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18-06-2013, 10:35 AM | #1 | ||
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Just heard on the news that Holden has called a meeting with all staff and supplier representatives for later today... Any idea why?
The news report put a negative spin on it and mentioned Ford closure as a comparison. Fingers crossed not bad news.
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18-06-2013, 10:56 AM | #2 | ||
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hmm, could it be they join ford in a 2016 shutdown?
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18-06-2013, 11:05 AM | #3 | ||
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Someone told me yesterday that GM employees were being asked to accept a $200-300/wk paycut in order to "guarantee" their job for next decade
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18-06-2013, 11:19 AM | #4 | ||
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If it is just a paycut to staff, why are they calling in supplier reps?
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18-06-2013, 03:45 PM | #5 | ||
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I would assume supplier contracts will also come under renegotiation?
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18-06-2013, 11:20 AM | #6 | ||
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It's also rumoured Holden need at least 100 more workers to take redundancy to stay afloat.
If they don't get the more funding from the Government they're after, they'll go the way of Ford anyway. |
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18-06-2013, 11:20 AM | #7 | ||
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My prediction:
-Commodore as we know it to finish in 2017 -All manufacturing will be with complete knock-down kits like the Cruze -Very few Australian components, hence why they require the suppliers at the meeting -Job cuts Holden are committed to manufacturing in Australia, so this will not be a Ford-like announcement.
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18-06-2013, 11:31 AM | #8 | |||
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18-06-2013, 02:28 PM | #10 | ||
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Most of Oz doesn't know that! You ask most people, and they tell you that the Cruze is made here. And it is, but not really - it's just assembled.
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18-06-2013, 02:40 PM | #11 | ||
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And half of them think anything else with a holden badge is made here too
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18-06-2013, 02:42 PM | #12 | ||
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And Holden word it accordingly. To be called "Made in Australia", i think by definition more than 50% of it has to be done here, but Holden say the Cruze is "built" in Australia. They would be taken to court by the ACCC if they were to use "Made in Australia" for the Cruze.
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18-06-2013, 10:26 PM | #13 | |||
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18-06-2013, 10:53 PM | #14 | ||
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and yet its still illegal to slap that logo in your avatar on it. australian made and made in australia should never be confused to mean the same thing.
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19-06-2013, 08:09 AM | #15 | ||
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Name a car that is worthy of that logo then? Most here regard Falcon and Territory as true blue Aussie yet they are full of imported components. What about the "all Aussie" I6 which has a Mexican cast head? So many hypocrites here who are happy to bend the truth and invent their own facts when it is convenient for them.
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18-06-2013, 11:09 PM | #16 | ||
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Inferior Sheetmetal imported from China, stamped here, at the detriment of Bluescope .
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19-06-2013, 06:12 AM | #17 | ||
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all holden steel comes from "one steel", period.
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18-06-2013, 12:06 PM | #18 | |||
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Article here suggests it is just a run of the mill "state of the nation" meeting. And unions have come out and categorically denied pay cuts were on the table..........
http://www.victorharbortimes.com.au/...s-union/?cs=12
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18-06-2013, 12:13 PM | #19 | |||
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Are the Unions saying there will be no pay-cuts or that they will not accept a proposal of pay-cuts?
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18-06-2013, 12:20 PM | #20 | |||
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Say's there will be no pay cuts, does not say that Holden didn't ask...... ;-)
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18-06-2013, 01:36 PM | #22 | ||
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Very true unfortuneatly. I wish the unions could help the workers understand this. What's better? Some people lose their jobs? Or everyone keeps their jobs, but earns a bit less and the Company keeps going?
This happened to my company recently.
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18-06-2013, 01:25 PM | #23 | ||
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18-06-2013, 01:36 PM | #24 | ||
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Down Days? Decrease in Production rates? They only need to make 100 cruzes a day to meet current sales, which leaves 240 commodore derivatives a day from a daily production of 340. That approx. 4800 commodores / Utes / Caprices in a 20 day work month.
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18-06-2013, 01:40 PM | #25 | ||
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Hang on a minute didn't the AMWU state that the new EBA that was negotiated with Holden some 10 months ago was unprecedented in the industry and now they have to take a pay cut ???
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18-06-2013, 02:19 PM | #26 | ||
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Thats a pretty big paycut!
Ultimately the demise of the AU auto industry was caused by the GFC. the US and Euro economies have tanked. Ours remained resilient due to China and our dollar remained high. Our wages are just too high compared to europe and the US... |
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18-06-2013, 02:22 PM | #27 | ||
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not a bad summary, I would tend to agree.
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18-06-2013, 02:39 PM | #28 | ||
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Who's next Toy Otter ?
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18-06-2013, 02:49 PM | #29 | ||
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Has announcement been made yet?
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18-06-2013, 02:51 PM | #30 | ||
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