What Car for my young bloke ?

**buggerlugs** · 02-11-2009, 12:38 PM

Looking at a first car for my young bloke. He was thinking of something like a manual Toyota Corolla for economy. I was thinking of something like a BF XR 6 , 6 speed, maybe on Gas. At least that way he would have something in front of him. I have read quite a few posts on the Fords on Gas. Open to suggestions................

Jack91 · 02-11-2009, 12:42 PM

Whats the budget? And whats it to be used for?

HLC · 02-11-2009, 12:58 PM

get an AU2-3 Fairmont.

some nice clean examples around for great money, and still go well on gas.

good cheap motoring.

trippytaka · 24-11-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HLC

get an AU2-3 Fairmont.

some nice clean examples around for great money, and still go well on gas.

good cheap motoring.

ouldn't agree more. I picked up an AU 2 Forte last year for $5,000. 120,000km ol bloke owned it, brilliant condition. Tell me any other car in the market you can get that amount of car for that money! A 'rolla, of same age ad miles will set you back 8k.

Mr Brooksy · 02-11-2009, 01:05 PM

My Dad made me buy an XE so that I could learn how to pull it apart and put it together without the use of a supercomputer! Its safety features included a steering wheel, and pedals... as well as a padock basher and 40acres to learn.

So that would be my suggestion. Buy something he can tinker with. Saves thousands in the long run!

sgt_doofey · 02-11-2009, 01:09 PM

Speaking from experience, my EL on gas is cheaper to run than a 1.8L Toyota Corolla.
I'd recommend the large car on LPG if it comes down to being economical (cheap) to run.

Smoke Pursuit · 02-11-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sgt_doofey

Speaking from experience, my EL on gas is cheaper to run than a 1.8L Toyota Corolla.
I'd recommend the large car on LPG if it comes down to being economical (cheap) to run.

How reliables an EL on gas going to be tho?

Seriously id go a corolla before id go an EL on gas, for the sheer reliability factor!

sgt_doofey · 02-11-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

How reliables an EL on gas going to be tho?

Seriously id go a corolla before id go an EL on gas, for the sheer reliability factor!

10 years and 200,000kms later, just the head, but that's a personality trait for the EL's and has nothing to do with the gas system. All I've ever done is wear and tear items, no major mechanical works have been needed.

Smoke Pursuit · 02-11-2009, 01:14 PM

BF XR6 would be okay, but may be less reliable converting to gas (yes i hate gas equiped cars).

Depends on budget as above and where he will be travelling in it.

Fordman · 02-11-2009, 01:16 PM

I'm 18 and bought my own BA FALCON XT, cheap, reliable and can have gas although i dont at the moment.

Skotty · 02-11-2009, 01:19 PM

My EF was on gas, not a single problem...

And hell yeah, Its cheap than my sisters 1.8L corolla... I done 2,000kms on $100 of gas

win win... 1000kms and the corolla was around $100 - $120 somewhere my sister says...

Dave_Obsession · 02-11-2009, 01:21 PM

I know if I'd had a BF XR6 as my first car, I would have been far too reckless with it and would probably have ended up putting it into a wall somewhere.......young blokes should get their experience up on cars that just aren't that powerful.....so they can learn to drive properly, not fly along and endanger others.....make no mistake, 120 hours (as a learner) is only just the beginning - they can't say that they are 'experienced' behind the wheel...

My EA falcon was just the job for a first car......powerful enough to get from A to B, but not powerful enough to go hooning around trying to impress my mates and the girls....and putting other road users at risk.....

You see all these P platers driving around in souped up VS / VT commodores, or EL falcons, or brand new BMW's etc, and whilst I still get angry when they do stupid things.....on some level I feel sorry for them, because they don't know any better.....quite often it takes a good crash for them to wake up.....I know that's what happened to me!!! And I'm not that old (24)...

I see L platers driving Monaro's and XR8's etc and I just shake my head......

I actually reckon your young fella's idea of a Corolla is actually pretty sensible!!! Even if he has it for only 12 months, to help him find his feet out there, it's pretty smart!

Smoke Pursuit · 02-11-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dave93761

I know if I'd had a BF XR6 as my first car, I would have been far too reckless with it and would probably have ended up putting it into a wall somewhere.......young blokes should get their experience up on cars that just aren't that powerful.....so they can learn to drive properly, not fly along and endanger others.....make no mistake, 120 hours (as a learner) is only just the beginning - they can't say that they are 'experienced' behind the wheel...

My EA falcon was just the job for a first car......powerful enough to get from A to B, but not powerful enough to go hooning around trying to impress my mates and the girls....and putting other road users at risk.....

You see all these P platers driving around in souped up VS / VT commodores, or EL falcons, or brand new BMW's etc, and whilst I still get angry when they do stupid things.....on some level I feel sorry for them, because they don't know any better.....quite often it takes a good crash for them to wake up.....I know that's what happened to me!!! And I'm not that old (24)...

I see L platers driving Monaro's and XR8's etc and I just shake my head......

I actually reckon your young fella's idea of a Corolla is actually pretty sensible!!! Even if he has it for only 12 months, to help him find his feet out there, it's pretty smart!

My first proper car was an AUIII XR6 VCT with very low kms on it.. And i actually drove that care more careful then most of my friends drove their $500 Toyota Corollas.

It comes down to the individual and how they were brought up.. I wouldnt rule out buying my son a BF XR6 if I am lucky enough to have one, because more then likely he will have the same love for cars that I do and will have been brought up to look after his assets..

Im not against giving kids decent cars that are safe and reliable.. Even if they are good hoon cars if the kids responsible and actually appreciates the car then they aren't going to hoon in it!!

Different story if you go buy them an XR6 Turbo lol!

vinnie226 · 03-11-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

My first proper car was an AUIII XR6 VCT with very low kms on it.. And i actually drove that care more careful then most of my friends drove their $500 Toyota Corollas.

It comes down to the individual and how they were brought up.. I wouldnt rule out buying my son a BF XR6 if I am lucky enough to have one, because more then likely he will have the same love for cars that I do and will have been brought up to look after his assets..

Im not against giving kids decent cars that are safe and reliable.. Even if they are good hoon cars if the kids responsible and actually appreciates the car then they aren't going to hoon in it!!

Different story if you go buy them an XR6 Turbo lol!

i agree, i currently have an bf xr6 manual and i get my license very soon, now my parents wouldn't have let me buy that car if i wasn't responsible. at the end of the day all cars can be dangerous, it comes down to how stupid the driver is because any car can go fast when pushed.

Hords · 03-11-2009, 10:28 AM

I would think a BF XR6 is going to cost a sh7tload more to insure than the corolla for a new licence holder.

Skotty · 02-11-2009, 01:29 PM

My first car was a KS Verada Xi, when I was 18... and it was probably a good move because it was underpowered something shocking, and FWD, but I learn how to drive and knew that it was a safe car and I couldn't get into a great deal of trouble in it.

**buggerlugs** · 02-11-2009, 06:36 PM

Well we have a friend who has a dealers licence and some of the prices he can get fairly low kilometer vehicles for is pretty staggering. Probly spend around 10k. Young bloke been driving since he was 10, in quite a lot of different vehicles. What sort of range would he get in say a BF manual ? How many litre tank ? Appreciate the comments and suggestions........

Wolfinsheepsclothing · 02-11-2009, 07:05 PM

Mate if my old man brought me a late model falcon for my first car i would have thought all my christmases had came at once

: seriously though i think it is to powerful,how about a smaller ford or if you have to the toyota :togo:

**Dave R** · 02-11-2009, 07:15 PM

Atleast you won't find him hooning in a Corolla. BF XR might be a different story...

naddis01 · 02-11-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Adrenaline

Atleast you won't find him hooning in a Corolla. BF XR might be a different story...

Not necessarily. My parents only had a Mazda 121 when I was on my P's. It didnt stop me from hooning around.

They will hoon around in whatever they have if thats what they want to do.

Franco Cozzo · 02-11-2009, 07:21 PM

I was looking around for ages for a BA XR6 in manual and couldn't find anyone who actually had them, went to about 15 dealerships and the only manual Falcon i found was an F6 which I couldn't afford, or be legally allowed to drive, all of them on carsales were $17,500+ from the ones I could see, so I went after my next car on the list, a 2000 model R34 Nissan Skyline, it was $11,400, had been smoked in but other than that, it was in alright condition and I had booked a test drive, but some bastard bought it on me 2 days before, so quickly looking for another car I spotted two cars I was interested in, Mazda 6 Sports Luxury which I was dead set on and an E36 BMW 328i Coupe, they where manual and fully optioned, on my way to the dealership we come across Max Kirwin Mazda in Preston so we took a while to look at the cars, found nothing interesting there so we moved on, I got to the dealer and the Mazda had sold on me 20 minutes earlier, quite ****ed off I went to the BMW and opened the door, but it dropped in my hand and alarm bells started ringing, the AUDI there also had water in the oil, the only other manual car they had was a SS Commodore.

So very ****ed off, my parents talk me into buying a new car, so I go into a Ford dealership and lay down $18,000 of my own hard earned on a car I don't like.

Long story short, I'm out $18,000 and stuck with a car I REALLY don't like. If you're buying the car, get what ever its your cash, your descision but if its HIS money like in my situation, talk it over and look for something HE wants.

Also you won't get raped as hard with a used car as you will with something new like me on depreciation.

Thats my story of my first car.

R0BD0G · 02-11-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by XCPWSF

I was looking around for ages for a BA XR6 in manual and couldn't find anyone who actually had them, went to about 15 dealerships and the only manual Falcon i found was an F6 which I couldn't afford, or be legally allowed to drive, all of them on carsales were $17,500+ from the ones I could see, so I went after my next car on the list, a 2000 model R34 Nissan Skyline, it was $11,400, had been smoked in but other than that, it was in alright condition and I had booked a test drive, but some bastard bought it on me 2 days before, so quickly looking for another car I spotted two cars I was interested in, Mazda 6 Sports Luxury which I was dead set on and an E36 BMW 328i Coupe, they where manual and fully optioned, on my way to the dealership we come across Max Kirwin Mazda in Preston so we took a while to look at the cars, found nothing interesting there so we moved on, I got to the dealer and the Mazda had sold on me 20 minutes earlier, quite ****ed off I went to the BMW and opened the door, but it dropped in my hand and alarm bells started ringing, the AUDI there also had water in the oil, the only other manual car they had was a SS Commodore.

So very ****ed off, my parents talk me into buying a new car, so I go into a Ford dealership and lay down $18,000 of my own hard earned on a car I don't like.

Long story short, I'm out $18,000 and stuck with a car I REALLY don't like. If you're buying the car, get what ever its your cash, your descision but if its HIS money like in my situation, talk it over and look for something HE wants.

Also you won't get raped as hard with a used car as you will with something new like me on depreciation.

Thats my story of my first car.

when all else fails buy a datsun...

Bucknaked · 02-11-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by XCPWSF

I was looking around for ages for a BA XR6 in manual and couldn't find anyone who actually had them, went to about 15 dealerships and the only manual Falcon i found was an F6 which I couldn't afford, or be legally allowed to drive, all of them on carsales were $17,500+ from the ones I could see, so I went after my next car on the list, a 2000 model R34 Nissan Skyline, it was $11,400, had been smoked in but other than that, it was in alright condition and I had booked a test drive, but some bastard bought it on me 2 days before, so quickly looking for another car I spotted two cars I was interested in, Mazda 6 Sports Luxury which I was dead set on and an E36 BMW 328i Coupe, they where manual and fully optioned, on my way to the dealership we come across Max Kirwin Mazda in Preston so we took a while to look at the cars, found nothing interesting there so we moved on, I got to the dealer and the Mazda had sold on me 20 minutes earlier, quite ****ed off I went to the BMW and opened the door, but it dropped in my hand and alarm bells started ringing, the AUDI there also had water in the oil, the only other manual car they had was a SS Commodore.

So very ****ed off, my parents talk me into buying a new car, so I go into a Ford dealership and lay down $18,000 of my own hard earned on a car I don't like.

Long story short, I'm out $18,000 and stuck with a car I REALLY don't like. If you're buying the car, get what ever its your cash, your descision but if its HIS money like in my situation, talk it over and look for something HE wants.

Also you won't get raped as hard with a used car as you will with something new like me on depreciation.

Thats my story of my first car.

I agree. If the boy wants a carolla, then it's a sensible choice. It will be cheaper to maintain.

I owned my dream car, my dad made me trade it for a magna. I still regret selling it, and I've searching for it evar since. 20 years ago I sold her. Would kill to find her again and buy it back

jcxr · 03-11-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by XCPWSF

I was looking around for ages for a BA XR6 in manual and couldn't find anyone who actually had them, went to about 15 dealerships and the only manual Falcon i found was an F6 which I couldn't afford, or be legally allowed to drive, all of them on carsales were $17,500+ from the ones I could see, so I went after my next car on the list, a 2000 model R34 Nissan Skyline, it was $11,400, had been smoked in but other than that, it was in alright condition and I had booked a test drive, but some bastard bought it on me 2 days before, so quickly looking for another car I spotted two cars I was interested in, Mazda 6 Sports Luxury which I was dead set on and an E36 BMW 328i Coupe, they where manual and fully optioned, on my way to the dealership we come across Max Kirwin Mazda in Preston so we took a while to look at the cars, found nothing interesting there so we moved on, I got to the dealer and the Mazda had sold on me 20 minutes earlier, quite ****ed off I went to the BMW and opened the door, but it dropped in my hand and alarm bells started ringing, the AUDI there also had water in the oil, the only other manual car they had was a SS Commodore.

So very ****ed off, my parents talk me into buying a new car, so I go into a Ford dealership and lay down $18,000 of my own hard earned on a car I don't like.

Long story short, I'm out $18,000 and stuck with a car I REALLY don't like. If you're buying the car, get what ever its your cash, your descision but if its HIS money like in my situation, talk it over and look for something HE wants.

Also you won't get raped as hard with a used car as you will with something new like me on depreciation.

Thats my story of my first car.

Couldnt have been looking too hard, BlackBa sold his immaculate Ba Xr6 manual, lowered, tint, XR8 bonnet, 19's etc for $14,ooo.

buickman · 03-11-2009, 04:22 PM

An EF/EL or AU on gas would be a good choice with air bags and fairly cheap to maintain.

I'm using a 2000 model 4 cyl Camry as an everyday driver to work and shopping centres. ( cars not mine )
It averages 560-600 Kim’s out of a tank around the city and the boot is bigger than the Ford but the turning circle is woeful and it’s not a car that attracts attention but does not have street creed for a young male driver who likes to show off a bit. But they are very reliable and cheap to repair which is a consideration for a young person not earning a great wage for a 1st car.

Franco Cozzo · 03-11-2009, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jcxr

Couldnt have been looking too hard, BlackBa sold his immaculate Ba Xr6 manual, lowered, tint, XR8 bonnet, 19's etc for $14,ooo.

I had been looking VERY hard, he put his up a few months after I bought my car which REALLY ****ed me off because after looking and looking, something finally had come up. No one wants to sell the manuals in that price range, all the autos are like $12-$13K and the manuals were $17.5K plus. I had one offer for $15,000 but the car had 150,000km+ on it with no service books at all, I wasn't going to risk that.

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Originally Posted by Hords

I would think a BF XR6 is going to cost a sh7tload more to insure than the corolla for a new licence holder.

No its not, its all about the same regardless of the car, which is what I found out when it come to comprehensive insurance with justcar, everything was about the $2200-$3000 a year mark with huge excess no matter what it was. BA Falcon/Fairlane to R34 Skyline/JZA80 Supra/Nissan 300ZX which are the "hoon" cars we apparently always kill ourselves in.

GB1186 · 02-11-2009, 07:22 PM

Go a el xr6 looks good goes good and is a good first car and probely cheaper on gas then the. The bf would be to much of a car for a new driver but i might be wrong he could be a good driver ??

barra265t · 02-11-2009, 07:27 PM

RA28 Celica.. simple, RWD, and the only Toyota with style and charisma (think mini-mustang)

LOWBA6 · 02-11-2009, 08:06 PM

Manual EL xr6 would be pretty sweet for a first car. Can get really clean examples for around 7k+ and they look nice! My old man went halves with me on an EF Fairmont for my first car. It was a money pit and still is but it was a lot of fun. I Ended up converting it to manual which was a lot of fun. Dont be shy of ones with a few kms as they could have had the head gasket done already which will save a lot of money!

bcr2734 · 02-11-2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by buggerlugs

Looking at a first car for my young bloke. He was thinking of something like a manual Toyota Corolla for economy. I was thinking of something like a BF XR 6 , 6 speed, maybe on Gas. At least that way he would have something in front of him. I have read quite a few posts on the Fords on Gas. Open to suggestions................

Series 3 landrover, can only do 80kph and bullet proof and cheap for repairs and he will learn how to work on old cars and look after them. I love them