Global New Ranger Raptor reveal - Page 6

Adamz Ghia · 31-07-2022, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

How does the Code Orange look in person? It's hard to gauge in pictures as they all seem to look different. Some pictures show a bright orange where others look more fire engine red. It was a bit of a leap of faith ordering that colour without seeing it but I didn't want 50 shades of grey, black or white.

It really stands out, the sun was starting to get low but it still looked as bright as the middle of the day. You’ve definitely made a good choice!

Gumboot · 31-07-2022, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

I got an NSC number off the dealer. I had to ask for the number. With that I messaged Ford and they gave me the VIN and build date however I see they are now directing you back to the dealer rather than giving you the info.
I believe you can track the shipping by getting the ship name off the dealer. Then once in the country you can track the delivery to the dealer.

Thank-you that's really helpful.
What is a NSC number? And When is it allocated? When you have a signed contract in the system?

All I have been told so far , is Nov/ Dec delivery.

naddis01 · 31-07-2022, 09:38 PM

I'm sure someone on here will know better than me but I believe it is just a number used in Fords Vista system. From what I understand you should be able to get it once a car has been allocated.

simon varley · 01-08-2022, 03:19 PM

yes, a colleague was given an NSC number too, but I can't tie that to any of our internal systems any more. We did used to be able to track build progress, but I think we are as blind as everyone else now

looking at his number it is just xxQ3 (xx is a number) so I reckon it's the xx th car in quarter 3 so I don't know if it means much

Romulus · 02-08-2022, 02:03 PM

Are Ford releasing a twin turbo petrol in the Ranger for those not interested in diesel? I’ve not been following the thread. Thanks.

Vesper Martini · 02-08-2022, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Romulus

Are Ford releasing a twin turbo petrol in the Ranger for those not interested in diesel? I’ve not been following the thread. Thanks.

Ranger Raptor My Son:
https://www.ford.com.au/showroom/fut...-features.html

Bossxr8 · 02-08-2022, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Romulus

Are Ford releasing a twin turbo petrol in the Ranger for those not interested in diesel? I’ve not been following the thread. Thanks.

In the Raptor, a TTV6, and in the US spec Rangers and some selected other markets they have the option of the 2.3 I4 Ecoboost. That engine isn't sold here though.

VW will be offering it though. But only on the highest spec model. I'm sure Ford will be taking a close look on how it is received. But with diesels in dual cabs making up 99% of the market I think it will be largely ignored. Especially with current fuel prices.

The US Rangers i've driven with that engine go pretty good though. I think 0-100 in mid to high 6's or something like that.

Vesper Martini · 02-08-2022, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

The US Rangers i've driven with that engine go pretty good though. I think 0-100 in mid to high 6's or something like that.

Still Not fast enough for Kypez though..

naddis01 · 02-08-2022, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

In the Raptor, a TTV6, and in the US spec Rangers and some selected other markets they have the option of the 2.3 I4 Ecoboost. That engine isn't sold here though.

VW will be offering it though. But only on the highest spec model. I'm sure Ford will be taking a close look on how it is received. But with diesels in dual cabs making up 99% of the market I think it will be largely ignored. Especially with current fuel prices.

The US Rangers i've driven with that engine go pretty good though. I think 0-100 in mid to high 6's or something like that.

Honestly, if I wasn't getting a Raptor, I would get the Amarok with the 2.3. I feel the styling is much more successful than the non-Raptor versions of the Ranger. I just can't get past the front grille/bumper treatment on the Ranger.

The only problem with the Amarok is they are limiting the 2.3 to the top of the range Aventura instead of including the option on the more desirable (imo) PanAmericana.

Romulus · 03-08-2022, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

In the Raptor, a TTV6, and in the US spec Rangers and some selected other markets they have the option of the 2.3 I4 Ecoboost. That engine isn't sold here though.

VW will be offering it though. But only on the highest spec model. I'm sure Ford will be taking a close look on how it is received. But with diesels in dual cabs making up 99% of the market I think it will be largely ignored. Especially with current fuel prices.

The US Rangers i've driven with that engine go pretty good though. I think 0-100 in mid to high 6's or something like that.

The TTV6 petrol shouldn't be ignored, and should be available on all models offering the V6 Diesel engine option.

With almost 50cpl increase in cost between diesel and petrol the petrol would definitely be a worthy option.

naddis01 · 03-08-2022, 09:40 PM

If they were going to give us a petrol option in the regular Ranger, it will be the 2.3.

Franco Cozzo · 03-08-2022, 11:58 PM

They use that 2.3 in a lot of cars - Focus ST, Mustang and Ranger.

So versatile.

Big_Daz · 04-08-2022, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Romulus

The TTV6 petrol shouldn't be ignored, and should be available on all models offering the V6 Diesel engine option.

With almost 50cpl increase in cost between diesel and petrol the petrol would definitely be a worthy option.

I think they want to keep the TTV6 Petrol for the "Halo" performance model in the Raptor so it has its own DNA...

The 2.3 Ecoboost could be a good option, and could be done. I guess Ford will just have to keep an eye on how VW does with this engine in the Amarok (though having it only on the top spec model will dull the sales probably)...

If it deems it worthwhile, Ford could still bring that motor in at any stage.. The platform is obviously designed to use that motor....

XR Martin · 04-08-2022, 02:21 PM

I think a diesel Raptor 'lite' (like the FX4 Max) is more likely than an Ecoboost Wildtrack.

Ben73 · 05-08-2022, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

I think a diesel Raptor 'lite' (like the FX4 Max) is more likely than an Ecoboost Wildtrack.

That would be a good idea. Have the petrol for the rev heads and a v6 diesel for the people who like off-roading but still want fuel economy on the highway while to the camp site.
I’m just glad they finally put a unique engine in the Raptor

Gumboot · 09-08-2022, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by simon varley

yes, a colleague was given an NSC number too, but I can't tie that to any of our internal systems any more. We did used to be able to track build progress, but I think we are as blind as everyone else now

looking at his number it is just xxQ3 (xx is a number) so I reckon it's the xx th car in quarter 3 so I don't know if it means much

Thanks Simon. I got the nsc number today from the dealer but it is 5 digits not 4.
1st is a number then 4 characters.
Has the nsc number format changed as it is very diferent to the one you listed
What’s the best way to ask ford politely for my vin?
Thanks

naddis01 · 10-08-2022, 03:39 AM

It seems Ford are directing you back to the dealer now for updates on your vehicle. They were giving out updates if you contacted them through Facebook but obviously they were getting too many people asking as they now say to ask your dealer.

In other news it appears many of the Raptors have been delayed by shipping issues. Mine has been pushed back to the 10th of Sept at this stage from the 20th of August. It is built but has not been assigned a ship yet. Going off the Facebook groups I'm in this affects a heap of Raptors.

Gumboot · 11-08-2022, 10:48 AM

I contacted ford and got put through to their ranger team. They said they do not have visibility over the Stock system, therefore, they are unable to confirm a NSC or VIN.

Dealer said they have no visibility.

Maybe I should suggest that ford send welcome emails / status updates to those with orders . That isn't hard but would go a long way..

Bossxr8 · 11-08-2022, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gumboot

I contacted ford and got put through to their ranger team. They said they do not have visibility over the Stock system, therefore, they are unable to confirm a NSC or VIN.

Dealer said they have no visibility.

Maybe I should suggest that ford send welcome emails / status updates to those with orders . That isn't hard but would go a long way..

Something that is being worked on now. They do want to keep waiting buyers informed.

Franco Cozzo · 11-08-2022, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Something that is being worked on now. They do want to keep waiting buyers informed.

Imagine providing customer service to people who have thrown down six figures on a ute - baby steps we're making progress I guess

Hemihunter · 11-08-2022, 12:31 PM

Ford Boss in USA said last week , they want to get away from dealers... i wonder if that strategy will work?

simon varley · 11-08-2022, 07:59 PM

Mercedes have a class action against them here for just that. Okay, not exactly for that, but flat pricing is the first step to not needing a dealership. Way past time imo but it's going to see a lot of headwinds

Franco Cozzo · 12-08-2022, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hemihunter

Ford Boss in USA said last week , they want to get away from dealers... i wonder if that strategy will work?

They do a lot of damage to the brand because of their ****ful behavior.

Manufacturers really need to get their **** together and design better websites first though

383hq · 12-08-2022, 08:41 AM

I think you'll find that in the USA (orders of magnitude more sales then Oz) It is illegal for direct sale of the vehicle to the consumer by the manufacturer in most states.

Being the kings of capitalism, Franchisee laws exist, and being kings of capitalism, they'll find a way around those laws...

I think the dealers are 4-0 v Honda for similar direct modelling changes locally here in Aus. So may not be as simple a change as it looks

jpd80 · 12-08-2022, 11:04 AM

Ford in the US wants to cut dealers out of the negotiated price for BEVs but when the questions
come thick and fast about what’s happened to my order, Ford is either unresponsive or worse,
points those buyers back to dealerships who don’t get paid to sort out Ford’s online mess..

Bossxr8 · 12-08-2022, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 383hq

I think you'll find that in the USA (orders of magnitude more sales then Oz) It is illegal for direct sale of the vehicle to the consumer by the manufacturer in most states.

Being the kings of capitalism, Franchisee laws exist, and being kings of capitalism, they'll find a way around those laws...

I think the dealers are 4-0 v Honda for similar direct modelling changes locally here in Aus. So may not be as simple a change as it looks

Tesla managed to get around the laws. This is why the others are now looking into doing it, because if they can, why can't we.

Gumboot · 12-08-2022, 12:10 PM

It’s the Ineos model with the Grenadier as well. You spec it and pay online and it gets delivered to a dealer who does the pre delivery/ servicing
They are running this model worldwide.

Gumboot · 12-08-2022, 02:15 PM

Back on topic -As the new raptors come with a spray in liner but no tub cover , can anyone recommend a easily removable cover for the tub
I will carrying dirt bikes in the tub, so cant use a hard lid, and I think the wildtrack auto roller would eat up too much room at the headboard where I have to tie the bikes down.
So can anyone recommend a good soft tonneau, they have used before please?
I found this one for the new ranger
https://www.tto.com.au/en-au/jul-202...eau-cover.html
Thanks

naddis01 · 12-08-2022, 02:18 PM

Get an EGR soft tonneau. They are meant to release them in October. It will just roll up to the back window when not needed.

The Tuff Tonneaus one will require you to unclip the tonneau when you open the tailgate. The EGR one will allow you to open the tailgate without touching the tonneau.

Gumboot · 12-08-2022, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by naddis01

Get an EGR soft tonneau. They are meant to release them in October. It will just roll up to the back window when not needed.

The Tuff Tonneaus one will require you to unclip the tonneau when you open the tailgate. The EGR one will allow you to open the tailgate without touching the tonneau.

Awesome thanks for the info, that sounds exactly like what I need 👍