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Old 09-03-2011, 04:16 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Ford will bounce back: Graziano

A good news story perhaps?

http://www.carpoint.com.au/news/2011...graziano-23969

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The president and CEO of Ford Australia, Robert Graziano, says his company will recover from its weak start to 2011.

Although Ford's January and February sales amounted to a 1 per cent increase compared with the same period last year (compared to a 1.7 per cent dip across the market) locally-made Fords were hit hard. Falcon sales were down by 43.5 per cent, Falcon ute sales were down 13.8 per cent and Territory sales were down by 5.7 per cent. Every imported model in Ford's line-up posted significant sales gains, effectively picking up the slack.

As a result of weak sales of the locally-made vehicles, the Broadmeadows-based carmaker cut production to three days a week for the month of March – but will return to five-day shifts from next month as it ramps up for the arrival of the new Territory.

"I anticipate we'll be back [five days a week] by the end of the month. We had to slow down the factory to match demand," Graziano told the Carsales Network.

"We didn't want to be in a position where we were building cars simply for the purpose of [offering dealer discounts]," he stated.

"We were in runout for the Territory, and Falcon was affected by the typically weak fleet and government sales at this time of year.

"We will bounce back, though. I'm very optimistic about the rest of the year. We are about to launch the new Territory and we have some activity on Falcon later in the year, in particular with EcoBoost (four-cylinder) and LPI (liquid injected LPG)."

Graziano said it was premature to link the future of the Falcon's local production based on "two months of results".

The future of the Falcon beyond 2015 has been under a cloud since the global boss of Ford Alan Mulally said there would be "no more one-off cars for one-off countries". Sales of the Falcon have been falling for the better part of the past decade.

Last year, fewer than 30,000 Falcons were sold in Australia – the weakest result in the 51-year history of the nameplate. Just 10 years ago, large cars such as the Falcon and Commodore accounted for 25 per cent of all new-vehicle sales. Last year they accounted for 10 per cent.

The facelifted Ford Territory is due in showrooms in April. Ford has already built 290 vehicles in two batches (90 and 200) and has corralled them ready for shipping to dealers.
For what it's worth. I suspect there will be others dribbled out this week from Carpoint as it seems they 'save stuff for later'.

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Old 09-03-2011, 06:03 PM   #2
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Yep, Even Ford can only take the crap from the media for so long. I expect Ford to come out punching very soon, these doomsday articles are beyond the joke and i am sure the U.S see this and how much damage it is making.
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Old 09-03-2011, 06:16 PM   #3
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ford's development cycle is simply too slow. no point harping about what you will be bringing out later in the year when your sales are crap now.
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Old 09-03-2011, 06:30 PM   #4
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ford's development cycle is simply too slow. no point harping about what you will be bringing out later in the year when your sales are crap now.

Better to release it late, than to recall every vehicle for expensive defects.
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Old 09-03-2011, 09:07 PM   #5
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Better to release it late, than to recall every vehicle for expensive defects.
Agreed. EA anyone?
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Graziano said it was premature to link the future of the Falcon's local production based on "two months of results".
haha, he's obviously been browsing AFF!!
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haha, he's obviously been browsing AFF!!
Nah I'm sure he is appraised of the drivel that...err, Drivel pump out on a daily basis.
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Old 09-03-2011, 07:56 PM   #8
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I guess their are Ford workers here who can verify the truthfullness of the comments -

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We didn't want to be in a position where we were building cars simply for the purpose of [offering dealer discounts]," he stated.
There have been comments in other threads from Ford workers that stock was building up in the factories and out in the car parks. They should be able to verify if those stock levels are falling. Anyone know the answer??
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Old 10-03-2011, 12:24 AM   #9
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There have been comments in other threads from Ford workers that stock was building up in the factories and out in the car parks. They should be able to verify if those stock levels are falling. Anyone know the answer??
Check out http://www.nearmap.com// and fly to Broadmeadows to see for yourself! Absolutely STAGGERING!! (Photos are from Jan 29, 2011).
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Check out http://www.nearmap.com// and fly to Broadmeadows to see for yourself! Absolutely STAGGERING!! (Photos are from Jan 29, 2011).
Thats insane..I'd hate to think how long some of those cars might have been sitting there if one was accidently overlooked for whatever reason.

Edit: look at the grass beside the carpark. Its dead in places where cars have been parked previously for a period of time.

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Old 10-03-2011, 12:33 PM   #11
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Check out http://www.nearmap.com// and fly to Broadmeadows to see for yourself! Absolutely STAGGERING!! (Photos are from Jan 29, 2011).

I only counted 2600 cars. (Are there more stored inside). Does raise a few questions tho.

1) How can you only be making to order, when you have 2600 cars sitting around the factory.
2) If you are still making 120 Falcons a day, during your 3 day week (1440 a month), and you have only sold 3700 falcons/ Utes in the last two months (and this continues), then wouldnt it take about 4 months to clear the backlog.

Oh well, i guess the person who has to go around and turn them over every month has job security for a while.
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Check out http://www.nearmap.com// and fly to Broadmeadows to see for yourself! Absolutely STAGGERING!! (Photos are from Jan 29, 2011).
they aren't all falcons.
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they aren't all falcons.
Lots of Utes and Territorys in there too.....
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Looks like plenty of white ones in storage.

Also, the staff car park looks empty...
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Old 10-03-2011, 09:06 AM   #15
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Looks like plenty of white ones in storage.

Also, the staff car park looks empty...
Jan 29 was a Saturday, so that should explain the lack of staff.
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The fact is Falcon needs a complete face lift. We can talk about the differences between models, but if you go back a few years ford when introducing a new model at least changed the exterior of the car enough that you could see this was different. It was new, they changed the lights and bolt on panels changed the grill. This was done every new model from the XK onward. At least they changed it enough every 2 years at least. Platform changes every 10 years or so are fine. But now you have to look hard to see the differences now. I'm thoroughly sick of silver based cars. Just my opinion.

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I find it ironic that the new TCDI Territorys now gives better fuel economy than a Falcon sedan...
Maybe Ford 's future is better served building Escape and Territory here and just import sedans..
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I find it ironic that the new TCDI Territorys now gives better fuel economy than a Falcon sedan...
Maybe Ford 's future is better served building Escape and Territory here and just import sedans..
Until EcoBoost Falcon arrives
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They have also claimed they have a build up of cars that are waiting to be shipped to flood affected areas. I guess there might be a backlog of deliveries due to them not being able to be shipped during Jan/Feb due to road closures etc.

I don't know wether that has been resolved by now or not.
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I'd be interested to know how many Commodores are in the car park at Elizabeth. My guess is more than 2600.
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I'd be interested to know how many Commodores are in the car park at Elizabeth. My guess is more than 2600.
I wanna know how many Caprice PPVs are in that car park.....
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I'd be interested to know how many Commodores are in the car park at Elizabeth. My guess is more than 2600.
Doesn't look like anywhere near 2600 to me
http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-34.75126...h&nmd=20110123
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Doesn't look like anywhere near 2600 to me
http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-34.75126...h&nmd=20110123

They normally use Mannheim auction grounds off the Geelong Freeway.

And the figure seems to be 8000.
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They normally use Mannheim auction grounds off the Geelong Freeway.
No they do not.

That would be Prix Car's grounds, not Manheim auctions.
http://www.prixcar.com.au/fac_vic.htm
I believe that was a one off during the gfc in 2008 when they literally ran out of room at Elizabeth.
Prix Car is now full of Jap and Euro imports. Not a Holden in sight.
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And the figure seems to be 8000.
Where is this figure coming from?
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Where is this figure coming from?
From here if true.

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I've been forecasting injections of numerous down days since August last year and I dont think we've seen the end of it by a long way.

Holden aren't really in any better a situation, they have something like 8000 unsold cars in the pipeline.
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Doesn't look like anywhere near 2600 to me
http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-34.75126...h&nmd=20110123
Looks like about 1500 vehicles there, are they storing in other areas too?
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Doesn't look like anywhere near 2600 to me
http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-34.75126...h&nmd=20110123
Bear in mind that photo wazs taken on 23 Janurary and they have had near two months of full production since then.........
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Going by the timeline on the picture, it doesnt seem to have been a recent event tho. It appears that the lot started to get heavily built up about July 2010, and has stayed there since.
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Going by the timeline on the picture, it doesnt seem to have been a recent event tho. It appears that the lot started to get heavily built up about July 2010, and has stayed there since.
Certainly when I went to the plant in October '10 there were heaps of cars parked up outside.
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One of my jobs is to monitor probably stock levels at Holden & Ford for work, I use the nearmap photos and tracking of production rate and vfacts sales.

The graphs and photos are very concerning, it peaked somewhere around 6,000 for FG Sedan, has dropped recently to below 5,000 but has risen in Feb again due to the poor sales.

I've been forecasting injections of numerous down days since August last year and I dont think we've seen the end of it by a long way.

Holden aren't really in any better a situation, they have something like 8000 unsold cars in the pipeline.
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