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Old 14-01-2024, 12:06 PM   #1
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Hi All

I have a start up enterprise in Sydney designing and manufacturing components for classic falcons amongst other things

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billet bonnet caps for xy falcon gt's
billet brake master cylinder caps
billet strut tower caps for xr-xe falcons

I also specialise in one off solutions/designs out of the norm

Pm me for any questions

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Old 14-01-2024, 06:31 PM   #2
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Why doesnt anyone tackle the hard stuff? The stuff people woud pay big money for...
Like a clevo 2 piece rear main seal that doesnt leak.
Or a 1 piece rubber sump gasket for a clevo.
Or an xc gs grille.
Or 302w 5.0 heater pipes.
Maybe, somehow, an offset starter motor on fords that gets it away from header heat.
There's so many more.
Good luck but i reckon ive seen that blingey stuff around.
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Why doesnt anyone tackle the hard stuff? The stuff people woud pay big money for...
Like a clevo 2 piece rear main seal that doesnt leak.
Or a 1 piece rubber sump gasket for a clevo.
Or an xc gs grille.
Or 302w 5.0 heater pipes.
Maybe, somehow, an offset starter motor on fords that gets it away from header heat.
There's so many more.
Good luck but i reckon ive seen that blingey stuff around.
Because tooling costs and minimum order quantities - you'd need to buy more of each of those items then there are Cleveland engines in Falcons, means your unit sell cost would be sky high to cover the costs and make a bit of money on top
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Thank you for your comments… I have posted items for sale that may appeal to more people than you… I would be more than happy to look at your wish list of items that you would rather see…..but when I give you a price to manufacture 1 of those items-and you complain to anyone who will listen about how unrealistic the price is because I couldn’t see any sort of volume in them- how does that work??? Unfortunately time is money- one off components aren’t made magically and why am I going to invest many hours into something that will not make a profit for someone who doesn’t understand that custom components don’t magically get made…. I will make anything- but people need to realise like any other trade service - hours worked = money
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Thank you for your comments… I have posted items for sale that may appeal to more people than you… I would be more than happy to look at your wish list of items that you would rather see…..but when I give you a price to manufacture 1 of those items-and you complain to anyone who will listen about how unrealistic the price is because I couldn’t see any sort of volume in them- how does that work??? Unfortunately time is money- one off components aren’t made magically and why am I going to invest many hours into something that will not make a profit for someone who doesn’t understand that custom components don’t magically get made…. I will make anything- but people need to realise like any other trade service - hours worked = money
Whoa. No need to get snakey there fella. Who are you again? Or did you just come here to promote your business?
I realise all that.
But youre selling a shiny cap for a master cylinder. Which god knows why its billet.
What else have you got? Should make some billet tyre valve caps. Or is the setup cost too high?
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Whoa. No need to get snakey there fella. Who are you again? Or did you just come here to promote your business?
I realise all that.
But youre selling a shiny cap for a master cylinder. Which god knows why its billet.
What else have you got? Should make some billet tyre valve caps. Or is the setup cost too high?
I’m not going to get into a **** slinging match…. I have been making custom components for custom cars for 25 years- from suspension to interior to engine bay… and all in between- I have not been into advertising on forums for this very reason… talk to me about what you are looking for and if I can help I will- I’ve owned modified cars myself and I specialise in a niche market where the masses can’t deliver- and have always been word of mouth for a reason- as I said the items I posted may appeal to more than one person. If you don’t agree or don’t like the products I offer- that’s fine…. That’s your opinion… if you do wish to find a solution that you can’t find elsewhere- let’s talk
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Because tooling costs and minimum order quantities - you'd need to buy more of each of those items then there are Cleveland engines in Falcons, means your unit sell cost would be sky high to cover the costs and make a bit of money on top
Kinda like the prices we continued to pay for perfornance parts during covid.
We still paid though.
People will pay well for good stuff, of which there is not much available.
Its amazing to me that this is someone's take on the 'missing piece' of the classic/resto market.
Clevos came in a lot more than just falcons. I think youd be surprised how many people still screw around with them, worldwide.
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Kinda like the prices we continued to pay for perfornance parts during covid.
We still paid though.
People will pay well for good stuff, of which there is not much available.
Its amazing to me that this is someone's take on the 'missing piece' of the classic/resto market.
Clevos came in a lot more than just falcons. I think youd be surprised how many people still screw around with them, worldwide.
Well, no when the tooling is something like $5000 USD, price per unit is $10 USD and the minimum order quantity is 1000x units, that's say $22,500 AUD to get the tooling made and the stock, then add shipping ex Taiwan/China. Its better if it comes from China because you're eligible for CHAFTA and the exemption on the import duties.

When you sell maybe 200 of them, because of not much demand for the product, so $22,500/200 - your cost ends up being $112.50 AUD/sump gasket on the ones you sell, excluding shipping costs (lets ignore) and you have 800x dead stock sump gaskets on the shelf you might move here and there.

Then we want to make money on the 200x sump gaskets at $112.50 to cover the cost of the 800x sitting on the shelf, so we mark it up by 50% - $168.75 AUD per rubber sump gasket.

Whats the cork sump gasket worth and would you pay $170 for a sump gasket on a Clevo?

OR do you spend $22,500 on something you know which will move?

Yeah there's Clevelands in other cars world-wide, but how do you market your new ubeaut rubber sump gasket to these customers, do we spend money on SEO campaigns?

I guess if you're happy for a slow burn, its a long payback period on your $22,500 up front spend if you price it per unit on the 1000 instead of the 200 you know you'll move.

I think the intention is he's gone for the billet stuff because he knows it moves and he's probably not spending 5 figures on stock and tooling costs like you would be if you're making gaskets and little bits and bobs like rear main seals and stuff.

Used to get the same thing all the time on throttle cables for T series AUs with the Wheezer,

Complain about $250 for me to make you 1x throttle cable, and I need to salvage the bracket near the throttle side of it.

Buy 30,000 of them and cover the $5000 USD tooling cost to make the bracket and I'll do em for $20 each.

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Well, no when the tooling is something like $5000 USD, price per unit is $10 USD and the minimum order quantity is 1000x units, that's say $22,500 AUD to get the tooling made and the stock, then add shipping ex Taiwan/China. Its better if it comes from China because you're eligible for CHAFTA and the exemption on the import duties.

When you sell maybe 200 of them, because of not much demand for the product, so $22,500/200 - your cost ends up being $112.50 AUD/sump gasket on the ones you sell, excluding shipping costs (lets ignore) and you have 800x dead stock sump gaskets on the shelf you might move here and there.

Then we want to make money on the 200x sump gaskets at $112.50 to cover the cost of the 800x sitting on the shelf, so we mark it up by 50% - $168.75 AUD per rubber sump gasket.



Whats the cork sump gasket worth and would you pay $170 for a sump gasket on a Clevo?

OR do you spend $22,500 on something you know which will move?

Yeah there's Clevelands in other cars world-wide, but how do you market your new ubeaut rubber sump gasket to these customers, do we spend money on SEO campaigns?

I guess if you're happy for a slow burn, its a long payback period on your $22,500 up front spend if you price it per unit on the 1000 instead of the 200 you know you'll move.

I think the intention is he's gone for the billet stuff because he knows it moves and he's probably not spending 5 figures on stock and tooling costs like you would be if you're making gaskets and little bits and bobs like rear main seals and stuff.

Used to get the same thing all the time on throttle cables for T series AUs with the Wheezer,

Complain about $250 for me to make you 1x throttle cable, and I need to salvage the bracket near the throttle side of it.

Buy 30,000 of them and cover the $5000 USD tooling cost to make the bracket and I'll do em for $20 each.
Thank you Franco

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Well, no when the tooling is something like $5000 USD, price per unit is $10 USD and the minimum order quantity is 1000x units, that's say $22,500 AUD to get the tooling made and the stock, then add shipping ex Taiwan/China. Its better if it comes from China because you're eligible for CHAFTA and the exemption on the import duties.

When you sell maybe 200 of them, because of not much demand for the product, so $22,500/200 - your cost ends up being $112.50 AUD/sump gasket on the ones you sell, excluding shipping costs (lets ignore) and you have 800x dead stock sump gaskets on the shelf you might move here and there.

Then we want to make money on the 200x sump gaskets at $112.50 to cover the cost of the 800x sitting on the shelf, so we mark it up by 50% - $168.75 AUD per rubber sump gasket.

Whats the cork sump gasket worth and would you pay $170 for a sump gasket on a Clevo?

OR do you spend $22,500 on something you know which will move?

Yeah there's Clevelands in other cars world-wide, but how do you market your new ubeaut rubber sump gasket to these customers, do we spend money on SEO campaigns?

I guess if you're happy for a slow burn, its a long payback period on your $22,500 up front spend if you price it per unit on the 1000 instead of the 200 you know you'll move.

I think the intention is he's gone for the billet stuff because he knows it moves and he's probably not spending 5 figures on stock and tooling costs like you would be if you're making gaskets and little bits and bobs like rear main seals and stuff.

Used to get the same thing all the time on throttle cables for T series AUs with the Wheezer,

Complain about $250 for me to make you 1x throttle cable, and I need to salvage the bracket near the throttle side of it.

Buy 30,000 of them and cover the $5000 USD tooling cost to make the bracket and I'll do em for $20 each.
Yeah,
We dabble in different areas, with different people.
Those prices are reasonable.
Have you built any 60s/70s/80s cars lately? Or ever? Do you own any?
I think youre missing my point.
But in short i couldnt care less, just, yeah, congrats on the pointless blingey crap, youre doing gods work here
You promote "custom" yet all you can do is use a cnc mill to cut out basic parts.
And when asked for anything its all too hard and expensive.
Good luck with your master cylinder covers, youll be the next Elon.
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Maybe, somehow, an offset starter motor on fords that gets it away from header heat.
There are suitable after-market heat shields available. e.g. https://www.streetmusclemag.com/news...tarter-shield/ and https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/39507382...Bk9SR-rDnvCgYw and https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/22548564...Bk9SR-rDnvCgYw and https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/36461161...Bk9SR_DDnvCgYw and https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/35514459...Bk9SR_DDnvCgYw and https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/20142663...Bk9SR4zEnvCgYw etc etc.
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Enough.

DK Customs, I really shouldn't allowing you to join this forum for the sole purpose of promoting your business. We have the sponsor area for that. We don't mind the odd mention if you are contributing positively in other ways but I am not seeing this at the moment.
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