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Old 08-04-2020, 12:20 PM   #1
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I was informed, that the Highway Patrol in Vic, will be on the look out for cars driving with "Club plates".

Yes, you can still drive a car with club plates during this time, if you have one of the valid reasons for leaving home, and within the prescribed limitations of Club rego rules.

But you better make sure your logbook is filled out.

Out cruising 100Km from home, and stating you are going to the shops to buy food, just won't cut the mustard.
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What is the justification for not being allowed to just go for a drive without stopping anywhere?

Only logic I can think of is to perhaps reduce odds of accidents that could increase demand for resources but I certainly can't see how it could be to do anything with stopping the spread if you are by yourself.
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What is the justification for not being allowed to just go for a drive without stopping anywhere?

Only logic I can think of is to perhaps reduce odds of accidents that could increase demand for resources but I certainly can't see how it could be to do anything with stopping the spread if you are by yourself.
Its simple really...

If you could "just go for a drive", then everyone with a car would automatically have a valid reason to leave home, which they don't want.
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Its simple really...

If you could "just go for a drive", then everyone with a car would automatically have a valid reason to leave home, which they don't want.
I understand that but what problem does it cause other than what I have highlighted for which I have not seen that explanation in anything published?

I'm only pointing this out that rather than just say it is not essential they actually explain the reasoning behind. That way perhaps they could get more buy in from the community.

I'm not talking about driving down the coast, but just around the local area. If it's something about social distancing then surely one or two people per car would be a fair compromise.

I'm not particularly worried about it I just don't understand why it has to be banned.


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Uhh- you need to fill your tank if you drive- that means exposure via the fuel pump handle to and from others, exposure via breathing and coughing while standing in line to pay, transmission when paying when dealing with person accepting payment, not to mention physical contact to effect payment if not touch and go, and taking receipt for petrol for tax reasons.

So just this step of filling up increases transmission. This does not include having to stop and use a facility for a piddle or poo, or being involved in a motor vehicle accident.
You have to fill the car for essential travel anyway. Unless you're doing an excessive amount of joy driving, the risk is the same. If you're not stopping anywhere public, what is the additional risk?

I'm still driving to work so it is not any extra risk and would be for many people.
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I understand that but what problem does it cause other than what I have highlighted for which I have not seen that explanation in anything published?

I'm only pointing this out that rather than just say it is not essential they actually explain the reasoning behind. That way perhaps they could get more buy in from the community.

I'm not talking about driving down the coast, but just around the local area. If it's something about social distancing then surely one or two people per car would be a fair compromise.

I'm not particularly worried about it I just don't understand why it has to be banned.




You have to fill the car for essential travel anyway. Unless you're doing an excessive amount of joy driving, the risk is the same. If you're not stopping anywhere public, what is the additional risk?

I'm still driving to work so it is not any extra risk and would be for many people.
The idea is that it exposes the risk. The risk to accident and injury. That will see both parties interact with each other following a incident, emergency services have to deal with you, you may take up valuable space and resources at hospital that is otherwise reserved for this pandemic that was suppose to overwhelm the health sector (fake news). Increasing the likelyhood of more people being infected.

And even if it was around the block. Human nature will see those boundaries pushed. Around the block ends up been around the next block or next suburb, and soon enough everyone is driving around the streets.
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The idea is that it exposes the risk. The risk to accident and injury. That will see both parties interact with each other following a incident, emergency services have to deal with you, you may take up valuable space and resources at hospital that is otherwise reserved for this pandemic that was suppose to overwhelm the health sector (fake news). Increasing the likelyhood of more people being infected.

And even if it was around the block. Human nature will see those boundaries pushed. Around the block ends up been around the next block or next suburb, and soon enough everyone is driving around the streets.
That is what I said is the only thing I can think of. But I have yet to see that in official messaging. So rather than say don't do it because it is bad, push that message.

For the record I am not out joy riding. In normal times I like to take a longer route on the way to do things that are now deemed to be essential on occasion, usually on a weekend.

Work and back and food these days. I have a home gym so don't need to go out for exercise.
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What is the justification for not being allowed to just go for a drive without stopping anywhere?

Only logic I can think of is to perhaps reduce odds of accidents that could increase demand for resources but I certainly can't see how it could be to do anything with stopping the spread if you are by yourself.
Uhh- you need to fill your tank if you drive- that means exposure via the fuel pump handle to and from others, exposure via breathing and coughing while standing in line to pay, transmission when paying when dealing with person accepting payment, not to mention physical contact to effect payment if not touch and go, and taking receipt for petrol for tax reasons.

So just this step of filling up increases transmission. This does not include having to stop and use a facility for a piddle or poo, or being involved in a motor vehicle accident.
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Yet I kept passing caravanner's on the freeway as I was back and forth to/from the quarry.
Where are these people going.

I few years ago while working in Coffs Harbour, we had major flooding which closed all the pacific hwy north, south and with the Waterfall way closed to the west. The park where I was staying stated there was nowhere travellers could get to due to flooding. Yet every morning of the 5 days the hwys were closed caravanner's would insist on leaving. Who knows where they ended up.
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Yet I kept passing caravanner's on the freeway as I was back and forth to/from the quarry.
Where are these people going.

I few years ago while working in Coffs Harbour, we had major flooding which closed all the pacific hwy north, south and with the Waterfall way closed to the west. The park where I was staying stated there was nowhere travellers could get to due to flooding. Yet every morning of the 5 days the hwys were closed caravanner's would insist on leaving. Who knows where they ended up.

I’m on a few camping pages on book face and there’s a lot of grey nomads that are essentially homeless. They live full time in their caravans but are not allowed to camp anywhere.

Many are moving from one cAmp ground to another has they get told they can’t stay more than a day or two.
Some camp grounds have been permitted to take in these nomads but not all.

Then of course there’s the ones that think they’re exempt from any lockdown rules.
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What is the justification for not being allowed to just go for a drive without stopping anywhere?

Only logic I can think of is to perhaps reduce odds of accidents that could increase demand for resources but I certainly can't see how it could be to do anything with stopping the spread if you are by yourself.
What is the justification? There would be no justification in a Police State with Chairman Dan at the helm. You better watch out your not fined, thrown in a gulag and order to undertake a re-education or indoctrination program to understand who's in control and who's not.
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What is the justification? There would be no justification in a Police State with Chairman Dan at the helm. You better watch out your not fined, thrown in a gulag and order to undertake a re-education or indoctrination program to understand who's in control and who's not.
I don't live in Victoria and all my travel is for essential reasons anyway. It's just not good enough to say it is bad mmkay.

While I can draw some reasonable logic behind the ban and so have stopped there are many other dickheads around the country who can't.

They shouldn't bother writing the ticket in the first place but if they fine me on the way to work or back, it will be withdrawn on appeal easily.

The only contention would be is when I'm going out for essentials and whether they accept that is what I'm doing or not but I stick to local area to buy.

I'm not driving across the city to do so and I think your odds of being stopped would be late at night or in the early morning anyway. Even with reduced traffic it would still be a lucky dip to pick that one person out during normal hours.
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I don't live in Victoria and all my travel is for essential reasons anyway. It's just not good enough to say it is bad mmkay.

While I can draw some reasonable logic behind the ban and so have stopped there are many other dickheads around the country who can't.

They shouldn't bother writing the ticket in the first place but if they fine me on the way to work or back, it will be withdrawn on appeal easily.

The only contention would be is when I'm going out for essentials and whether they accept that is what I'm doing or not but I stick to local area to buy.

I'm not driving across the city to do so and I think your odds of being stopped would be late at night or in the early morning anyway. Even with reduced traffic it would still be a lucky dip to pick that one person out during normal hours.
We're in for a heatwave in Perth this coming weekend. We're allowed to go to the beach, the Premier and Police Commissioner has requested people stick to social distancing, go out and enjoy themselves. I guess we're a great deal smarter here in WA and don't require a dictatorship regime implementing communist policies to control the sheep.
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We're in for a heatwave in Perth this coming weekend. We're allowed to go to the beach, the Premier and Police Commissioner has requested people stick to social distancing, go out and enjoy themselves. I guess we're a great deal smarter here in WA and don't require a dictatorship regime implementing communist policies to control the sheep.
WA have fully closed their border. WA is far less populated than the rest of Australia mate, that is a fact. Perth < 2m compared to Sydney > 5m alone is quite a difference though. A lot more dickheads out this way.
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It's just too complex to draw up rules for every scenario, so blanket rules is what every govt around the world is handing down.

Instead of looking at it from your individual perspective, look at it from the govt perspective.
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It's just too complex to draw up rules for every scenario, so blanket rules is what every govt around the world is handing down.

Instead of looking at it from your individual perspective, look at it from the govt perspective.
I'm not looking at it from my own perspective at all if you look at what I have posted,

I don't agree they need complex rules on this but anyway I'm done arguing the toss on this subject. It makes no difference to my life anyway. I just think the messaging is lazy and could surely be more effective with little effort.
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I dont know of anybody i know getting fined for unessential travel, but the police are cracking down on it. My apprentice got pulled up on his drive home yesterday arvo and asked to show his licence to prove his place of residence. It all lined up. He lives down in helensburg or woolengong or something, so why else be in work clothes to be on that stretch of highway. Yeah its a killjoy, but its proof the screws are clampening and we may have to just comply. The silly thing is why fine people who may be in financial hardship, but i guess if the make examples of enough people, people will be forced to comply.
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I dont know of anybody i know getting fined for unessential travel, but the police are cracking down on it. My apprentice got pulled up on his drive home yesterday arvo and asked to show his licence to prove his place of residence. It all lined up. He lives down in helensburg or woolengong or something, so why else be in work clothes to be on that stretch of highway. Yeah its a killjoy, but its proof the screws are clampening and we may have to just comply. The silly thing is why fine people who may be in financial hardship, but i guess if the make examples of enough people, people will be forced to comply.
And fair enough.

All reports are (and it has also been confirmed by NSW Police Comissioner Fuller) that those getting fines are acting purposely defiant to the laws and ignoring police instructions - like the mass parties advertised on social media, or the people being asked to move on several times only to just act smart and tell the cops to bugger off.

Hopefully they trawl social media for these people and try and catch up with them. In the States they are getting done for terrorism.
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It was better than the real deal, first turn at Monza turned into mayhem:

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The next turn was even better when everyone stacked again because their cars were halal
Big D, are they racing pixels instead of real cars? Is that what I read in your posted link? Perhaps the Wallabies could win a digital Bledisloe Cup...
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Yup, it's a simulation series, it was good seeing the drivers taking risks as they don't have to answer to a team manager about why they bent their multiple of 6 figure car
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That's not the only stimulation series that will need to be played out in digital pixels for the foreseeable future eh Franco....
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