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Citroënbender · 02-10-2021, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by russellw

The Victorian system seems pretty good in as much as you can make your initial booking on-line or (as I did) just ring the local clinic and they make the 2nd for you after you've had the first. As they were still doing 12 weeks for AZ that's the gap I got and am happy with even if it does mean it will be November before I'm double vaccinated.

You also get an email to confirm that appointment and then text messages in the few days leading up to it.

Almost a mirror of my experience in Sydney, my second dose is 22/10 but the pressure from others to bring it forward, is relentless.

Covidlive has got the Friday NSW vaccination figures up, 88.1 / 66.5 percent. The 70% x2 figure should be passed during Tuesday next. I really hope we can keep up the effort to reach people who’ve not been able to get vaccinated yet.

**buggerlugs** · 03-10-2021, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

Is that Pfizer or AZ and Moderna?

Chemist Warehouse is doing AZ and Moderna but doesnt list Pfizer.

Terry White Pharmacies are offering the same.

I was told Pfizer has to be measured, that's why chemists are not doing it........

PooDog · 03-10-2021, 08:35 AM

Auckland is still in lockdown level 3 and still getting 20 odd cases a day ...still having break outs ,it sounds like its got into 3 gangs now and some homeless so thats gonna be a hell mission to clean that up ......if it cuts loose we've got bugger all ventilators and a health system already under pressure and threatening strikes for the last 6 months or so

Aucklanders are getting real testy about the lockdown, currently the longest we've had

The pressures really mounting on Jacinda

Metdevil · 03-10-2021, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PooDog

Auckland is still in lockdown level 3 and still getting 20 odd cases a day ...still having break outs ,it sounds like its got into 3 gangs now and some homeless so thats gonna be a hell mission to clean that up ......if it cuts loose we've got bugger all ventilators and a health system already under pressure and threatening strikes for the last 6 months or so

Aucklanders are getting real testy about the lockdown, currently the longest we've had

The pressures really mounting on Jacinda

Yea, nurses were striking over staff shortages long before Covid.

Some very, very short-sighted people seem to think that "it has a 99% survival rate" and think that 1% of people with Covid are just up and dying overnight without going through the healthcare system.
It's not the people who are dying that are the problem - that's one less person who needs the healthcare - it's the rest who are in hospital for weeks before becoming a part of that 1% (and, hopefully, do not become a part of that 1%) who are causing the stress on the system.

Also doesn't help that you've got the Destiny Church crazies out there making things difficult for us now. We've been watching the world go through protests and marches over this for the last 18 months, it hasn't worked anywhere else in the world as of yet, why do they think it's going to work here?

At some point we are going to have to 'learn to live with Covid', but we need to make sure that we're in the best position to do that first. Right now, this is not that, so until then shuddap and put on yer damn mask.

CoupeKing · 03-10-2021, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PooDog

The pressures really mounting on Jacinda

Sure is.....

Yellow_Festiva · 03-10-2021, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Sure is.....

That clip is 3 years old.

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PooDog · 03-10-2021, 09:14 AM

You've got to wonder how stupid people can be to follow a clown like Brian Tamaki ? this latest stunt just proves it

XR Martin · 03-10-2021, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by buggerlugs

I was told Pfizer has to be measured, that's why chemists are not doing it........

Issue with Pfizer is you can't store it, it's basically a 'just in time' type deal.

slowsnake · 03-10-2021, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

Every State is different in how they go about it.
Here in SA you can book your first jab online and it automatically gives you the next available booking for your 2nd atleast 21 days after the first.
You can pick a later date but cant book any earlier.

My initial bookings were 21 days apart to the day.
It wasnt until they turned me away at my 1st booking that it all went to ****.

My Wife did her bookings exactly the same way and because she was able to get her 1st jab on the correct day she had the 2nd on the correct day.

My problems started when they changed their questionnaire without notifying bookings already scheduled and began turning people away.
Considering they send out a text on the day you have a jab, how hard would it be to send one out about changes to the criteria to allow people to act accordingly and not end up with what ive had happen.

OK, I walked into vaccination hub off the street!...no appointment, just this massive hub for vaccinations, that's the issue, you booked your first and I didentm so I couldn't be early or late, but they were very particular about my second jab!....

That can mean one of 2 things, they are super efficient in dealing with 1500 people a day, or, they use my "guaranteed" second appointment to fudge the numbers of double vaxxed people, just to make the statistics look good.

Metdevil · 03-10-2021, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

Issue with Pfizer is you can't store it, it's basically a 'just in time' type deal.

Same as Moderna, once its been thawed it's on a time limit. I don't think AZ is frozen, but does need to be refrigerated.
All of them are multi-dose vials, which need to be used within hours of drawing the first dose.

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Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

That clip is 3 years old.

It says 'live' right there in the corner!

PooDog · 03-10-2021, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Metdevil

Same as Moderna, once its been thawed it's on a time limit. I don't think AZ is frozen, but does need to be refrigerated.
All of them are multi-dose vials, which need to be used within hours of drawing the first dose.

It says 'live' right there in the corner!

It also says NEW PM .....

**buggerlugs** · 03-10-2021, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

That clip is 3 years old.

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Surely that didn't surprise you with "King of the Clips" CoupeKing.........

slowsnake · 03-10-2021, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

Issue with Pfizer is you can't store it, it's basically a 'just in time' type deal.

My local chemist in Perth does these vaccinations, this was before they turned my shopping centre into a vaccination hub, I asked 2 months ago if they would vaccinate me, they said yes, I said Pfizer they said AZ only, was that because of my age 68, or as you say the Pfizer needs very close observation because of it use by date or its temperature control, there is a lot of bullsh.t surrounding these vaccines, and I would not trust any big store or warehouse with low level workers keeping these vaccines at the correct temperature?

slowsnake · 03-10-2021, 11:00 AM

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infect...istration.aspx

This link should put it to bed!

Citroënbender · 03-10-2021, 11:09 AM

Victoria back on (or very near) Russell’s 3^rd order trendline today.

Has there been any informed discussion of the rates of testing in NSW vs Victoria? In NSW it (testing rate) seems to track the case rate somewhat.

slowsnake · 03-10-2021, 11:20 AM

What chance has the western world got when we have reprobate crew members on international ships arriving in Fremantle Port, and they are using it to get what they can't get at home!

So this ship in photo, the Stolt Sakura leaves Singapore for Australia and "magically" all the crew come down with covid symptoms?
This ship travelled from South Korea, China and Taiwan between August and September?
So I/we are to believe that between South Korea, China and Taiwan then Singapore that the crew were perfectly healthy???

Bullsh.t, am i/we to believe that this covid free ship crewed by covid free sailors only got sick after leaving Singapore??....on the way to Australia and know that they would be accepted and given the red carpet treatment?.

Well I would like a bit of that too, does this Government not see what's going on here?
I'm dumbfounded, I really am, seems being an Australian taxpayer is worth nothing at all at the end of the day!

Metdevil · 03-10-2021, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by slowsnake

What chance has the western world got when we have reprobate crew members on international ships arriving in Fremantle Port, and they are using it to get what they can't get at home!

So this ship in photo, the Stolt Sakura leaves Singapore for Australia and "magically" all the crew come down with covid symptoms?
This ship travelled from South Korea, China and Taiwan between August and September?
So I/we are to believe that between South Korea, China and Taiwan then Singapore that the crew were perfectly healthy???

Bullsh.t, am i/we to believe that this covid free ship crewed by covid free sailors only got sick after leaving Singapore??....on the way to Australia and know that they would be accepted and given the red carpet treatment?.

Well I would like a bit of that too, does this Government not see what's going on here?
I'm dumbfounded, I really am, seems being an Australian taxpayer is worth nothing at all at the end of the day!

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Where's the confusion? The ship left Singapore on the 24th, and they developed symptoms sometime before the 28th. With the 10-14 day incubation period of Sars-cov-2, that gives them 5+ days prior to leaving Singapore where they could have become inoculated. Nothing 'magical' about it, the dates line up.

**russellw** · 03-10-2021, 12:05 PM

NSW/VIC

NSW records 668 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 0.9587 (from 0.9795) while the actual line remains a below the predictive trend line and based on the 3rd order polynomial, that trend line now has a downward curve again. Note: the change to 3rd order instead of 4th order is to assist with smoothing the trend.

VIC records 1,220 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 1.0662 (from 1.1062) while the actual line is now slightly below the predictive trend.

**russellw** · 03-10-2021, 12:39 PM

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT October 2nd 2021.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting.

2,388 new cases for Australia and 12 deaths so the CMR is 1.206%. The ACT had an equal record high 52 cases.

28 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 0.625%.

The UK had 29,389 cases yesterday and 121 deaths for a CMR of 1.739%.

122,767 new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,821 deaths sees CMR at 1.618%.

Other notable points: (weekend reporting)
Belarus (1,998); and
Romania (12,590)

... recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

Armenia moves above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period while no countries drop below.

slowsnake · 03-10-2021, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Metdevil

Where's the confusion? The ship left Singapore on the 24th, and they developed symptoms sometime before the 28th. With the 10-14 day incubation period of Sars-cov-2, that gives them 5+ days prior to leaving Singapore where they could have become inoculated. Nothing 'magical' about it, the dates line up.

You telling me they never left the ship at all ports prior to Singapore?
Don't think so, they started in August and its now October?

So like magic they only get sick once they are in Australian waters, or on the way here to get treatment not available at home, I know we import and export goods, but we don't need a travelling covid circus?
It's so easy to suck folk in, lol, it's their plan, like the boat people and we as Australian taxpayers should not foot the bill for these scam artists!

T3rminator · 03-10-2021, 07:31 PM

Does that mean 4 x $1m prizes?

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A million reasons to get jabbed: New lottery offers prizes for vaccinated people

https://www.theage.com.au/national/a...03-p58wqk.html

Australians who are fully vaccinated will have the chance to win a $1 million prize as part of a new lottery created by a philanthropic group.
With a prize pool of $4.1 million, the campaign has been created by the Million Dollar Vax Alliance, comprising a group of philanthropists and corporations that hope to push national vaccination rates above 80 per cent.
Australians aged 18 and over are eligible, including those who are already fully vaccinated. The winners must be fully vaccinated by six weeks after October 31.

tweeked · 03-10-2021, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by slowsnake

You telling me they never left the ship at all ports prior to Singapore?
Don't think so, they started in August and its now October?

So like magic they only get sick once they are in Australian waters, or on the way here to get treatment not available at home, I know we import and export goods, but we don't need a travelling covid circus?
It's so easy to suck folk in, lol, it's their plan, like the boat people and we as Australian taxpayers should not foot the bill for these scam artists!

You know that Singapore is not a third world country? Go through all that to end up at a city that is in ambulance bypass even before they get a covid case? Pretty sure they would have been better off in Singapore..

If you stop ships Billy you know your shops will be empty in a month.

PooDog · 03-10-2021, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by slowsnake

What chance has the western world got when we have reprobate crew members on international ships arriving in Fremantle Port, and they are using it to get what they can't get at home!

So this ship in photo, the Stolt Sakura leaves Singapore for Australia and "magically" all the crew come down with covid symptoms?
This ship travelled from South Korea, China and Taiwan between August and September?
So I/we are to believe that between South Korea, China and Taiwan then Singapore that the crew were perfectly healthy???

Bullsh.t, am i/we to believe that this covid free ship crewed by covid free sailors only got sick after leaving Singapore??....on the way to Australia and know that they would be accepted and given the red carpet treatment?.

Well I would like a bit of that too, does this Government not see what's going on here?
I'm dumbfounded, I really am, seems being an Australian taxpayer is worth nothing at all at the end of the day!

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Originally Posted by slowsnake

Got no teeth..

We've had similar things over the ditch Billy ....fishing crews docking with sick crews usually mostly foreign crews ....what do you do you cant preach that your a civilized country then turn them away .....when it all hit the fan overin the states there were quite a lot of yachties that took off to the island's then wanted to head to NZ ...the government wouldn't let them in there was a big huha about it because there were supposed to be a cyclone or storm coming I think from memory but if they had let them in it would have opened the doors for Any yachties

slowsnake · 03-10-2021, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tweeked

You know that Singapore is not a third world country? Go through all that to end up at a city that is in ambulance bypass even before they get a covid case? Pretty sure they would have been better off in Singapore..

If you stop ships Billy you know your shops will be empty in a month.

But wouldn't it be cheaper for Australia to maybe have one or two medical people stationed overseas to assess and test the crews?
I feel very sorry for these sick crew on a sh.t wage, and sh.t conditions on substandard vessels registered in the Cayman Islands, which is exactly why they register at anywhere but the owners home port, its to take advantage of poor workers, who will not complain, but I dont want covid, I want to die of cancer not covid, this whole world is fu.ked by greedy selfish business men, and our pollies don't care, they just want everything "magically" to go away and resolve itself!
Well it won't, when other countries do not follow the basic rules of hygiene!

Itsme · 03-10-2021, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by slowsnake

You telling me they never left the ship at all ports prior to Singapore?
Don't think so, they started in August and its now October?

So like magic they only get sick once they are in Australian waters, or on the way here to get treatment not available at home, I know we import and export goods, but we don't need a travelling covid circus?
It's so easy to suck folk in, lol, it's their plan, like the boat people and we as Australian taxpayers should not foot the bill for these scam artists!

What treatment do you think they are going to get once they are infected with covid? they wont get any vaccination at all and the serious ones most likely on ventilator until well enough or die. Most will be monitored until cleared to go back to their ship.

HIPO · 03-10-2021, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by T3rminator

"Authorised worker" mandatory jab requirement annouced by Vic Gov today.... Probably would have been easier to make a list on who it doesn't cover.....pollies are now on the mandated list too.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...01-p58whn.html

Edit: Full list from Vic Gov site: https://www.coronavirus.vic.gov.au/a...ed-worker-list

I suspect Vic might see further emmigration of population to other states in the short term....thats assuming other states don't follow.

need to read the fine print....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il-RZ9SUInQ

Citroënbender · 04-10-2021, 07:21 AM

Roll on, NSW… Saturday vaccination totals 88.4 / 67.1%.

I’ve just emailed Pick’n’Payless to ask if they have a plan/date for re-opening to the public. #priorities #secondhome

MITCHAY · 04-10-2021, 09:00 AM

ACT has officially overtook WA to slide into 4th place. We're coming for QLD to be 3rd

This Delta variant is ****ed and can't be contained, glad I get my second dose next Monday.

slowsnake · 04-10-2021, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Itsme

What treatment do you think they are going to get once they are infected with covid? they wont get any vaccination at all and the serious ones most likely on ventilator until well enough or die. Most will be monitored until cleared to go back to their ship.

Nothing in their home country?
Everything in their Private Australian Covid fixing haven!

slowsnake · 04-10-2021, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tweeked

You know that Singapore is not a third world country? Go through all that to end up at a city that is in ambulance bypass even before they get a covid case? Pretty sure they would have been better off in Singapore..

If you stop ships Billy you know your shops will be empty in a month.

They were sick before they got to Singapore?..vi China, a very covid free country, South Korea, another very covid free country and Taiwan another very covid free country, so they all got covid in Singapore!.bullsh.t