AU 2-3 High Series Cluster Upgrade

[fourl6]

I know this has been covered a million times but some of the main things have never been answered, I changed my AU3 Forte cluster to a AU3 Fairmont Ghia Cluster today, all working great, only thing is that i dont have a trip meter as the high series have it in the climate control? and havn't wired up the individual door ajar and the washer fluid senser

all the tec docs around give basic instruction on upgrading a series 1 and just say change this these pins, not very easy to understand

the instructions for series 1 are pretty much the same for 2/3 with one of the wires changing colour but all pin locations staying the same

The following wires need to be moved around, in order for the Mid/High Cluster to function correctly,
1. The Park Lamp Dial (+ Positive) Illumination needs to be moved from Pin 13 to Pin 2. - Brown
2. The Dial Negative Dimmer Illumination needs to be moved from Pin 21 to Pin 3. - Light Blue / Red
3. The ABS Warning Lamp Wire needs to be moved from Pin 8 to Pin 23 - Orange/Black
4. The R.H. Side Indicator wire needs to be moved from Pin 19 to Pin 26 - Green / Light Blue (Series 1 is White / Light Blue)

(Using the Photo Below) The Pin numbers start from bottom right and go in a U shape to the top right spread over the 2 connections, so a total of 28 pins one connection has 8 pins (that does not exist on base model wiring) and the other has 20 pins

this photos is of the back of a AU3 Fairmont Ghia Cluster with a AU3 Forte Wiring loom, with the pins removed from the connection

[fourl6]

correction... i do have a trip meter, but no dte...

[Mont5.0]

DTE will be found on the left hand side of the climate control display.

[T3man]

On a Forte? Don't think so. In fact I'm pretty sure you won't even find CC display.

[ronwest]

Originally Posted by T3man

On a Forte? Don't think so. In fact I'm pretty sure you won't even find CC display.

I don't know either but according to the "Instruments" section here http://www.trueblueford.com/AU1_intro_INTERIOR.html all AU Falcons came with DTE.

[NC1183]

Originally Posted by ronwest

I don't know either but according to the "Instruments" section here http://www.trueblueford.com/AU1_intro_INTERIOR.html all AU Falcons came with DTE.

Yeah, all AU Falcons came with DTE, however, the Fairlane and the T-Series except T3TE had it displayed in the centre console along with the climate control and fuel usage displays. The Forte, XR and T3TE all had it on the dash cluster.

[brad`]

also all fairmonts had it on the climate control, all series

[fourl6]

so mine being a forte with a ghia cluster, it no longer displays dte, still beeps when low on fuel. i wonder how harrd it would be to wire up the climate contol screen (just to display fuel usage etc.)

just had a look at the wiring diagram of the cluster and the nothing special the there... just door open wires etc...

[au11futura]

im sorry for hijacking the thread mate ive got an au2 futura does this mean i could use the au2 monty cluster, as i crave the oil and volts metres?

[NC1183]

Originally Posted by au11futura

im sorry for hijacking the thread mate ive got an au2 futura does this mean i could use the au2 monty cluster, as i crave the oil and volts metres?

Yep, that is correct, either 'mont or XR cluster will go in, just need to change pin locations etc according to diagram, and then either get Ford to disable the Rad and Washer level lights or connect the sensors

[au11futura]

Originally Posted by NC1183

Yep, that is correct, either 'mont or XR cluster will go in, just need to change pin locations etc according to diagram, and then either get Ford to disable the Rad and Washer level lights or connect the sensors

thanks for that..

[Halfmo Rocks]

Originally Posted by NC1183

Yep, that is correct, either 'mont or XR cluster will go in, just need to change pin locations etc according to diagram, and then either get Ford to disable the Rad and Washer level lights or connect the sensors

disable the lights...so they would be on - like a warning light unless disabled?

i have a line on an XR cluster & am keen to do this

[Tors77AU]

Ok, ive got an AU series 1 forte, and i plugged in a series 3 fairlane cluster and everything worked minus seperate door open function, the illumination and the dimming function.

In the docs on here and on ford mods it says that you have to change your oil pressure swith to a sensor, yet i get oil pressure reading on the gauge.

Guy that i bought it off used to work for ford a told me that all the AU oil senders where the same, just on low series when the voltage reaches a certain point it switches the oil warning light on.

Is this corect? seems to be the case with my 99 au anyway.

[bodes-sh]

Originally Posted by Tors77AU

Ok, ive got an AU series 1 forte, and i plugged in a series 3 fairlane cluster and everything worked minus seperate door open function, the illumination and the dimming function.

In the docs on here and on ford mods it says that you have to change your oil pressure swith to a sensor, yet i get oil pressure reading on the gauge.

Guy that i bought it off used to work for ford a told me that all the AU oil senders where the same, just on low series when the voltage reaches a certain point it switches the oil warning light on.

Is this corect? seems to be the case with my 99 au anyway.

has been mentioned a few times around here, au1's had a "proper" oil pressure gauge, that actually moved as oil pressure changed. au2 and 3 only had a basic one that would just sit sorta half way all the time, without actually measuring the oil pressure, so they just ran a normal oil pressure switch instead of a pressure sender...

hope that makes sense...

[Uncle_Ken]

I know this has been covered a million times but some of the main things have never been answered, I changed my AU3 Forte cluster to a AU3 Fairmont Ghia Cluster today, all working great, only thing is that i dont have a trip meter as the high series have it in the climate control? and havn't wired up the individual door ajar and the washer fluid senser

all the tec docs around give basic instruction on upgrading a series 1 and just say change this these pins, not very easy to understand

the instructions for series 1 are pretty much the same for 2/3 with one of the wires changing colour but all pin locations staying the same

The following wires need to be moved around, in order for the Mid/High Cluster to function correctly,
1. The Park Lamp Dial (+ Positive) Illumination needs to be moved from Pin 13 to Pin 2. - Brown
2. The Dial Negative Dimmer Illumination needs to be moved from Pin 21 to Pin 3. - Light Blue / Red
3. The ABS Warning Lamp Wire needs to be moved from Pin 8 to Pin 23 - Orange/Black
4. The R.H. Side Indicator wire needs to be moved from Pin 19 to Pin 26 - Green / Light Blue (Series 1 is White / Light Blue)

(Using the Photo Below) The Pin numbers start from bottom right and go in a U shape to the top right spread over the 2 connections, so a total of 28 pins one connection has 8 pins (that does not exist on base model wiring) and the other has 20 pins

this photos is of the back of a AU3 Fairmont Ghia Cluster with a AU3 Forte Wiring loom, with the pins removed from the connection

[XRGhia]

did you heatshrink them yet?

[Uncle_Ken]

Originally Posted by xrghiawagon

did you heatshrink them yet?

Not Yet. Because I used the Floppy drive power cord going into the cluster I twisted and uesd electrical tape. No expossed wires any where. I will wait a few days to see if anything 'unplanned' happens then heatshrink them.
Thanks for your comments as I have done this job, it does help.
UK

[nuguy01au]

just wondering do you SWAP the pins over or move them into new position and remove other wires
also do i need the second connector for the cluster?
i have an au2 2001 with base cluster and replacing with a fairmont/fairlane cluster and need help. photos of before and after would be a huge help

[Uncle_Ken]

Originally Posted by nuguy01au

just wondering do you SWAP the pins over or move them into new position and remove other wires
also do i need the second connector for the cluster?
i have an au2 2001 with base cluster and replacing with a fairmont/fairlane cluster and need help. photos of before and after would be a huge help

This might help you.
This is what I did with some pics. Its not a full how to however. Mine was an AUII low to high series.

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11319816

UK

[nuguy01au]

aha now i got it am going to do it tonight see how i go
cheers

[Uncle_Ken]

Originally Posted by nuguy01au

aha now i got it am going to do it tonight see how i go
cheers

Good Luck, let the forum know how you go.
UK

[nuguy01au]

yes it is in and workin just gotta get radiator coolant low light to stop flashin

[Uncle_Ken]

Originally Posted by nuguy01au

yes it is in and workin just gotta get radiator coolant low light to stop flashin

Goo to hear, not had the radiator coolant low light to stop flashing issue (yet ) Post some pics of it in.
UK

[fourl6]

Originally Posted by Uncle_Ken

Goo to hear, not had the radiator coolant low light to stop flashing issue (yet ) Post some pics of it in.
UK

iv seen it maybe twice in the 2+ years iv had the cluster in... doesn't stay on for long and i defiantly dont have a sensor.

One annoying thing i about a high series cluster and low series dash it you lose you DTE, but it still beeps at 80kms to empty every time you start the car etc you just cant reset it (you have to wait for it to finish beeping, which feels like 5 minutes)... the fix for that is to fit a high series dash

Cheers Cam

[nuguy01au]

dont really want dte anyway
the low washer level light disappears but not the low coolant level light. a sensor needs to be fitted in the car somewhere to stop it

[FGII-XR6]

you can download a doc with all the required pinouts from my server http://www.hunterit.net/cluster.doc

if you are using a S2 or 3 cluster don't change the oil sender

[fourl6]

Originally Posted by nuguy01au

dont really want dte anyway
the low washer level light disappears but not the low coolant level light. a sensor needs to be fitted in the car somewhere to stop it

you still get the dte beeping, just lose the ability to view the kms and stop the beeping...

[BadTruck81]

Did you get the low coolant light off mate as i have the same prob and cant get rid of it????

[nuguy01au]

i went and bought new coolant bottle and sensor and fitted it in had to do bit of homemade wiring cause didnt have the plug

[BadTruck81]

Where did you tap in the wiring???