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Old 03-06-2013, 02:57 PM   #1
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Default oh! no!......she wants a pizza oven!!!

went to the B.I.L.'S place last night for a bit of dinner........yep! he's got a bloody pizza oven.....now of course SHE wants one.

anyone built one, did you do it to a plan, what materials did you use.

I'm familiar with fire bricks and high temp mortar but what about insulation?...necessary or not.

base material, concrete or pavers, fire bricks.

and of course how often do you use it???

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I know a bloke who built one with a stainlees steel base for the whole ovan.
They are not that difficult, I'm told.
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Default Re: oh! no!......she wants a pizza oven!!!

Even Bunnings do one now, fits in ya box trailer, take home, insert fire, wella!

Doesn't just cook pizza either

A mate of mine has one of these, comes in kit form:

http://www.alfrescowoodfiredovens.co...=diy_oven_kits
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I think Masters or Bunnings is selling a chimera with a pizza bit in the top of it.

That could be a compromise.. you know.. "try this, if you do actually use it we'll get a proper one".... ;)
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do a google theres a heap of nfo out there.
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I have a Weber Q bbq, bought a proper pizza stone for it and it cooks great pizzas, also does great roasts etc.... not quite the same as a proper pizza oven maybe but certainly a much cheaper option
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The pizza stone is a must if you don't have a proper pizza oven, my god it retains the heat for a bloody long time


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yeah! she's got a stone, used it once, upside down and the pizza stuck so it is relegated to the dark outer reaches of the pantry.

I got a weber as well as a spit roast and a barbie with hood but that is not enough for madam.

she informs me that one requires a complete outdoor kitchen with inbuilt oven that may allows one to cook and clean outside when one is entertaining.

I call it one up manship..... BIL has a pizza oven, we shall have an outdoor kitchen, complete with sink, stove oven of course.

I'll start with the oven and see how it goes from there.
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Got a crazy idea Dave,........................ get the BIL to buy/rent/borrow the car of your choice and take the Mrs around for lunch,..........................................se e if that works also


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Just say no.... Tell her that there is no room after u buy another car.
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Just dont put any pinrapple on the pizzas.....
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Got a crazy idea Dave,........................ get the BIL to buy/rent/borrow the car of your choice and take the Mrs around for lunch,..........................................se e if that works also


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Bwah! Hah! Hah!........love it. but for some reason I cant see it being that easy!

'tis only that which madam wants that is granted in this household.

I'm going for months in the planning and possible weeks for the preparation then I'll stretch out the construction for as long as I feel safe!

however there will come a time when the minister for all things pleasurable will get that which she desires!......now where did I leave my concrete mixer?
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large with the lot please
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I used to have a charcole spit a customer gave it (a heavy wall 44 on its side with an electric motor) it was fantastic for spits but also add a stone change the charcole for some hard wood (let it burn down to coles) and BAM fantastic wood fired pizza

I just picked up an oldskool fuel oven from a house that was getting a reno up the road and thats going on the back deck with the obove mentioned stone as my outdoor heating / pizza oven

It'll also do stove top esspresso ;)
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i got a gas one , so easy to use and makes great pizza , and you dont have to make it haha
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I used to have a charcole spit a customer gave it (a heavy wall 44 on its side with an electric motor) it was fantastic for spits but also add a stone change the charcole for some hard wood (let it burn down to coles) and BAM fantastic wood fired pizza

I just picked up an oldskool fuel oven from a house that was getting a reno up the road and thats going on the back deck with the obove mentioned stone as my outdoor heating / pizza oven

It'll also do stove top esspresso ;)
yeah! I've been keeping an eye out for the old metters stove, either No 4 or 5

but every tom dick and henry wants them if they are any good.......cant be beaten as an oven and a stove top.
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I know a couple of guys who've built them. Plenty of info on the net about how to make them.

One tip with the bricks...go to a foundry or boilermakers works...try and get old kiln or boiler or furnace lining bricks from when they've done renovations. The guys I know got them from a foundry and another lot of bricks from a place that was replacing an old boiler that had bricks around it. They're proper fire bricks that won't chip and fall apart from the heat, and they've been well seasoned by years of use in a furnace. Brickworks might be another place to get old fire bricks...they usually have furnaces lines in them.
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Poppa,

There's a heap of places that do kits. I think bunnings still have a kit DIY one.

If you want some advise give clayworks a call. They're based in Dandenong Vic and have built a heap of them.


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we looked at some in Bunnings in mount gambier and Bunnings @ munno para.....madam does not like the look, she wants a "craftsman" igloo style, heavy brick, insulated with concrete overlay in a "clay" colour construction with timber storage beneath to hold pots, pans and other "tools of the trade"

I've built plenty of barby's, retaining walls and flower boxes out of brick so I've exposed the fact that I can work in brick as well as steel and timber (as you know we husbands are doomed once that knowledge gets out).

I shall use stalling tactics until at least spring when her thoughts return to gardening. ( I live in hope).

George, I wish it was just a jeep......flash the card, job done but this is menial labour that she wishes......she wont sell her micra though, she loves the damn thing.

but I will be constructing at some stage, just a matter of when......she will have her way or life becomes very difficult.
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WARNING, beware of using old secondhand firbricks that have come out of foundries, chimney stacks etc that may have been melting toxic metals, chemicals etc. Could prove fatal.
If you want the best info, go to Forno bravo website, plenty of ideas and its a forum like AFF.
Or, you could give me a PM and I can run you through it.
I have been in the firebrick/refractory business for 30 years and can supply all you need, or put you onto an interstate supplier near you. I have helped 100's of people build WFO's, both domestic and commercial applications.
I have supplied most brick companies with their refractory materials, and have supplied Clayworks in Dandenong with their materials. They dont brick their domes, they are cast out of high temp , 1350C grade " concrete".
Rendering the outside is easy and you use an oxide to get any colour you want. Insulation is the key factor in building the oven, keep the heat IN the oven, not heating up the supporting structure and the outside enviroment.

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madam wouldnt allow me to use used anything, my my, simply wouldn't DO!......imagine the gossip over a glass of white... " yes but they used secondhand materials!".

we have a large hardware company here that I have been dealing with for years, they only sell to the trade.

I will buy all my supply from there, I will line it with fire bricks and use refractory mortar, then a lime based mortar mix over the top coloured to clay.

I've looked at a few plans and like a couple.....but I'm just trying to put it off and get some ideas from members.
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madam wouldnt allow me to use used anything, my my, simply wouldn't DO!......imagine the gossip over a glass of white... " yes but they used secondhand materials!".

we have a large hardware company here that I have been dealing with for years, they only sell to the trade.

I will buy all my supply from there, I will line it with fire bricks and use refractory mortar, then a lime based mortar mix over the top coloured to clay.

I've looked at a few plans and like a couple.....but I'm just trying to put it off and get some ideas from members.
Try Sila Australia P/L for materials, they manufacture, not resell. They dont normally sell to the public but I can get you in if you require. just PM me when you are ready. Use a calcium silicate board underneath your floor tiles, and wrap the dome in ceramic fibre blanket, THEN render it. Finally AFTER drying the whole thing out slowly, waterproof render it.
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A sink with hot and cold taps on the outside is great. At my old place we had one. Came in handy so much espically in the summer when we wanted to BBQ, washing hands etc.
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A sink with hot and cold taps on the outside is great. At my old place we had one. Came in handy so much espically in the summer when we wanted to BBQ, washing hands etc.
we already have that, along with a built in BBQ and cabinets, we have had up to 60 people here at a time and it has served us well.

but it is to be revitalised apparently and a Pizza oven (which will never be used to cook pizzas by the way but just another roasting oven) simply must be included.

hopefully it will ease down a bit with the colder weather and not so much cooking outside.......but it will be look out when spring comes around.

I've seen a few on youtube that I like and could easily reproduce......if I had a mind to......if I dont ....well it will be to my detriment in the long term.
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we already have that, along with a built in BBQ and cabinets, we have had up to 60 people here at a time and it has served us well.

but it is to be revitalised apparently and a Pizza oven (which will never be used to cook pizzas by the way but just another roasting oven) simply must be included.

hopefully it will ease down a bit with the colder weather and not so much cooking outside.......but it will be look out when spring comes around.

I've seen a few on youtube that I like and could easily reproduce......if I had a mind to......if I dont ....well it will be to my detriment in the long term.
for the record these make a fantastic heater / pie warmer for watching the footy out on the deck


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now theres a thought!!!.......comfy chair, couple cold beverages, few mates......watching the crows beat the stuffing out of the geelong cats.......oh! damn there i go off to dreamland again!
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