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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Auckland NZ
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Hi all,
I have had my trusty 98 AU Futura for nearly 3 years now, and it's by far the most reliable and comfortable car I have ever owned. However I discovered something today,that I never had experienced before,and it was something that rattled my brain- literally!! It's summer of course here in NZ, like in Oz and pretty damn hot. My car has power front windows and manual winder rears, so I usually travel with the front windows only down,cos I can control them from my drivers side-convenient and more than enough breeze in the cabin. Well, today it was damn hot, and I wound down the rear windows to halfway while parked up in the driveway to keep the car a bit cooler.So I decide to go up the local shops this avo to get a few bevys. I left the rear windows as they were,got in and took off and then lowered the front windows to get a real cool,breezy ride. Well- I **** you not- the absolute wind noise and circulation of air in the cabin even at only 60kms was so bad it actually felt like my brain was shaking.You had to shout to hear yourself.And the "vibrations" in the airflow were actually physically painful to the 'ol mellon! It was very very uncomfortable and I actually stopped halfway,got out and wound the rear windows back up closed! I have never experienced anything like this in any other car I have ever owned. I put it down to the cabin shape and poor airflow dynamics- regardless of what level the rear windows were,if the fronts were wound down too the results were the same.LOUD! But it's a real eye opener- if you haven't experienced this yourself, then try it- I'm sure you will be as staggered as I was. Perhaps the ultimate unfixable design flaw? |
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Its Resonating!
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Sydney, NSW
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get a ute :hihi:
my mums el does that all the time.. |
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Walking with God
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Melbourne
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I used to get it in both my Ford Lasers (89 & 95) as well as my 2 AUs.
Sounds like a chopper is in the car, very loud! LOL! GK
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Cuban... nothing like it
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Same thing in all my cars, Fairmont, Falcon, Explorer, Kluger and Territory.
I believe there is only one make of car that may have had this issues solved, one of the merc models if I remember correctly
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2003 BA XR8
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Sydney
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Oh man, I will have to experiment with this tomorrow
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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every car i have been in does it. I dont believe it happens if you have a sunroof....
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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my AU was the same, the BA is the same.
no other car i have ever owned apart from these 2 have ever had this problem. i got a little bored driving home the other so i put BOTH back windows down in the BA whilst doing 105kmh...........the whole car vibrated so violently i couldnt get the windows up quick enough. every window and panel in the car was pulsing, even the rear view mirror. it got that bad i thought the rear windscreen was going to shatter from it. but it does come in handy when people in the back set are annoying you....crank the music and roll down the rear windows (make sure you lock them so the rear passengers cant put them back up!). |
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Every car I have had has done this, it has to be one of the worst things ever, especially if you only open 1 window, mainly rears. :togo: I found opening the fronts a bit stops it, it has something to with air pressure ( derrr ), going in and out and acting like a subwoofer, its a fact, but i dont know the exact name for it. |
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and everytime the windows are down, the sunroof is up or fully open so maybe theres actually truth to what you've said |
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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yeah my missus bitches about this all the time ..lol, it's really noticable in the front passengers seat with the drivers window fully down and the front passengers window half way down / with both rear windows closed ! . As mentioned , its sounds like a helicopter in the car
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Nup it doesn't happen in the wagon, however with both front windows down, @110 kph, I can get the LHF seatbelt (retracted position) to make a sound similar to putting cards in bicycle spokes.......
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Brisvegas
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Wind down just one rear window at 100k's. It feels like the rest are going to explode. Also if you have both fronts down at 100k's, the seat belt on the passenger side bangs reall loud against the b pillar. Wind the passenger window up 20 mm and it wont do it.
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Melbourne-DEER PARK
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Close windows and put Air con on???
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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i can't believe this! i was just thinking about making a thread like this. i have noticed this everytime i am in the back seat in my dads ba. i think its the design shape. ive been in my girlfriends parents cars, all holdens and non of them have that problem. they have 3 vt commies and they always have the window down. maybe its a falcon thing. maybe they are more refined so they leave the windows up with the aircon. but no joke today we were going 50 and it was pounding in our ears. such an annoying fault.
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Join Date: May 2005
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That's why these cars have air conditioning.
they are intended to be driven with the windows up/aircon on. who cares about airflow inside the cabin.
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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i am not clostrofobic by any means....i just cant travel locked up in a car the windows cracked down 2" is plenty and doesnt have that same buffetting effect |
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Geelong
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Its a similar effect to the way a recorder or whistle works - air is blown over a gap with a sharp edge.
The drumming effect occurs because the gap (window) and cabin are so large that frequency is very low. |
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If you wind down all 4 windows all the way it doesn't do it, or if you wind down just the 2 fronts.
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I rekon every car I have ever been in has done that, but now you mention it I can't ever remember a station wagon donig it,
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A lot of owners manuals even mention it, its that common.
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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And I agree with Wayne, I don't like driving with the windows up either, I like some natural air. Probably explains why my ute and Navara are always dusty inside though...
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Yay for having a sunroof!
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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My wagon does and does not have the problem. It really depends on the height on the rear windows. Today I drove with the front and the rear driver side down. No problems.
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My AU sedan and my parents wagon both have the problem.
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