This is total BS

[4vxc]

I saw an add on TV last night for this phone app
http://www.epa.nsw.gov.au/pollution/reporttoepa.htm

I can imagine all the would be cops getting in on this one.
Or maybe reporting someone who you have a issue with?
I can just imagine my neighbor reporting my 351 every time I take it out
Their details don't get passed on to who they report either.

[SensationFG8]

Interesting, I wonder what proof is required for the littering...

[Morexbs]

Originally Posted by 4vxc

I saw an add on TV last night for this phone app
http://www.epa.nsw.gov.au/pollution/reporttoepa.htm

I can imagine all the would be cops getting in on this one.
Or maybe reporting someone who you have a issue with?
Their details don't get passed on to who they report either.

If it's anything like Victoria,the person doing the dobbing would have to agree to appear in court as a witness if the infringement gets disputed.That bit usually weeds out those who just want to make trouble for someone.

[qdda5]

I'm all for it. Nothing annoys me more than disgusting pigs throwing there garbage out of cars. If your car shouldnt be on the road coz it hasnt been maintained properly get it off the road and fix it. Nice exhaust notes are fine with me but for those people that do cheap and nasty mods they should come off the road. They don't realise how crap they sound anyway.Doing them a favour to save them the embarrassment.
More than happy to download and use that app.

[4vxc]

Originally Posted by qdda5

I'm all for it. Nothing annoys me more than disgusting pigs throwing there garbage out of cars. If your car shouldnt be on the road coz it hasnt been maintained properly get it off the road and fix it. Nice exhaust notes are fine with me but for those people that do cheap and nasty mods they should come off the road. They don't realise how crap they sound anyway.Doing them a favour to save them the embarrassment.
More than happy to download and use that app.

bloody hell, I'd be embarrassed to admit it if I used such a pathetic app.
You might say you like a nice exhaust note but that's what will be reported by these app users.
I hope your Turbo is all stock so you do don't get reported yourself.

[qdda5]

[QUOTE=4vxc;5382610]bloody hell, I'd be embarrassed to admit it if I used such a pathetic app.
You might say you like a nice exhaust note but that's what will be reported by these app users.
I hope your Turbo is all stock so you do don't get reported yourself.[/QUOTE

Not embarrassed at all. Id recommend to anyone. The only people that are raising concerns are the idiots that do the wrong thing. If you dont throw crap from your car, dont drive an unroadworthy car and dont have a car that sounds like a piece of crap then you have nothing to worry about.
My question to you is ' Which category do fall into'??

[Trump]

Originally Posted by qdda5

Not embarrassed at all. Id recommend to anyone. The only people that are raising concerns are the idiots that do the wrong thing. If you dont throw crap from your car, dont drive an unroadworthy car and dont have a car that sounds like a piece of crap then you have nothing to worry about.
My question to you is ' Which category do fall into'??

The app and the behaviour govco is encouraging is the wrong thing. We (well those of us older than an XE Falcon) were brought up to not be dibby dobbers. And for good reason, dobbers had the snot beaten out of them because they couldn't mind their own business.

[cs123]

Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

The app and the behaviour govco is encouraging is the wrong thing. We (well those of us older than an XE Falcon) were brought up to not be dibby dobbers. And for good reason, dobbers had the snot beaten out of them because they couldn't mind their own business.

Mike Brady had the right approach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ_eP6p3tPs

[irish2]

[QUOTE=qdda5;5382638]

Originally Posted by 4vxc

bloody hell, I'd be embarrassed to admit it if I used such a pathetic app.
You might say you like a nice exhaust note but that's what will be reported by these app users.
I hope your Turbo is all stock so you do don't get reported yourself.[/QUOTE

Not embarrassed at all. Id recommend to anyone. The only people that are raising concerns are the idiots that do the wrong thing. If you dont throw crap from your car, dont drive an unroadworthy car and dont have a car that sounds like a piece of crap then you have nothing to worry about.
My question to you is ' Which category do fall into'??

You do know that with the decreased legal noise limit, that a completely stock Phase 3 would be done for excessive noise. Some people dislike any car louder than a stock Corolla, and will do anything to have them removed from the roads.

[qdda5]

Originally Posted by 4vxc

bloody hell, I'd be embarrassed to admit it if I used such a pathetic app.
You might say you like a nice exhaust note but that's what will be reported by these app users.
I hope your Turbo is all stock so you do don't get reported yourself.

Nah. Had to get rid of it. Kids kept throwing **** out the window, was blowing too much smoke and the holes i put in the exhaust made it too loud. Thought someone might dob me in. Lololol

[Olbucko]

Only allow the App to only be used by authorised and qualified people, not Joe public. Most people would not have a clue what was legal or not.

A while ago a friend received a penalty notice from the EPA for throwing a cigarette butt out his van window, only problem is that he does not smoke, some do-gooder got it wrong and caused him a lot of aggravation.

[Adamz Ghia]

I use the EPA app quite often, cigarette buts being thrown out of cars drives me nuts. Don't get the logic, it's not yuck to smoke in your car but keeping your litter in your car is...?

[cheap]

All this does is outsource the EPA responsibilities to the self serving, do-gooder, revenge seeking morons. Imagine the poor motorist living next door to a bunch of bicycle ridding vegan freaks, you'd be targeted as soon as you approached your car.

[jpblue1000]

Originally Posted by cheap

All this does is outsource the EPA responsibilities to the self serving, do-gooder, revenge seeking morons. Imagine the poor motorist living next door to a bunch of bicycle ridding vegan freaks, you'd be targeted as soon as you approached your car.

And us doo gooder bicycle riding vegan freaks are winning...soon you wont know your 1950's antiquated assbackwards self absorbed anti community minded Australia!
welcome to the new world order old man.
Why do you continually inflict hate and insult upon some of us here?

JP

[cheap]

Originally Posted by jpblue1000

And us doo gooder bicycle riding vegan freaks are winning...soon you wont know your 1950's antiquated assbackwards self absorbed anti community minded Australia!
welcome to the new world order old man.
Why do you continually inflict hate and insult upon some of us here?

JP

You're free to do whatever you like, if peddling a bicycle eating tofu whilst stalking people with an EPA app turns you on, go for it!

[superyob]

Originally Posted by jpblue1000

And us doo gooder bicycle riding vegan freaks are winning...soon you wont know your 1950's antiquated assbackwards self absorbed anti community minded Australia!
welcome to the new world order old man.
Why do you continually inflict hate and insult upon some of us here?

JP

Wasn't that the totalitarianism of the 30s? (Sorry, off topic)

[Full Noise]

Originally Posted by Olbucko

Only allow the App to only be used by authorised and qualified people, not Joe public. Most people would not have a clue what was legal or not.

A while ago a friend received a penalty notice from the EPA for throwing a cigarette butt out his van window, only problem is that he does not smoke, some do-gooder got it wrong and caused him a lot of aggravation.

I had some "goody two shoe would be if they could be copper" pull a similar stunt on me in 2003. Except they didn’t ring the EPA, they rang my boss to try and get me sacked.

I was driving a B double petrol tanker on the Calder freeway near Sunbury one night and the car in front threw a cigarette butt out of his window. He was probably about three hundred metres in front of me and I saw a few sparks as it hit the road.

Cigarette butts out of windows really p1ss me off but it was the middle of winter and the likelihood of it starting a fire was very remote, however, these things stay lit for quiet a while and as I drove over it, sparks flew out from underneath the tanker. Mister goody two shoes in the car behind me leaves his high beam on as he overtakes me going up Gap Hill.

I didn’t think much of it other than he was a “merchant banker” and continued on with my night.

Two days later, I had a please explain from my boss. This clown had contacted BP who in turn contacted my boss (we were contractors for them) and BP wanted blood. Someone was going down and they were going to make sure it happened. There was only one small technicality. Not only do I not smoke, I’ve never smoked, not once ever.

Things got a little bit nasty between all of us as I was prepared to undergo a blood test to prove that there was no nicotine in my system. After a heated discussion between a few managers, nothing more happened over it.

I don’t have a problem with people who have a genuine concern, if he rang the cops or EPA, it would have been fine but he didn’t. This scumbag just tried to get me sacked and it didn’t work.

[cs123]

The Dobber App.

I wonder how many of the Saints that would use this app would also use it while driving. or distract themselves taking down the details while driving. I hope the app has a GPS feature which automatically issues a fine to the app owner if they use it while moving.

God I wish people were less interested in what others are doing and worry about themselves.

[Adamz Ghia]

Originally Posted by cs123

The Dobber App.

I wonder how many of the Saints that would use this app would also use it while driving. or distract themselves taking down the details while driving. I hope the app has a GPS feature which automatically issues a fine to the app owner if they use it while moving.

God I wish people were less interested in what others are doing and worry about themselves.

That applies for everything...? So if I catch someone keying your car I keep going on my merry way...? And I do worry about myself. I'd like to be able to drive down a country road not filled with crap some scumbag has decided isn't good enought to have in their car but is good enough to wreck our country side with. I'd also not like to be caught in a bush fire caused by idiots who are not only intent on slowly killing themselves but also others if they're caught in said fire.

Fair enought if someone is using the app when driving and they're caught then book them. But labelling it as a dobber app is really childish for want of a better word.

[cs123]

Originally Posted by Adamz Ghia

That applies for everything...? So if I catch someone keying your car I keep going on my merry way...? And I do worry about myself. I'd like to be able to drive down a country road not filled with crap some scumbag has decided isn't good enought to have in their car but is good enough to wreck our country side with. I'd also not like to be caught in a bush fire caused by idiots who are not only intent on slowly killing themselves but also others if they're caught in said fire.

Fair enought if someone is using the app when driving and they're caught then book them. But labelling it as a dobber app is really childish for want of a better word.

really.... well where I draw the line is when there is a material impact on a person or their property. If I see a person damaging something I'll step in. If I see a person in danger I'll step in.

I could be Deputy Do-Right and download the council by-laws walk up and down my street and report all my neighbours who in some way infringe on the by-laws. I could decide to ring the cops and complain about my neighbours having a loud party at 11pm. I could so all sorts of trivial crap that fits into your world view and sit an home like with a big smile on my face.

That car you've reported for a smoky exhaust might be a single mother struggling to get by and now you've taken her car off the road.

You could probably report 1/2 of the people on this forum as most of us have some sort of mod to our cars that would see them fail a EPA test

Or you could be less obsessed with others and leave them be.

[jpblue1000]

Originally Posted by cs123

really.... well where I draw the line is when there is a material impact on a person or their property.

and that's the crux of the debate...material effect.
You may not consider air pollution to be effecting you, others would strongly disagree.
You may not consider littering to be an issue, but others like me do. I am fed up with others disregarding my street, my neighborhood and my city by blatantly dropping litter, throwing cigarett butts out the car window or onto my verandah, litter, rubbish and pollution cause disease, respiratory issues even cancers that all have a material effect on me and my family, my community and fellow citizen.
So why cant we demand a clean environment, that inappropriate noise, smell or sightly pollution be banished from our lives.
And as these Apps and rules and regulations exist is proof that society is beginning to agree with me...finally.

JP

[cs123]

Originally Posted by jpblue1000

and that's the crux of the debate...material effect.
You may not consider air pollution to be effecting you, others would strongly disagree.
You may not consider littering to be an issue, but others like me do. I am fed up with others disregarding my street, my neighborhood and my city by blatantly dropping litter, throwing cigarett butts out the car window or onto my verandah, litter, rubbish and pollution cause disease, respiratory issues even cancers that all have a material effect on me and my family, my community and fellow citizen.
So why cant we demand a clean environment, that inappropriate noise, smell or sightly pollution be banished from our lives.
And as these Apps and rules and regulations exist is proof that society is beginning to agree with me...finally.

JP

Sorry, I see by that Prius in your avatar that you're right into driving low pollution vehicles.

go have fun. Dob away

[cheap]

Originally Posted by jpblue1000

and that's the crux of the debate...material effect.
You may not consider air pollution to be effecting you, others would strongly disagree.
You may not consider littering to be an issue, but others like me do. I am fed up with others disregarding my street, my neighborhood and my city by blatantly dropping litter, throwing cigarett butts out the car window or onto my verandah, litter, rubbish and pollution cause disease, respiratory issues even cancers that all have a material effect on me and my family, my community and fellow citizen.
So why cant we demand a clean environment, that inappropriate noise, smell or sightly pollution be banished from our lives.
And as these Apps and rules and regulations exist is proof that society is beginning to agree with me...finally.

JP

Suggest you move to another planet!

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by cs123

You could probably report 1/2 of the people on this forum as most of us have some sort of mod to our cars that would see them fail a EPA test

If any of my cars got an EPA sticker, I would just hand the keys over and its their problem from now on, its easier that way

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by cs123

The Dobber App.

I wonder how many of the Saints that would use this app would also use it while driving. or distract themselves taking down the details while driving. I hope the app has a GPS feature which automatically issues a fine to the app owner if they use it while moving.

God I wish people were less interested in what others are doing and worry about themselves.

Exactly....the police allready watch, and have the power to fine people for littering and or having loud exhausts and so on. The law has better things to do then weed thru all these garbage apps....

[aussiblue]

They have had this system (I see they now have a mobile app too) in WA for many years ( I think 20 yrs plus) http://www.kabc.wa.gov.au/report-littering but the take up has been low. I think most people however annoyed by littering, see it as un-Australian to dob in people for minor offences like dead cigarette butts.

I know they do get reports on major dumping of a load of rubbish in parks, lakes, rivers and bushland etc, live butts that cause roadside grass fires etc and sometimes from annoyed motorist like me about people putting flyers under their windscreen wipers (and damaging them) as it distributing material like this is an offence under the Litter Act in WA .

At one time there was also a system where any WA State public servant could get a book of tickets that they could issue to pedestrian litterers; again the take up I think was virtually zero (I don't think we [retired public servant here] fancied confronting litterers and risking being punched out). In WA at least the KAB is essentially a one man office so there is a not a lot they can do without volunteers making reports.

[supershifty]

Would be a good app for any McDonalds or Hungry Jack's car park - they're disgusting for what people litter there.

Lazy ******, too tired to walk to the bins.

Cheers!

[The Yeti]

As some one who is exactly 1 X Quarter ponder meal away from the nearest maccers drive through I think its fantastic

next time that fat bald dick head in his FG with Jax quickfit wheels, tosses his maccers crap out the window on my nature strip (most afternoons) I'll get his rego and wack it in to the app

[supershifty]

Originally Posted by The Yeti

As some one who is exactly 1 X Quarter ponder meal away from the nearest maccers drive through I think its fantastic

next time that fat bald dick head in his FG with Jax quickfit wheels, tosses his maccers crap out the window on my nature strip (most afternoons) I'll get his rego and wack it in to the app

You're totally right Michael.

When I rode motorcycles I had a bloke flick a cigarette butt out of his window that landed in my right eye - I pulled up besides him at the next set of lights and gave him a thorough ******* baking.

It bloody hurt and could have caused an accident as I was temporally blinded.

Cheers!

[The Yeti]

Originally Posted by supershifty

You're totally right Michael.

When I rode motorcycles I had a bloke flick a cigarette butt out of his window that landed in my right eye - I pulled up besides him at the next set of lights and gave him a thorough ******* baking.

It bloody hurt and could have caused an accident as I was temporally blinded.

Cheers!

It would have been good if you could have tossed the cigarette butt back through his window,

wrapped in a brick