Jim Mock Jailed?!!

[fordboy1981]

Does anyone know if this is the same Jim Mock of Jim Mock Motorsport?!

https://www.sunraysiadaily.com.au/po...against-girl-7

[marty351]

Originally Posted by fordboy1981

Does anyone know if this is the same Jim Mock of Jim Mock Motorsport?!

https://www.sunraysiadaily.com.au/po...against-girl-7

Computer says yes.

[Franco Cozzo]

Wow there you go - he was the guru of E series performance stuff during the 00s.

What an absolute scumbag.

[XR Martin]

Got a set of his extractors on my ED.

[HIPO]

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[Franco Cozzo]

Makes you wonder if he had a history of this stuff and this is just the first time he got convicted for it.

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Makes you wonder if he had a history of this stuff and this is just the first time he got convicted for it.

I would think That's a Given, Franco...

[ozpacman]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Makes you wonder if he had a history of this stuff and this is just the first time he got convicted for it.

I doubt it would have been his first rodeo unfortunately.

During my working career I spent a few years investigating these sorts of offences. It never ceased to amaze me how these characters sought to justify their behaviour. The hard core ones honestly don't believe they're doing anything wrong.

It's an interesting field to work in, but one that has a definite 'use by' date.

[UTXR8]

same one...lost his ford dealership in mildura for dodgy dealings....selling new ford vehicle via ford credit to indigenous people without the means for repayment...allegedly....once the first or second monthly repayment was made, the remainder was guaranteed by one of our government, state orfederal, im not sure....a mate of mine was one of his top salesman, back then...allegedly...

[prktkljokr]

F!@#en rock spiders.
Another one I hope does not see the light of day again

[aussiblue]

https://www.afr.com/politics/ford-cr...19980406-k8281

Yes per https://www.afr.com/politics/ford-cr...19980406-k8281

Ford Credit car loans under ACCC scrutiny
Ian Rogers
Apr 6, 1998 – 10.00am

More than 80 car loans provided by Ford Credit Australia to customers of a Mildura Ford dealer are being investigated by the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission and Victoria's Department of Fair Trading after allegations were raised by the

Consumer Credit Legal Centre.

Examination of the loans, made between May 1996 and late 1997, will represent the first significant investigation into a credit financier's lending practices under the uniform consumer credit code, which came into force in November 1996.

The loans at the centre of the investigation were made through the Ford dealership in Mildura, run by Mr Jim Mock, and were all to Aboriginal men and women from the towns of Mildura, Robinvale, Broken Hill and Wilcannia.

The Melbourne-based Consumer Credit Legal Service referred the 86 contracts, with a combined value of about $1.2 million and which affect about 160 people, to the State's Department of Fair Trading.

The principal shareholder and head of Jim Mock Ford in Mildura, Mr Jim Mock, told The Australian Financial Review that his dealership held an "open door" policy with Ford Credit during the time most of the loans were made.

Mr Mock said Ford Credit "suggested we take on some higher-risk business to mix with our existing business, which would give Ford Credit more sales and would give the dealership more sales and would be better for everybody."

He said the open door policy was wound back in 1997.

Managing director of Ford Credit, Mr Geoff Green, said he did not know what was meant by an open door policy: "That's not the way that we do business. Every application is assessed and we have a credit scoring process.

"In terms of misrepresentation, yeah, there has been."

Mr Green said he did not believe any of the contracts were void.

"Though the misrepresentation occurred, the customer signed these misrepresentations," he said.

The controversy coincides with the demise of the dealership.

Ford Credit appointed Mr Andrew Home, of Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu in Melbourne, as receiver and manager of Jim Mock Pty Ltd in February this year. Mr Home did not return calls.

Mr Green said he did not want to answer questions on the receivership.

Mr Mock said Ford Credit told him this was a "technical receivership" and was instigated by the financier after legal action was launched by the CCLC.

He said his dealership was making "good profits" and at the most recent quarter had made "129 per cent of our forward objectives".

The most recent accounts show this company made a net profit in 1995 of $69,000 on equity of $67,000.

Speaking of Ford Credit's loan assessment practices during this time, Mr Mock said: "I don't think they were responsible when they assessed them and I don't think there was ever any intention to be responsible."

Mr Russell Mitchell, a solicitor with the CCLC, said Ford Credit did not check any of the details on loan applications and simply approved the loans.

He said that the dealer allegedly targeted elders in the Aboriginal community and allegedly told them that Jim Mock Ford could put them into a car.

The customers were sold used Fords said by Mr Mitchell to have been of "varying ages and conditions".

Mr Mitchell said the dealer would "jack up" the price of the cars by between $3,000 and $5,000.

Mr Mock said $5,000 was normal retail mark-up on the wholesale price of a car.

Many of the borrowers are or were employed under the Community Development Employment Program, a scheme which pays an income equivalent to unemployment benefit.

Most of the contracts were written under Victoria's old Credit Act. The uniform credit code, which applies across all States, came into force in November 1996.

Mr Mock said that of the 86 loan contracts "there is only 17 that they've ever had any problem with. The others are being paid for in a normal manner.

"It's been reported to me that there has been some repossessions and some slow payments. But it is only in 17. The balance they've had no problems with."

The uniform consumer credit code requires lenders to establish that borrowers understand loan contracts before they enter into them and that they have the capacity to pay. Failure to make these checks, or to provide documents to borrowers required by the code, can render a contract void.

Mr Mock said details provided in loan applications to Ford Credit were "as accurate as Ford Credit required. We worked for Ford Credit. We worked for them as an agent . . . we cannot possibly work independently. That is what has been put up. It can't be done".

Asked if information provided on applications for finance was false, Mr Mock said: "No. I don't believe it was false. We have to rely on information that was given to us by the customer.

[aussiblue]

He also has a facebook account https://www.facebook.com/jwmock000 I have reported him to facebook per https://www.facebook.com/help/210081...lpref=uf_share but from experience I know they usually need a few reports before they act and close the offender's account so it may be helpful if a few more also report him. I doubt they will allow him to use facebook in prison, but you can never be completely certain.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by aussiblue

He also has a facebook account https://www.facebook.com/jwmock000 I have reported him to facebook per https://www.facebook.com/help/210081...lpref=uf_share but from experience I know they usually need a few reports before they act and close the offender's account so it may be helpful if a few more also report him. I doubt they will allow him to use facebook in prison, but you can never be completely certain.

He kinda looks like Jeffrey Epstein, if they don't share looks they share another 'hobby' anyway

[marty351]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

He kinda looks like Jeffrey Epstein, if they don't share looks they share another 'hobby' anyway

Anthony Bourdain too.

[Charliewool]

The timeline of the Ford Credit debacle in Mildura also coincides with the downturn, and ultimate demise of the JMM performance business in Tottenham… At the time, I know there was a massive falling out between him and his sons.. All makes sense now

[TICKFORD220]

Hope they get to him in jail......

[fordomatic]

Originally Posted by TICKFORD220

Hope they get to him in jail......

Sadly they get special protection in jail and put them all together.

Hope he rots, rockspiders are the worst of the worst of humanity

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

The timeline of the Ford Credit debacle in Mildura also coincides with the downturn, and ultimate demise of the JMM performance business in Tottenham… At the time, I know there was a massive falling out between him and his sons.. All makes sense now

You reckon they knew what the old man was doing behind closed doors? Or was it related to his dodgy finance dealings?

[.:4:.]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

You reckon they knew what the old man was doing behind closed doors? Or was it related to his dodgy finance dealings?

There is no reason to do inappropriate things to children. Simple as that.
Any parent will look at this kind of thing a lot harsher then a person without a kid (kids) of their own. Not saying people without kids dont look at this stuff harshly, but there is something extremely wrong with someone who preys on children sexually. Or even preys on children at all.
Parental instinct is to keep your kid(s) away from harm.
I give absolutely zero ****s wheather that bloke could tune an e seiries falcon. What he did was plain and simple wrong.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by .:4:.

There is no reason to do inappropriate things to children. Simple as that.
Any parent will look at this kind of thing a lot harsher then a person without a kid (kids) of their own. Not saying people without kids dont look at this stuff harshly, but there is something extremely wrong with someone who preys on children sexually. Or even preys on children at all.
Parental instinct is to keep your kid(s) away from harm.
I give absolutely zero ****s wheather that bloke could tune an e seiries falcon. What he did was plain and simple wrong.

No one here is saying let alone implied what he did isn't wrong, I have zero idea where you got that from

You can't 'fix' them either, regardless how much psychological work you put them through, its one of those jobs.

You can take comfort in that at his age being given a 10 year sentence its likely a 'life sentence', you're on borrowed time as a male over 80 years old, and thats assuming you've actually looked after yourself properly, the last decade of his life aren't going to be 'comfortable' years.

He's going to be isolated away from the regular people there for his own protection, in amongst a bunch of freaks.

I reckon he has prior runs on the board we don't know about, this is just the one he got caught for.

Originally Posted by TrVrPhiLpsiNdstrys

He would wanna hope and prey Chris never comes face to face with him, i had very little respect for mock before, i have minus 1000000+ now

Please shut this thread down before i get banned, i cannot believe i have had telephone conversations with this thing !

Those of you who actually had dealings with the guy, what was he like - did he give off creep vibes?

[smoo]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

You can't 'fix' them either

Yes you can, google Richard Huckle. Although the fix for him was too short and too kind.

Child sex abuse victims John Bunting and Robert Wagner were on the right track, before they started getting greedy and knocking off innocent centre link beneficiaries for their money.
If they had of continued down the path of hunting pedos they'd have a type of reputation similar to Ned Kelly.
I think there were a bunch of reddit pedofags who took exception to them knocking off their own kind. Defending that aids ridden creep Barry Lane etc.

[arm79]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Those of you who actually had dealings with the guy, what was he like - did he give off creep vibes?

I gave him money a number of times while he had his shop in Altona North.

Always felt he was a condescending, sleezy, slimy businessman. Wouldn't say creep, but something definitely unlikeable. I was also well aware of what happened at his Mildura dealership back then too, which probably set the tone.

Brendan was hot and cold to me. An interesting helpful bloke one day and underhanded and weird the next.

[Bossxr8]

Sounds like he has been a dodgy guy for a long time. Never knew he used to run/own a dealership.

I cannot say what i want to about this filthy scum so i will shut my keyboard down.............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................. now !

He would wanna hope and prey Chris never comes face to face with him, i had very little respect for mock before, i have minus 1000000+ now

Please shut this thread down before i get banned, i cannot believe i have had telephone conversations with this thing !

[HIPO]

Yep this sort of thing is far more prevalent than most realize..... i put in a fair bit of time into exposing these scum using Facebook.... enjoy using that platform against itself too!

[Charliewool]

Got along fine with Brendan… Smart cookie too, with E series Falcons, some here would remember his turbo E series from AFF Heathcote drags?
His old man, as mentioned was a slimy bastard and what I’d call a “typical used car salesman”… Continually on stop-credit and owing us money, only coughing up when he wanted more machining work done.. Rinse & repeat until we finally severed all ties.. which also was around the same time the shutters went up in their Tottenham factory.
Still to this day owes us money.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

Got along fine with Brendan… Smart cookie too, with E series Falcons, some here would remember his turbo E series from AFF Heathcote drags?
His old man, as mentioned was a slimy bastard and what I’d call a “typical used car salesman”… Continually on stop-credit and owing us money, only coughing up when he wanted more machining work done.. Rinse & repeat until we finally severed all ties.. which also was around the same time the shutters went up in their Tottenham factory.
Still to this day owes us money.

Send him registered mail to his prison cell with an invoice inside, just so you can keep the stamped reciept with the prison's signature on it and his name

Imagine being in prison, you get some mail and it's just an invoice on money you owe for years because you're a scumbag.

I've still got one of those as a trophy from a customer who owed me money years ago who paid up.

[arm79]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

Got along fine with Brendan… Smart cookie too, with E series Falcons, some here would remember his turbo E series from AFF Heathcote drags?

Brendan was fine in person, but I found out he liked to bad mouth people and stir up **** behind their backs.

Working in Lavo North I'd often run over there to buy things for friends and people who wanted to use my garage. I was pretty close and it was easy after all. He was happy to take my money. One time he spent maybe an hour showing me this new tuning software for e-series, I think it might have been the origins of the J3 chip maybe. Did this a few times when I visited.

But when people went back to him after work had been done in my garage he would tell them I was a lying **** and all sorts of crap that I never bough things from him and I probably bought stuff second hand or not even JMM stuff at all and pocketed the money.

I bought a Dev 5 cam from Jim for my EL Ghia. He didn't give me a receipt, just a copy of the EFTPOS slp and wrote "Dev 5 cam" on the back. It came with specific instructions about what springs to use, how to install them, what timing gear and how to time it. I followed it to the letter.

When I sold it eventually years later something happened and the new owner took it back to them at their new shop at Tottenham. Same ****. "He never bought that cam from us, hes lying, thats not the right springs, he never got the right springs from us, he's ****ed up the install and left you holding the bag".

The only accurate thing was I didn't buy the springs from him, I got them from a mate at Bursons who got me good prices. They wanted too much.

Because I was a hoarder I still had the box the new springs came in, with the old OEM Tickford springs still inside and the instructions and parts list. The card receipt was filed with the card statement in the good ol' expandable folder. Gave them to the new owner and said "go forth and **** yourself and Brendan". Didn't hear anything back.

I don't know if it was because I wasn't a JMM devotee, didn't worship their feet and wasn't throwing money at them, but it was weird. His backstabbing bull**** cost me lots of time and aggravation with friends. Heard he did the same to others too...

I figured one of them would go for jail for something at some time. But didn't think it would be that.

[Charliewool]

Last time I went “debt collecting” This is what the place looked like.. Shuttered up



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