care of the same needs.



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Default Re: Electric Aussie SUV on the cards

Another plaything for the latte sipping inner city trendies who will be puzzled and scoff at all us country hicks living hundreds of kilometers from anywhere and how silly we are for not buying stupidly overpriced electric cars with limited ranges and who-knows-what resale value (hint: it will be hopeless...).
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Old 01-12-2015, 05:03 PM   #14
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If nothing else, the proposed 250 km/h top speed is just dreaming. Apart from being pretty unnecessary for an SUV it would be very difficult to achieve with an electric motor, the power drops off too much at higher speeds.
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Old 01-12-2015, 10:16 PM   #15
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Say what you like about SUVs this is the best (vehicle)
we have had in our 50 years of car ownership
the Our daily driver is a Territory Ghia and its refered to
as the wagon or the white as its white
our casual car is a BA Ghia and its not refered to as a
car or sedan but the silver guess why
anyway the Territory is the "car" we are going to keep
its not a status symbol but it is a lot easier to
slide into as its just the right height
we are both in our sixties and it came out just at the right
time in our lifetime
when you get to our age you start to sieze up
and climbing in and out is very important to us
thanks John
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