AU I6'S Come a long way in recent times.

**Stav** · 09-09-2005, 11:22 PM

Just went back and looked at some of the times the AU sixes were running 1 year ago . It is like we were all really excited to see 15 second 1/4 mile passess.
Now it seems the standards and knowledge are being lifted.BMock running a 14.2 in an au,hamo into14.2-3?
What are the limits going to be?How much farther can we take these cars ? Will we see 13 second na daily driver AU six?

FRDGAL · 10-09-2005, 12:57 AM

And not just that, but the AU itself has become quite popular. Not bad for an 'ugly' car

loxxr6 · 10-09-2005, 02:38 AM

I reckon we may see a possible trend to forced induction AU's especially as the AU's drop in value and the turbo/supercharger kits become more affordable. With Snort performance and JMM now releasing stuff its easy power.

As for NA who knows. Maybe we might see 13's ? We're definately inching closer to it.

**Stav** · 10-09-2005, 07:30 AM

Forced induction and the revvier sixes seem to go hand in hand. Is it legal loxx?Is insurance ok with it?

The amount of hotted up AU bodied cars out there is awesome.I think this forum and AU FALCON.COM has seen the re emergence of the AU. I think labelling the AU as an ugly model is ridiculous.A mere put down by some tossers who dont know a decent car if it fell on them.

Ive seen so many nice wheels, body kits and loud exhausts in my travels that its not funny.12 months ago this was not the case.Most AU fords on the street were taxis or mums taxis.

We have all gone on a journey of discovery together to awaken these sleeping beasts of the street. Thanks must go to Jim Mock ,G&D ,Its performance (sydney) wade cams,crow cams,unichip dealers(autotech engineering and APS) ,chiptorque dealers(Lachlan).
All these guys seem to have contributed greatly to our plight in search of a more responsive and enjoyable driving .

As far as bodykits go...I think our site sponsor AWC are the ants pants and bees knees!!

With Brendan currently running low 14's down the 1/4 it will be intersting to see if they get into the 13's in NA form

**Falcon Coupe** · 10-09-2005, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by FRDGAL_AU6

And not just that, but the AU itself has become quite popular. Not bad for an 'ugly' car

I think that's due to the AU's price these days.

The Mighty Red · 10-09-2005, 10:14 AM

Yes its true the Au has tumbled in price but it will pale into significance compared to the BA depreciating level.

The BA has been such a success that the market is just flooded with them,
Sometimes I wonder how the new car market sustains itself with cars not even 18 months old drepreciating 50%.

Yes the AU times are falling but with engineering and rwc problems for turbo's and alike it does make it harder.
Maybe i am looking in the wrong places but i dont hear about any NA BA's that are highly modded pulling good times to compare the AU too,maybe because a stock T will eat one up anyway.

**Stav** · 10-09-2005, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by L.F.C

maybe because a stock T will eat one up anyway.

Dev 5 cammed AU's have an can keep up with xr6ts in standard form.

Kenaz · 10-09-2005, 12:03 PM

It's not just the AU 6's that are getting quicker. There's more than a few e-series I6 guys running very low 14s. Impressive stuff.

Casper · 10-09-2005, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenaz

It's not just the AU 6's that are getting quicker. There's more than a few e-series I6 guys running very low 14s. Impressive stuff.

I think overall the I6 engine is proving itself to be far better than many expected.

buickman · 10-09-2005, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by L.F.C

Yes its true the Au has tumbled in price but it will pale into significance compared to the BA depreciating level.

The BA has been such a success that the market is just flooded with them,
Sometimes I wonder how the new car market sustains itself with cars not even 18 months old drepreciating 50%.

Yes the AU times are falling but with engineering and rwc problems for turbo's and alike it does make it harder.
Maybe i am looking in the wrong places but i dont hear about any NA BA's that are highly modded pulling good times to compare the AU too,maybe because a stock T will eat one up anyway.

The BA's will suffer resale not only because how many have been sold but as the price of fuel as they are gas guzzlers.All the company BA cars main complaints are the fuel consumption.

But I think the AU's are nearing their rock bottom prices for a few years & are not under engineered like the EA's, VT's & some other makes plus can give fairly good fuel economy for a large car. The AU makes a good cheap starting point for a good family & performance car.

buickman

TCK-098 · 10-09-2005, 03:43 PM

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Ive seen so many nice wheels, body kits and loud exhausts in my travels that its not funny.12 months ago this was not the case.Most AU fords on the street were taxis or mums taxis.

Yeah id agree on that one and its great to actually see the Au's are starting to come back and show what can be done on a decent budget and have the performance to go with it.

10-09-2005, 05:51 PM

you see a lot up here in brissy now with crs bodykits there almost as popular as a tarted up v6 commodore with a clubby kit.

jonbays · 10-09-2005, 06:24 PM

The AU will be the six cylinder hottie of the decade like the torana's were in the 70's.

Its because they are cheap and easy to mod.

Those OHV V6's and V8's just arent as easy to play with yourself as a SOHC six.

Walkinshaw · 10-09-2005, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jonbays

The AU will be the six cylinder hottie of the decade like the torana's were in the 70's.

Its because they are cheap and easy to mod.

Those OHV V6's and V8's just arent as easy to play with yourself as a SOHC six.

I think that tag will be held SOLY for the BA XR6T.

**Stav** · 10-09-2005, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Walkinshaw

I think that tag will be held SOLY for the BA XR6T.

Your probably right ..but a force fed au six will give an xr6t big headaches.

EFFalcon · 10-09-2005, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by useless

Your probably right ..but a force fed au six will give an xr6t big headaches.

doubtful.

**Stav** · 10-09-2005, 06:44 PM

I dont know?Really I dont ..especially about that .Especially when Dans AU gets ridiculously quick times. With the same sized engine it really comes down to how much mixture we can stuff into that displacement.But for the sake of sticking to the NA side of things all of our i6 engines come up pretty good..dont you think? But for the sake of this topic the focus was on AU sixes..

Psycho Chicken · 10-09-2005, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by useless

Dev 5 cammed AU's have an can keep up with xr6ts in standard form.

And what short of an AU V8 supercar can keep up with a 9 second XR6T?

Sure it's got heaps of mods, but so would any turbo AU6 worth worrying about.

**Stav** · 10-09-2005, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

And what short of an AU V8 supercar can keep up with a 9 second XR6T?

Sure it's got heaps of mods, but so would any turbo AU6 worth worrying about.

Aha ...I was referring to standard xr6t vs a dev5 mate.An xr6t modded will dust most cars out there and there is no denying that...they are an awesome car.

EFFalcon · 10-09-2005, 06:51 PM

Dan's AU ran 11.8 ... it was long ago that BA's exceeded that.
with a BA into the 9's and plenty running 10's there is a lot of catching up for the AU's to do.
Raw headflow advantages in the BA give it an advantage that even its excessive weight can't overcome.
the DOHC head will outflow the SOHC head without a doubt, the BA just needs a decent set of cams to be developed, especially for n/a

all of the SOHC engines have shown their potential with loads of them running low 14's and a couple running 13's.

**Stav** · 10-09-2005, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by EFFalcon

Dan's AU ran 11.8 ... it was long ago that BA's exceeded that.
with a BA into the 9's and plenty running 10's there is a lot of catching up for the AU's to do.
Raw headflow advantages in the BA give it an advantage that even its excessive weight can't overcome.
the DOHC head will outflow the SOHC head without a doubt, the BA just needs a decent set of cams to be developed, especially for n/a

all of the SOHC engines have shown their potential with loads of them running low 14's and a couple running 13's.

Youre probably right mate.But the AU fords never came out with a factory fitted turbo so there is no real basis to compare in either of our points.If they did then we could probably say one way or the other which was a bit better.

Psycho Chicken · 10-09-2005, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by useless

Aha ...I was referring to standard xr6t vs a dev5 mate.An xr6t modded will dust most cars out there and there is no denying that...they are an awesome car.

What's the point in comparing a stock car to a heavily modded one? Apples and oranges.

**Stav** · 10-09-2005, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

What's the point in comparing a stock car to a heavily modded one? Apples and oranges.

I NEVER intended to make a big deal out if it in the first place. I was just illustrating that us na sixes have a glimmer of hope against a standard xr6t unmodified that is all. To clarify this point futher I will say that an xr6t modded tends to be quicker.I hope I have explained that point so that you understand where I was coming from.

**Stav** · 10-09-2005, 07:04 PM

I think more real comparisons will occur in the coming months as more au owners are going forced as far as turbos go.Then we can start to compare.I mentioned Dans AU because I think that it is quite an impressive vehicle.

10-09-2005, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

What's the point in comparing a stock car to a heavily modded one? Apples and oranges.

personaly for me ,the missus (nik)loves the ba xr6 turbo .but at the end of the day i couldnt justify a $20000 change over .so far ive spent $5000 on the old girl (au s)and with the last mod nearly done ,i reckon i would be pretty confident to back it against a stock xr6 turbo.
but hey if i had $20000 lying around i know wich one i'd be drivin.
jake

**FTE217** · 10-09-2005, 08:41 PM

A lot of positive dreaming here....

Casper · 10-09-2005, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluedriver

A lot of positive dreaming here....

Not really. Mid to low 14 second AU's (or any I6 EB onwards) are just a phone call (and a fair chunk out of your bank account) away.
If I had 5K I could have a 14.5 or less 1/4 I6 VCT in 2 weeks. Its that simple.

13's are a bit more of a stretch financially bit its there for those with deep enough pockets.

Then you have the FI setups. Sub $12K and I could be annoying a hell of a lot of BA GT owners without too much fuss.

The V8 can do all this too of course but 12 and 11 second EB-AU I6's are just a chequebook away now. Its really no harder than booking the car in for whatever times you want and can afford.

Racecraft · 10-09-2005, 08:50 PM

you have to put it into a real world perspective too.. We might have improved alot but at a Willowbank T&T 80 percent of the cars are sub 14.. Between the BOSS cars, LS1, old skool muscle, turbo'd everything else and the flood of lightening quick imports we still have a long way to go before people outside our community consider the i6 a fast car. A pat on the back might be due to keep the enthusiasm flowing but we shouldn't stop now!

SpoolMan · 10-09-2005, 09:04 PM

Love driving the AU6, have plenty of fun, much easier to throw around than my ute...
I have Hamo's AU this weekend.....Hamo is driving my BA.
We want try and keep his AU, even after he buys my ute....

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Originally Posted by Bluedriver

A lot of positive dreaming here....

14.3 From AU6 auto is better than a stock LS1 auto or Boss 260 Auto..
I6 is affordable to play with and getting some good results..
And still having perfect street manners and not being a big pig to drive.

**Stav** · 10-09-2005, 09:37 PM

Considering that Brendan Mock has run a 13.34 in a na six on the 1/4 mile it inspires me and gives me hope that i6 ea-au cars still have plenty of untapped potential. I believe Brendan is running some 180 rwkws .I have to ask the question though..how can a 180 rwkw six get a 13.34 1/4 when some modded v8s cannot do the same with 220 rwkws?What is going on ?Please shed some light on this someone please!!