au 1/4 time

4dlvr · 19-02-2007, 07:21 PM

i have a fairmont au, it has lsd and irs apart from that its stock as a rock. ive been wanting to take it to calder park for a laugh. now my question is am i being too optamistic thinking that ill get a mid to 15 second pass???
if not i might have to try plan b

Casper · 19-02-2007, 07:25 PM

Most likely looking at a low 16 second pass for a stocker auto Fairmont.

Bucknaked · 19-02-2007, 07:25 PM

As long as I break Half hour, I'll be happy

The Monty · 19-02-2007, 07:27 PM

Yep, with a good launch, low 16. Is it manual or auto?

Casper · 19-02-2007, 07:29 PM

If its stock.. its auto. No factory manual Fairmonts in AU's.

The Monty · 19-02-2007, 07:33 PM

Didnt know that. You learn something everyday.

4dlvr · 19-02-2007, 07:38 PM

its auto
what if i go plan b

PLAN B:
1)Remove the exhaust + cat, so ill only be running extractors
2)remove air filter or even intake
3)weight reduction- remove spare tire, sub, use min fuel (i might even consider loosing weight
4)use high octane fuel with a **** load of octane boosters
5)put bike wheels on the front!!!!

note: last 1 was a joke

4dlvr · 19-02-2007, 07:40 PM

would that get me into 15z?
if you know any other go fast things that i can do let me know

Mr_4.0 · 19-02-2007, 07:55 PM

lots of octane booster mite actually slow you down mate.

Casper · 19-02-2007, 07:59 PM

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its auto
what if i go plan b

PLAN B:
1)Remove the exhaust + cat, so ill only be running extractors

Will make a bit of difference (not much though) however, if you are running stock exhaust you will find removing the exhaust at the track will be a drama and running just a stock factory manifold is going to basically shoot flames straight into your engine bay.. not a good thing.

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2)remove air filter or even intake

air filter is not going to be a restriction on a stock motor with stock exhaust.

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3)weight reduction- remove spare tire, sub, use min fuel (i might even consider loosing weight

General assumption is that that sort of stuff was going to be removed.

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4)use high octane fuel with a **** load of octane boosters

Running 98RON without it tuned for it will make almost no difference at all. Pumping it full of octane booster will actually make it run worse.

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5)put bike wheels on the front!!!!

I want to see pics of that

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The Monty · 19-02-2007, 08:00 PM

Well, I run an AU1 Fairmont, 2.5" half mandrel, Half press bent cat back, K&N, and Tickford induction. No spare tire or subs, on 95ron Ethanol fuel, and with a stall so Im nearly braking traction, ran a 15.88@88.18 on Saturday night. There is no way you could get into the mid 15's although you could crack the high 15's with a good launch.

4dlvr · 19-02-2007, 08:01 PM

so its impsooibel to get my au into 15s with out any REAL mods

The Monty · 19-02-2007, 08:02 PM

Just reading back through your first post, and it says IRS and LSD. Is yours a ghia? If so, maybe you could go a bit quicker.

The Monty · 19-02-2007, 08:03 PM

You could get there, but with a good launch and good weather, maybe. Just give it a crack and find out, I'd love to know what they do stock as a rock., in relation to the modded ones out there.

Casper · 19-02-2007, 08:03 PM

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Just reading back through your first post, and it says IRS and LSD. Is yours a ghia? If so, maybe you could go a bit quicker.

Unlikely, any gain with the VCT motor is eaten up (and then some) by the added weight of the IRS. It will provide good grip though but I dont think that will make a huge difference.

AU2PWR · 19-02-2007, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 4dlvr

would that get me into 15z?
if you know any other go fast things that i can do let me know

NO

Too much Octane Booster will do some damage ... With the stuff you said , Low 16's are still going to be what you are going to get ..

PLAN B:
1)Remove the exhaust + cat, so ill only be running extractors - Not Worth it
2)remove air filter or even intake - Buy a K&N or BMC and get a Tickford Snorkle
3)weight reduction- remove spare tire, sub, use min fuel (i might even consider loosing weight - thats only a 45kg saving , PWR - WGHT doesnt rate
4)use high octane fuel with a **** load of octane boosters - No Point
5)put bike wheels on the front!!!! - ?

If your Short on Cash , do the VERY basic Stuff , K&N High Flow ($100) , Tickford/F6 Snorkle ($90) , Exhaust ($270) ... this is basically the Bounce Point where most Mods Start ..

After that , $$$ are needed severly , Edit , Headers , High Stall Converter

and even more after that , theres the Specialty Mods Like a G&D/Bluepower/ACE Airbox , Custom Tunes from your Performance House of Choice ...

But doing all that stuff you mentioned , your pushing it to see 15.9

Cheers and Good Luck mate ..

Daniel

Free347 · 19-02-2007, 08:06 PM

1) You probably run slower and start a fire!
2) You can't really remove the intake at all as you need the sensors, removing the filter is not really recommended (it's there for a good reason)
3) Weight reduction - yes, whatever you can easily remove but don't go overboard
4) 98ron should be plenty for a stock engine
5) so long as they're BMX wheels (mountain bike ones look funny)

Do you have an I6 or a V8?

AU2PWR · 19-02-2007, 08:07 PM

Also , If you want to Start from a Point , Take it to your Local Dyno and Fay for some Power Runs , To See what your Start Point is ... Just a Hint

4dlvr · 19-02-2007, 08:09 PM

my mate did it in about 16 seconds flat au fairmont jus like mine(no lsd no irs) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxFa5VPkN_0
so theres no reason why mine cant crack 15
the reason i dont want to modd it is because i want to sell it and buy a xr6 5speed manual, by the way its a 6
and how much do dyno tests cost???

AU2PWR · 19-02-2007, 08:13 PM

that video just shows the car gaining speed , pointless ,

Look , If your New to it , take it to Calder on a Friday , or WSID , and Run it on a Test and Tune Day ,

Casper · 19-02-2007, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 4dlvr

my mate did it in about 16 seconds flat au fairmont jus like mine(no lsd no irs) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxFa5VPkN_0
so theres no reason why mine cant crack 15

Because the IRS is about 50-80kgs heavier.. and LSD wont really make any difference at all with the launch in a stock auto. Sorry but unless theres something we dont know its almost a certain low 16's. I'm guessing 16.2 or 16.1.

chief · 19-02-2007, 08:16 PM

PLAN B:
1)Remove the exhaust + cat, so ill only be running extractors
2)remove air filter or even intake
3)weight reduction- remove spare tire, sub, use min fuel (i might even consider loosing weight
4)use high octane fuel with a **** load of octane boosters
5)put bike wheels on the front!!!!

As my mate Peter Griffin says.

4dlvr · 19-02-2007, 08:18 PM

what we actually did was mark 400m and race to it as quick as we can, not very accurate i know but good fun,
also that was with two people in the car and in econ, and as you can see he just flat footed it, no stall

Casper · 19-02-2007, 08:23 PM

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what we actually did was mark 400m and race to it as quick as we can, not very accurate i know but good fun,
also that was with two people in the car and in econ, and as you can see he just flat footed it, no stall

So basically it was hand timed over a roughly marked out stretch of mostly flat road.. which was probably illegal?

Take it to Calder, have some fun and get it down the track as quick as you can. If its a 16 then so be it.. and then you get to watch it tumble as you start to mod the car. Its also much more legal and safe for all then messing around on the public roads.. no Bracks camera's or TMU police at Calder.

AU2PWR · 19-02-2007, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 4dlvr

what we actually did was mark 400m and race to it as quick as we can, not very accurate i know but good fun,
also that was with two people in the car and in econ, and as you can see he just flat footed it, no stall

Very Stupid , Sorry but if you do this on the Roads , then your asking for trouble , With all the Hoon Laws and stuff ...

But Anyway , No Amount of Launching it Right , SUPER Cold Air or Removing Every last peice of trim , tyre , headlights wil improve it , you will possibly make 15.999999999 , But Its a Long Shot ,

where is Tulla , as in Tullamarine Victoria , if so , Bring it to Calder this Friday ...

4dlvr · 19-02-2007, 08:38 PM

use guys must have mis read it
"my "MATE" did it in about 16 seconds flat au fairmont jus like mine(no lsd no irs)"
my mate not me, ill agree i did help him mark 0-400m but i did not get in the car, nor did i race my car, thats why i started this thread, so i can go and do it in a safe enviroment rather then do it on public roads

The Monty · 19-02-2007, 08:44 PM

I ran in econ, no use letting it rev its titties off for no extra power.

Casper · 19-02-2007, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 4dlvr

use guys must have mis read it
"my "MATE" did it in about 16 seconds flat au fairmont jus like mine(no lsd no irs)"
my mate not me, ill agree i did help him mark 0-400m but i did not get in the car, nor did i race my car, thats why i started this thread, so i can go and do it in a safe enviroment rather then do it on public roads

Smart move, well done.
The point is though that his 16 second pass is not something you can compare to. It was "hand timed" and, given we are talking about 10ths of seconds, the odds are that his time is wrong.
The other thing to not is that a 1/4 mile is actually 402.335 metres. Now 2.335 meters doesnt sound like much but at the speed of a stock I6 AU that takes another 0.06 seconds (roughly). Not that much.. but over 1/2 a 10th of a second may be the difference between a 16 and a 15.

Give it a run at Calder.. you'll know for certain then and your "mate" will still be guessing.

4dlvr · 19-02-2007, 08:51 PM

ill llgive it a run at calder hopefully in a couple weeks time as im trying to sell the car. the reason i want to run it before i sell it is because i want to enter the burnout comp aswell. yehh.
cheers

Casper · 19-02-2007, 08:55 PM

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