Mechanic

MR NC FAIRLANE · 25-11-2007, 04:48 AM

Im fed up with with mechanics saying I DONT KNOW! Is there a competant mechanic on the gold coast who knows what they are talking about that can diagnose a problem.

wodahs · 25-11-2007, 05:29 AM

im not bagin you and i dont know what you do for a living but do you know every aspect of your feild ?
and i dont know your vehical or your problems with it or where youve been to fix it , but a general mechanic has to deal with a very wide range of probs and not all have come across all problems to be able tu diagnose them
just makin a complaint isnt helpin you or us fell good
try puttin up the problem to the forum and some one may be able to help with your problem
prob some ones come across the same problem and found out how to fix it

BIGDOG · 25-11-2007, 10:18 AM

If mechanics knew all the answers to every problem do you think we would be in workshop getting dirty and and putting up with Mr & Mrs general public

No we would be in a nice A/C office answering a phone and diagnosing all your faults at the drop of a hat.

And probably getting paid heaps

BIGDOG

Ruger · 25-11-2007, 10:47 AM

BIGDOG is on the money, alot of diagnosing a problem is trial and error. you might have a problem but there is 10 possible causes and thats where the trial and error comes in.

bcr2734 · 25-11-2007, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruger

BIGDOG is on the money, alot of diagnosing a problem is trial and error. you might have a problem but there is 10 possible causes and thats where the trial and error comes in.

but all problems come down to a simple idea. its funny that technology has advanced so far that it still relys on simple ideas forged 50 years ago in most cases. i was talking to a guy down the street the other day and i was dumb founded on some of his ideas about fixing simple problems. Being a mechanic is what you put into it. some are excellent and some just turn up and get paid. any industry has these people. But Mr &Mrs general public are different to our friends on this fourums. I travel 4.5 hrs to see a guy to do performance stuff. But simple servicing and matience problems all get done by me in my workshop.

But some people look for a scapegoat when looking at a car problem. They blame the mechanic or the parts the mechanic fitted. But they sometimes should look at who drives the damn thing like a v8 supercar when it is only a bloody echo. simple idea is this. If it has tits or tyres, it's going to cost you.

olfella · 25-11-2007, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruger

BIGDOG is on the money, alot of diagnosing a problem is trial and error. you might have a problem but there is 10 possible causes and thats where the trial and error comes in.

To be able to diagnose would'nt you need knowledge and experience to keep 'trial and error' to a minimum? I think there is to much of this remove and replace mentality without prior knowledge.

MR NC FAIRLANE · 25-11-2007, 02:46 PM

All these replys and not 1 of of you have mentioned a mechanic. i will post my probs later.

atec77 · 25-11-2007, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MR NC FAIRLANE

Im fed up with with mechanics saying I DONT KNOW! Is there a competant mechanic on the gold coast who knows what they are talking about that can diagnose a problem.

What's the problem ? ( I know one good one in Brisbane) but he is out earning more with a truck atm , damn waste .

AWD Chaser · 25-11-2007, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MR NC FAIRLANE

All these replys and not 1 of of you have mentioned a mechanic. i will post my probs later.

I think your first and second post indicate the problem loud and clear....

If you want a mechanic, any odd mechanic, get the Yellow Pages, and if you don't have a Yellow Pages, ring the operator and ask them to recommend one...

Until you post what issues your having... or what the problem is, there is no point in posting on here, and being a smart alec...

And in answering your first question:

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Is there a competant mechanic on the gold coast who knows what they are talking about that can diagnose a problem.

The answer is yes....

Unco · 25-11-2007, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MR NC FAIRLANE

All these replys and not 1 of of you have mentioned a mechanic. i will post my probs later.

because this is a CAR related forum and you will find a LOT of mechanics here that will take offense to your extremely ignorant post.

you sound typical of someone that knows absolutely nothing about car maintenance and troubleshooting, which would be fine, if you just showed a little bit of respect towards those who do.

svo347 · 25-11-2007, 05:16 PM

Nicely put unco...

ILLaViTaR · 25-11-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGDOG

If mechanics knew all the answers to every problem do you think we would be in workshop getting dirty and and putting up with Mr & Mrs general public

No we would be in a nice A/C office answering a phone and diagnosing all your faults at the drop of a hat.

And probably getting paid heaps

BIGDOG

Fair enough, but we customers shouldn't have to pay you if the problem isn't fixed.

Unco · 25-11-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ILLaViTaR

Fair enough, but we customers shouldn't have to pay you if the problem isn't fixed.

off-topic much?

Eu-GenixX · 25-11-2007, 05:25 PM

it still takes time to diagnose a problem... time is not free....

i'm lucky... i got a mechanic in rocklea who is really good to me.. he spent 45 minutes on my car looking at why my air con wasn't working the other day... and he won't charge me... but he knows i will go to him when i want my car fixed... i also stop in just for a chat quite regularly.. he's a top bloke...

bingoTE50 · 25-11-2007, 11:31 PM

I tend to look for specialists. If its transmission related see a automatic place , if you think its electrical try a auto elect , tyres , brakes , Jax at southport were good for me.
Redcliffe Performance are getting some good reviews for their servicing . A bit of a drive but they are a sponsor and know a lot about fords from what I have been reading on here. I am taking my TE there for its 80k service.

bigsamzef · 26-11-2007, 02:08 AM

how many types of species does a doctor have to treat? only two, male and female.
now how many types of cars does a mechanic have to service? hundreds.
if a doctor didnt diagnose your problem correctly, you would just keep going back until he did diagnosed you correcly.
but if a mechanic didnt diagnose a problem with your car correctly the first time, you'd be straight on the phone effing and blinding etc.
who is treated with more respect within the community? thats right, the doctor.

being a mechanic is just as hard, maybe even harder than being a doctor.
tell you what if you that your incompetent to your mechanic, im sure he'd tell you where to go!

MR NC FAIRLANE · 26-11-2007, 02:47 AM

Your the worst offender big dog ford take your money then say we think we fixed it!

MR NC FAIRLANE · 26-11-2007, 02:50 AM

Ok wodahs all i wanted was someone to point out a good mechanic as there are good and bad in every industry.

MR NC FAIRLANE · 26-11-2007, 02:55 AM

Sure ruger life is trial and error. Diagnostic equipment was invented a long time ago. These days people over analyse everything as the simplest explanation is usally thr right one. and im not personally attacking anyone.

MR NC FAIRLANE · 26-11-2007, 03:01 AM

Your reply is as you put it being a smart alec au3 chaser. How many times has someone siad to you do you no a good painter, car detailer, panel beater ect.

MR NC FAIRLANE · 26-11-2007, 03:07 AM

well unco if mechanics on this forum take offense that would be due to a guilty consience i am not peronally attacking anyone. one of my mates was awsome at diagnosing and repairing but he moved overseas.

MR NC FAIRLANE · 26-11-2007, 03:09 AM

Thanks bingo te 50 for the info and a positive reply

MR NC FAIRLANE · 26-11-2007, 03:16 AM

Thats a poor analogy bigamzet as the principals are the same for all cars and lets not forget all the diagnosing equipment available today. So what your saying is i should take to someone who has virtually no customers so then he/she could spend more time to accurately diagnose the problem.

ILLaViTaR · 26-11-2007, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Eu-GenixX

it still takes time to diagnose a problem... time is not free....

Yeah but why should someone have to pay for nothing?

There's always a reason why something doesn't work and honestly it's the mechanics fault if he cant find it. Why should someone have to pay someone for nothing?

fmc351 · 26-11-2007, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ILLaViTaR

Fair enough, but we customers shouldn't have to pay you if the problem isn't fixed.

Why not? Apart from the obvious it isnt fixed. Its not the mechanics problem your car has a fault, nor is it necessarily his problem he cant diagnose it. For example, an intermittent fault is hard to diagnose if it isnt acting up when he/she looks at it.

They have still dedicated their time and resources to try to fix your problem.

The other thing people dont seem to realise is the dependency of parts on other parts. When a car has a few K on it, its likely the part that has failed, is just the tip of the iceberg. And theres very few customers that like hearing their pride and joy is actually not all that great, and in need of a lot more than the obvious part, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Eg: You replace the ball joints, but the rubbers are stuffed too, and the wheel bearings need doing. Shocks and springs are getting sad too. You just want ball joints done though, so the guy does the best he can for you. But when it doesnt handle any better, or the clunk is still there, you blame the mechanic.

red_hotxr6 · 26-11-2007, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MR NC FAIRLANE

Im fed up with with mechanics saying I DONT KNOW! Is there a competant mechanic on the gold coast who knows what they are talking about that can diagnose a problem.

I know exactly how you feel on this point, i had a miss in my xf for YEARS, and i have lost count on how many mechanics had a look at the car to try and solve the problem. One place in brisbane there were 2 mechanics there the old guy took the car for a drive and came back said nothing was wrong, the young guy took it out and said yup, something definitely wrong, and said it was electrical....it wasnt.........another time took the car to ultra tune, they had it for 3 days, they put it under load....upshot, they couldnt find the problem..and they set the timing back to 10 degrees..which retarded it... another 2 mechanics had the engine pulled down and still the problem persisted..the car went to ford.at spring hill...still no go..went to the brock shop..gasp couldnt afford there price...anyway after years and god knows how many mechanics ranging in age from 25 to 55, i happened on a mechanic here in brisbane from the U.K who took the car for a drive after i told him my story and he told me right off the bat what the problem was. Now it only because my car was the SVO, that i perseverd with it over the years otherwise with all the mechanics that i had seen here in brisbane who did not have a clue and those that looked..worked on..and did not solve my problem...geez i could have bought one of the better xf,s or e series models on this site and come out ahead.
Ok really if anyone is interested in this mechanic, pm Jodie, and she will let me know, cause i dont know if i can put the name up here, and it was the AFM, that was the problem...a $150.00..AFM and $180.00 to have it recalibrated and 2 dyno runs. What i couldnt understand is why the plder mechanics couldnt pick this problem up as they would have cut there eye teeth on these cars when they were apprentices and then dealt with them later on. NIGHTHAWK..

Unco · 26-11-2007, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ILLaViTaR

Yeah but why should someone have to pay for nothing?

There's always a reason why something doesn't work and honestly it's the mechanics fault if he cant find it. Why should someone have to pay someone for nothing?

you're saying that a mechanic's time diagnosing a problem is worth $0 in your books. with that attitude it's no wonder people like you can't find a good mechanic. good luck finding someone who is interested in working on your car when you tell them that their time is worth nothing to you.

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as for MR 7 posts in a row, how about posting your problem, or did you just start this thread to stir.

Casablanca · 26-11-2007, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Unco

you're saying that a mechanic's time diagnosing a problem is worth $0 in your books. with that attitude it's no wonder people like you can't find a good mechanic. good luck finding someone who is interested in working on your car when you tell them that their time is worth nothing to you.

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as for MR 7 posts in a row, how about posting your problem, or did you just start this thread to stir.

i agree what is the deal with you unco a mechanic can only do so much how about you tell us what you do for a living and we pick everything you know apart why dont you think before you post stupid answers.

It looks as if he did just start this post to stir sh!t.

MR NC FAIRLANE · 26-11-2007, 05:07 PM

well its up to the mechanic to say you need this,this and this if i only do this you will still have a rattle or knock. then its up to the customer to say then fix it. or the mechanic should let the customer know more repairs are needed and the repair today wont fix the entire problem. As this is normal practice for honest and reiable mechanics

MR NC FAIRLANE · 26-11-2007, 05:22 PM

Thanks red_hot xr6 i cant believe no one can refer me to a good mechanic on the gold coast. I will say it again i am not personally attacking anyone most of you replying are not mechanics. the problem is the car is running rich. After paying a imposter $100 to diagnose he told me oxygen sensor faulty. the next day i purchased 1 new reset ecu as instructed the car ran better but its still running rich. All new air filter, plugs, leads, genuine ford 92 deg thermostat. new hi flow cat 2.5 system. he came back a second time and said im not sure it could be bla bla. before i called the imposter the ca was at another place for 2 days so now can you understand.