New Motor Mag

ED Classic · 06-03-2006, 01:24 PM

Go the 6 Speed Auto Typhoon

A Ford/FPV Trifecta

06-03-2006, 02:58 PM

Any more details?

Buf-Phoon · 06-03-2006, 03:01 PM

Nothing like a teaser campaign

TheSneakiness · 06-03-2006, 03:03 PM

Uh... care to elaborate?

Cause that sentence makes absolutely no sense.

ED Classic · 06-03-2006, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AUII_SE_Ute

Uh... care to elaborate?

Cause that sentence makes absolutely no sense.

Why?

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ED Classic · 06-03-2006, 04:57 PM

2006 "Australian" PCOTY

Entrants...HSV GTO Coupe,HSV Clubsport DTS,Holden Commodore SS Manual,XR6 Turbo Auto,XR6 Turbo Manual,XR8 Auto,FPV GT Auto,FPV F6 Typhoon 6 Auto.

Winton Lap Times...,HSV Clubsport DTS 142.95,F6 Typhoon 144.60, XR6T Manual 144.95,Commode SS 145.80,XR6T Auto,145.90, GTO Coupe145.95,GT146.05, XR8 146.50.

Top Speed...F6 177.2 KMH, Clubsport DTS 174.1kmh, XR6T Auto 172.0 KMH, FPV GT 171.0kmh, XR6 T Manual 169.7 kmh, XR8 168.6 KMH, SS 167.1 KMH, GTO Coupe 166.3 KMH.

TOP 3 Winners of the contest, 1=F6 Typhoon, 2 XR6T Manual, 3 XR6T Auto

Deadman · 06-03-2006, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ED Classic

TOP 3 Winners of the contest, 1=F6 Typhoon, 2 XR6T Manual, 3 XR6T Auto

Correct decision to

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McobraR · 06-03-2006, 08:53 PM

An XR6T beating a GT in top speed and lap time..... whats ford gotta say about this?

M14A-Mclaren · 06-03-2006, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by McobraR

An XR6T beating a GT in top speed and lap time..... whats ford gotta say about this?

"Stoked! what the hell are FPV doing"

I doubt they can put that all down to having a heavy engine at the front. Thought I haven't read it and I'm sure they say something about it.

Redrum · 07-03-2006, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by McobraR

An XR6T beating a GT in top speed and lap time..... whats ford gotta say about this?

Buying a T was a wise decision, no need to lug around a boat anchor up front............can't wait to my next purchase a phoon. Ford has to do something with its V8 line up, reminds me of EF days when XR6 quicker than XR8.

290kw in XR8, supercharged V8 in GT..... imagine that an F8!!!

parawolf · 07-03-2006, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrum

290kw in XR8, supercharged V8 in GT..... imagine that an F8!!!

Yeah! add an extra 25kg high up (above the waist line) to the front of the car! More Power!

That just equals even more understeer on turn in with excessive throttle oversteer mid corner to exit - neither of which improve lap speed.

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What they need to do is get the 5.4L sitting lower (not likely) reduce front end mass (not likely) or improve front end grip to remove push, and improve turn in i'd like to see a stock GT with a set of R-Spec tyres do 5 flying laps vs with the SP9000's and contrast the corner speed, apex hits, corner exit speeds and overall time. See if improved grip makes a large difference. Then throw on a set of variable rate shockers as well for the front end.

ADSXR8 · 07-03-2006, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ED Classic

2006 "Australian" PCOTY

Entrants...HSV GTO Coupe,HSV Clubsport DTS,Holden Commodore SS Manual,XR6 Turbo Auto,XR6 Turbo Manual,XR8 Auto,FPV GT Auto,FPV F6 Typhoon 6 Auto.

Winton Lap Times...,HSV Clubsport DTS 142.95,F6 Typhoon 144.60, XR6T Manual 144.95,Commode SS 145.80,XR6T Auto,145.90, GTO Coupe145.95,GT146.05, XR8 146.50.

Top Speed...F6 177.2 KMH, Clubsport DTS 174.1kmh, XR6T Auto 172.0 KMH, FPV GT 171.0kmh, XR6 T Manual 169.7 kmh, XR8 168.6 KMH, SS 167.1 KMH, GTO Coupe 166.3 KMH.

TOP 3 Winners of the contest, 1=F6 Typhoon, 2 XR6T Manual, 3 XR6T Auto

Would you assume if a manual Typhoon was also entered it would have been ahead of the auto, like the XR6T................

HEMI POWER · 07-03-2006, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ADSGTP

Would you assume if a manual Typhoon was also entered it would have been ahead of the auto, like the XR6T................

I think it's sign of the times.Autos are getting that advanced that there will be no need to have a clutch.For the F6 to get those track times in an Auto is just amazing.

ADSXR8 · 07-03-2006, 01:39 PM

After reading this thread I have got myself very keen to purchase the Motor mag.

A couple things worth noting. I mentioned in another thread of my experiences driving the new BF's in Gt and F6 form, both auto.

Coming out of a Mk1 GT-P, the BF GT 6spd auto, apart from the rush in a much lower first gear, overall it feels like a geniune slug. And my BA 4spd auto was definitely quicker. I think the Euro 111 compliance has pegged it back a little.

The Typhoon was just a cannon and I am not suprised to see these results. Actually, I bought a BF Typhoon, I am completely stoked at these
results.

And somebody else mentioned the solid performance by the XR8. For a car that is nearly forgotten, its keeps punching out its opponent, the SS.

Well done Ford

HEMI POWER · 07-03-2006, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ADSGTP

After reading this thread I have got myself very keen to purchase the Motor mag.

A couple things worth noting. I mentioned in another thread of my experiences driving the new BF's in Gt and F6 form, both auto.

Coming out of a Mk1 GT-P, the BF GT 6spd auto, apart from the rush in a much lower first gear, overall it feels like a geniune slug. And my BA 4spd auto was definitely quicker. I think the Euro 111 compliance has pegged it back a little.

The Typhoon was just a cannon and I am not suprised to see these results. Actually, I bought a BF Typhoon, I am completely stoked at these
results.

And somebody else mentioned the solid performance by the XR8. For a car that is nearly forgotten, its keeps punching out its opponent, the SS.

Well done Ford

ADSGTP, you might have a good point on the Euro 3.Sounds all too familiar just like back in 74 when ADR 27 was introduced.

HEMI POWER · 07-03-2006, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ED Classic

2006 "Australian" PCOTY

Entrants...HSV GTO Coupe,HSV Clubsport DTS,Holden Commodore SS Manual,XR6 Turbo Auto,XR6 Turbo Manual,XR8 Auto,FPV GT Auto,FPV F6 Typhoon 6 Auto.

Winton Lap Times...,HSV Clubsport DTS 142.95,F6 Typhoon 144.60, XR6T Manual 144.95,Commode SS 145.80,XR6T Auto,145.90, GTO Coupe145.95,GT146.05, XR8 146.50.

Top Speed...F6 177.2 KMH, Clubsport DTS 174.1kmh, XR6T Auto 172.0 KMH, FPV GT 171.0kmh, XR6 T Manual 169.7 kmh, XR8 168.6 KMH, SS 167.1 KMH, GTO Coupe 166.3 KMH.

TOP 3 Winners of the contest, 1=F6 Typhoon, 2 XR6T Manual, 3 XR6T Auto

Great result for the Blue Oval,the F6 has again proved itself to be great value.The times on the GT are a little dissapointing but i believe the 290 can produce better figures than what was tested on the day.

FPV8U · 06-03-2006, 05:08 PM

The Phoon won PCOTY??? or are you saying of the Aussie cars the Phoon was 1st?

ED Classic · 06-03-2006, 05:53 PM

They called it Australian PCOTY. Unfortionatly I am still waiting for a Ford to win The PCOTY

M14A-Mclaren · 06-03-2006, 06:18 PM

I thought it was out March 10? I normally get mine 13th of the month here.

Grechie · 06-03-2006, 08:56 PM

go the phoon

FPV8U · 06-03-2006, 10:03 PM

Must have been an Off GT, no way a Stock XR6T would beat a Stock GT for Top speed, lap time i can understand with the XR6T coming with decent brakes now.

What did the GT come outright? in the last two it has come 2nd Both times!

outback_ute · 06-03-2006, 10:23 PM

Were the Typhoon & GT auto or manual? I'm not surprised to see the F6 come out on top though.

Steffo · 06-03-2006, 10:28 PM

The Typhoon was the fastest accelerating car there...

5.79sec 0-100km/h
13.96 @ 167km/h 1/4

The HSV Clubsport R8 DTS was second...

5.89sec 0-100km/h
14.08 @ 161.7km/h 1/4

The FPV GT was something like... dead last...

6.96sec 0-100km/h
14.95 @ 157.7km/h 1/4

Why is it trapping less then an XR6 Turbo by a few km/h, and well, that's some ИИИИ poor times.

F6 Typhoon is without doubt the absolute king.

DABOSS · 07-03-2006, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

The Typhoon was the fastest accelerating car there...

5.79sec 0-100km/h
13.96 @ 167km/h 1/4

The HSV Clubsport R8 DTS was second...

5.89sec 0-100km/h
14.08 @ 161.7km/h 1/4

The FPV GT was something like... dead last...

6.96sec 0-100km/h
14.95 @ 157.7km/h 1/4

Why is it trapping less then an XR6 Turbo by a few km/h, and well, that's some ИИИИ poor times.

F6 Typhoon is without doubt the absolute king.

Those times have got to be Bullshhiitt a stock GT 6.9 and 14.95 very hard to belive I think the driver should have the living sshhiitt kicked out of him ,,,, MORE THEN HAPPY TO DO IT.

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WASP · 06-03-2006, 10:49 PM

Great news for the Ford Turbo's but all the times appear slow, even the F6's (and especially the GT's). They must be doing them with a full tank or fuel and the Brady Bunch on board.

Scott · 06-03-2006, 10:49 PM

Unfortunately, the difference in throwing a GT into a hard braking turn & throwing an XR6T into the same is pretty massive. Even with the old brakes, the XR6T (XR6 too) was a much better handling package when you got cranky. There's probably half a dozen turns at Winton that the GT "push" would have struggled with & the straight is not overly long either. I'd have thought the XR's & Phoon would have carried a good deal more speed onto the straight to get that trap time. Pity they don't sound right ;)

WASP · 06-03-2006, 10:51 PM

Also noticed our 'old' BOSS 260 XR8 appears to hold it's own against the 'new 'SS 6 ltr. (top speed wise)

banarcus · 06-03-2006, 10:59 PM

Just another MOTOR mag ИИИИing contest. It will be different next issue.

gtfpv · 06-03-2006, 11:11 PM

dont know what to say gt's always seems to be last . i drove both gt and xr8 and xr6t and i thought the gt was the fastest going by seat of pants feel . but i keep reading xr8's are faster and xr6's even faster . i dont know . maybe it is just me .

McobraR · 06-03-2006, 11:15 PM

Just looked at Steffo's post on the times, but aren't those the same times that Motor got from the last Typhoon(auto)/Clubsport(manual) comparo?