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PooDog · 05-10-2021, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor 57

so, is the Ivermectin that is used here as a cattle drench, the same as the Ivermectin used to treat COVID in the States. I am led to believe they are different drugs, but the same name

Apparently America has the same drench for cattle but it is not the same as the COVID treatment. We are laughing at the Yanks for taking Ivermectin, but what if their 'Ivermectin' is a treatment for COVID?

If it does work Trev it certainly hasn't worked looking at the 600,too dead it's just the anti vaxxers trying to latch onto anything but get vaccinated

I was listening to talkback in the truck on night shift last night and this guy rings up NZ from Indonesia to say that he had knowledge of some government official reporting on statistics from Victoria that the majority of people that died had been double vaccinated he said he'd recieved emails about it

The host debunked it saying the official got the stats the wrong way around and it was actually all the people that had died were not vaccinated he corrected himself 5 minutes later

The amazing thing is that's how quick the anti vaxxers are to latch on to anything that supports their cause even when its false and send it around the world quick as that

Trevor 57 · 05-10-2021, 02:17 PM

yep, like the video of the NSW CHO when he got the numbers around the wrong way, it showed up on an American drag racing site FFS. The vast majority of the the posters on there are Trump supporters, anti-vaccine, anit-COVID, ant-mask, anti-liberal. It is as funny as hell to read some of their posts

For the past few weeks the lock-downs in Australia and the protest marches have loomed high in the post count. I should point out that the busiest part of the forum is totally un-moderated and I mean TOTALLY un-moderated

hayseed · 05-10-2021, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor 57

I should point out that the busiest part of the forum is totally un-moderated and I mean TOTALLY un-moderated

Sounds Like it would be Chockablock full of Keyboard Warriors & Facebook Lawyers & Engineers..

**FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0** · 05-10-2021, 04:30 PM

I see that Australia has now surpassed the United States in the percentage of people being vaccinated. Look out Germany, here we come! 12th is our next goal.

Trevor 57 · 05-10-2021, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hayseed

Sounds Like it would be Chockablock full of Keyboard Warriors & Facebook Lawyers & Engineers..

it is, gets pretty full on at times, people outing people (called 'doxing' on there), people showing up at other peoples doors to make them accountable for what they said on the forum? Although the 'doxing is banned now, it will get you booted for good. Only recently they banned racism as well, before that phew, anything goes. Anything racist will get you an immediate ban

It is pretty funny at times, all the 'election was stolen' stuff. 'Biden is NOT my President' COVID is bull-****, Ivermectin is the best cure

The forum was established by a drag racer and there could be upwards of 2000 people on there at a time, but about 5 years ago he sold it to a Canadian company and they brought the racism and doxing rules in

oh and Facebook is **** lol

nstg8a · 05-10-2021, 04:56 PM

From what I understand when the yanks use ivermectin it’s in conjunction with three other drugs, and it’s the cocktail of those drugs that gives it its effect ness.

It’s sad how quickly people are jumping on suggestions of other treatments.
Many countries around the world are using different treatments with differing levels of success.
Just because it may seem unusual doesn’t mean it won’t work.
People should be asking more questions of the local govt… or where is the promised 4000 icu beds for Victoria?
Why does there appear to be no interest in the media from the obvious conflicts of interest that are being spread around the internet?
If it’s misinformation then address it as such, if it’s true then Investigate it.

All this secrecy just fuels the rumours.

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Trevor 57 · 05-10-2021, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0

I see that Australia has now surpassed the United States in the percentage of people being vaccinated. Look out Germany, here we come! 12th is our next goal.

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where is Isreal on that list, I thought they were the ducks-guts

Citroënbender · 05-10-2021, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor 57

…The forum was established by a drag racer and there could be upwards of 2000 people on there at a time, but about 5 years ago he sold it to a Canadian company and they brought the racism and doxing rules in.

Verticalscope bought that forum?

**GasoLane** · 05-10-2021, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hayseed

Sounds Like it would be Chockablock full of Keyboard Warriors & Facebook Lawyers & Engineers..

Do you mean like people who should read this sign?

roKWiz · 05-10-2021, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GasoLane

Do you mean like people who should read this sign?

I believed everything this guy told me.

Citroënbender · 05-10-2021, 06:02 PM

Can’t you actually get a BSc or BE with 51% in most subjects and the odd Terminating Pass mixed in?

Metdevil · 05-10-2021, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

Just because it may seem unusual doesn’t mean it won’t work.

And what about when doctors warn not to use it because it not only doesn't work, but it also requires an unsafe dose to not work? Then can we address it as misinformation?

Metdevil · 05-10-2021, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CoupeKing

*snip*

Literally the first 30 seconds and it confirms what we already know about vaccines but drops it like a bombshell admission.
Yes, if you are exposed to SARS-CoV-2 you can develop antibodies. The obvious downside is that you've just been exposed to SARS-CoV-2...

The vaccine makes your body develop the antibodies without the exposure to the harmful virus.
This information is no secret and available to anyone who is willing to look for it. No negative anti-vax spin required.

https://www.science.org/content/arti...-remains-vital

Again, this is the point of how vaccines work. Developing the necessary antibodies by exposing yourself to a harmless version of the virus* instead of the harmful one. All knowledge that we've had access to for, what, 80 years?

*these days, there isn't even an inactive virus in vaccines at all to appease anti-vax conspiracy theorists.

PhilT2 · 05-10-2021, 07:02 PM

In the past project veritas has used internet dating sites to set up "dates"for their under cover reporters with staff of the organisation they are targetting. So the guys they are talking to are not providing factual information they're just saying what they hope will get them laid.

**FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0** · 05-10-2021, 07:06 PM

As annoying as it is when I actually want to watch a youtube video, our work has the default selection turned on (and you can't turn it off) to 'restricted mode', which means the majority of the youtube videos posted in this thread are unavailable to me. It does have its advantages

Metdevil · 05-10-2021, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PhilT2

In the past project veritas has used internet dating sites to set up "dates"for their under cover reporters with staff of the organisation they are targetting. So the guys they are talking to are not providing factual information they're just saying what they hope will get them laid.

As I was watching these I thought it sounded more like casual conversation than someone 'whistleblowing', so this makes a lot of sense.

Crap like this is the reason this pandemic has gone on for so long, because what they're sharing is correct, but they've gone and made it seem like it's an exposé on 'big pharma'.
This is exactly the toxic journalism which spins facts into misunderstanding into straight up misinformation...

cosworthfreak · 05-10-2021, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Citroënbender

Can’t you actually get a BSc or BE with 51% in most subjects and the odd Terminating Pass mixed in?

Not really. A lot of ‘Pass’ marks have been 60% in the sciences (especially health sciences) and unis have used negative marking for exams more and more (meaning 60% is harder to get). Can’t just guess your way through.

cosworthfreak · 05-10-2021, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor 57

so, is the Ivermectin that is used here as a cattle drench, the same as the Ivermectin used to treat COVID in the States. I am led to believe they are different drugs, but the same name

Apparently America has the same drench for cattle but it is not the same as the COVID treatment. We are laughing at the Yanks for taking Ivermectin, but what if their 'Ivermectin' is a treatment for COVID?

Hi Trev

The US FDA has published a good info page on this: Why you should not use Ivermectin to treat or prevent COVID-19

Cheers
Jamie

Ben73 · 05-10-2021, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

I feel as flat as hell since having my second jab, no real aches or pains apart from tenderness at the injection site and a slight headache but keep getting waves of nauseus feeling, dizziness, tiredness, dehydration and irritability.

I’m not looking forward to me second vaccine. I have a heart condition and anxiety. I ended up getting checked out in hospital after my first jab due to chest pain.
Oh well can’t do much about it. Ill just hope for the best for the next one.

BENT_8 · 05-10-2021, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by russellw

NSW/VIC

NSW records 603 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 0.9542 (from 0.9539) while the actual line remains below the predictive trend line and based on the 3rd order polynomial, that trend line now has a downward curve again.

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VIC records 1,763 cases in the current period (a new record high) and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 1.0986 (from 1.0834) while the actual line is now well above the predictive trend.

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Week 12 in Victoria ended today with 23,819 cases to date compared to 20,145 at the same point of the 2020 outbreak and 33,891 for the NSW 2021 outbreak. Weekly case numbers sees Victoria closing in on NSW and I expect that those numbers will pass NSW in the next week or so bearing in mind that we are comparing historical data for NSW with current data for Victoria as NSW is about 3.5 weeks ahead. It should be noted that this last week is the first time Victoria has more cases than NSW although they are at different stages of their respective outbreaks.

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The worrying thing from my perspective Russ is that NSW didnt really ramp up its lockdowns until closer to the peak and have managed to get it trending down again, parts of Victoria has been in lockdown for months now and its increasing at a rapid rate of knots despite that.

If i was a Victorian i wouldnt be arguing the point on an internet forum or protesting in the streets, id be getting jabbed ASAP and spending time with loved ones because some of them might not be around this time next year as tin foil as that may sound.

BENT_8 · 05-10-2021, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben73

I’m not looking forward to me second vaccine. I have a heart condition and anxiety. I ended up getting checked out in hospital after my first jab due to chest pain.
Oh well can’t do much about it. Ill just hope for the best for the next one.

I know where you're coming from mate, i too have a heart condition and suffer from anxiety.
If i can do anything to help put your mind at rest let me say that from around 8pm last night the symptoms went away and i went to work today feeling fine.
My advice, drink heaps of water, they tell you that during your booking but i looked around the post jab waiting room and not too many went anywhere near the water coolers, i stood next to it and kept filling my cup and felt ok for the first 18 hrs, the following day i hardly drank anything and had no appetite and i believe this contributed to my feeling of unwell.

Keep us updated, if you need to talk we're here to listen.

CyberWasp · 05-10-2021, 08:14 PM

Does anyone think we might have another spike in numbers in NSW after the NRL Grand Final celebrations?
I am guessing it might start to show at the end of the week.

PooDog · 05-10-2021, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben73

I’m not looking forward to me second vaccine. I have a heart condition and anxiety. I ended up getting checked out in hospital after my first jab due to chest pain.
Oh well can’t do much about it. Ill just hope for the best for the next one.

The 1st one for me was worse than the second felt like Bent 8 did , hopefully your the same

CoupeKing · 05-10-2021, 09:13 PM

Estrogen is strong tonight.

Metdevil · 05-10-2021, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Estrogen is strong tonight.

Because apparently it's feminine to be properly informed? No wonder men typically die younger than women...

slowsnake · 05-10-2021, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor 57

it is, gets pretty full on at times, people outing people (called 'doxing' on there), people showing up at other peoples doors to make them accountable for what they said on the forum? Although the 'doxing is banned now, it will get you booted for good. Only recently they banned racism as well, before that phew, anything goes. Anything racist will get you an immediate ban

It is pretty funny at times, all the 'election was stolen' stuff. 'Biden is NOT my President' COVID is bull-****, Ivermectin is the best cure

The forum was established by a drag racer and there could be upwards of 2000 people on there at a time, but about 5 years ago he sold it to a Canadian company and they brought the racism and doxing rules in

oh and Facebook is **** lol

Do you go onto the dark net Trev?

nstg8a · 05-10-2021, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Metdevil

And what about when doctors warn not to use it because it not only doesn't work, but it also requires an unsafe dose to not work? Then can we address it as misinformation?

What about when doctors disagree?

Ben73 · 06-10-2021, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Estrogen is strong tonight.

Real alphas make vague comments on forums directed to no one in particular.

Citroënbender · 06-10-2021, 12:38 AM

I’m a double Alfa male.

It’s interesting to read all these experiences with Pfizer other than the muscular issues some of my friends had. Starting to think I got off lightly with my A-Z man flu.

Metdevil · 06-10-2021, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

What about when doctors disagree?

They can disagree all they like, they can't come up with the proof that Ivermectin is approved as an anti-viral or effective against covid. If they don't have the evidence to back up their claims then of course it can be claimed as being misinformation.

In any case, I would probably side with the likes of Patient Safety Organisations which agree unanimously rather than outliers. If the FDA, MedSafe, the CDC, and the WHO are all drawing the same conclusion, I would tend to agree with them.

I would also question the doctors who are giving an unapproved medication to their patients, and also point out the hypocrisy of said patients who repeatedly claim that a vaccine is 'experimental' and 'untested' only to then line up for the same...