Simmons return ! - Page 2

**Kingsley** · 08-01-2011, 05:11 PM

Those wheels look good.
Ratman, that is one very nice looking EL XR!!! Well done!!

nstg8a · 08-01-2011, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mulberry Laine

The ones in this thread arent simmons either they are a copy.

Stefan · 08-01-2011, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mulberry Laine

The ones in this thread arent simmons either they are a copy.

Good luck with your $1,099 "Simmons"

ratman · 09-01-2011, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mulberry Laine

The ones in this thread arent simmons either they are a copy.

Actually they are a licenced Simmons product - now under new ownership.
They carry the simmons face stamp to the rear and serial coding also, as someone has mentioned, construction has now changed - it would seem for the better, time will tell.
I've had a good look right over them and can honestly say they are impressive, I've had 7 sets of simmons on various cars over the years and these seem to be made just as well, finish is very tidy, they do seem lighter to pickup - maybe that was the weetbix I ate that day but I'll try to get some weights to compare to the originals. The only marked difference I could pick is the frog (scoop) to the back of each fork - possibly where some of the weight saving comes from. Its not huge and I wouldn't call them hollow but similar to a brick, they have been designed with this feature. The nuts to the inner dish did look a little cheap imo but u only see them when the wheels are off. Dishes were better than the originals. Text on the caps was micro-mm different - again thats just my opinion and to the average joe, u wouldn't pick it.

To try answer everyone's questions:

285s - yes, guards have 'massaged', do a search on yloooz and u will see more specs/pix on the car. This particular car started with FR18, then 19s and now the 20s. Many mag features over the years but none as it stands now.

the ebay rims mentioned are quite different, the closest style out there is an american rim that goes by the name of Kinesis.

There is another group in WA that are working on the older smaller styles - B45 / V5s, don't know much about them myself but I understand 16s will be the biggest they go.

ATM my understanding is the FRs will be done as 19s and 20s + 22s as that is the demand for them, 18s if they get enough interest. The ride difference from the 19s to the 20s is un-noticeable, we drove it back to back and couldn't pick the difference. I have the 19s on my EB XR8 and 17s on the EB GHIA and have to say the 19s are WAY more comfortable even if the car sits 2 inches lower. The good tyres and koni's over the pedders in the Ghia probably make the biggest difference.

They are still 3 piece so if they unfortunate happens, parts are interchangeable.

I haven't seen the colour charts yet, I'm assuming they will still be available in the standard range.

Prices aren't cheap, but Simmons never were. They are 'more affordable' than the so called originals but it comes down to the quality of tyre u fit, 19s - 20s with top rubber will see u in the $4-5k zone from what I have seen. Obviously supply and demand and the aussie $ will move things around a bit but they are not the entry level chromies u find on ebay etc.

Thanks Scotty, Canberra is good, hope u are keeping your feet dry up in Qld.

Hope that answers everyone's questions - and no, I'm not an agent

svo347 · 09-01-2011, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ratman

Actually they are a licenced Simmons product - now under new ownership.
They carry the simmons face stamp to the rear and serial coding also, as someone has mentioned, construction has now changed - it would seem for the better, time will tell.
I've had a good look right over them and can honestly say they are impressive, I've had 7 sets of simmons on various cars over the years and these seem to be made just as well, finish is very tidy, they do seem lighter to pickup - maybe that was the weetbix I ate that day but I'll try to get some weights to compare to the originals. The only marked difference I could pick is the frog (scoop) to the back of each fork - possibly where some of the weight saving comes from. Its not huge and I wouldn't call them hollow but similar to a brick, they have been designed with this feature. The nuts to the inner dish did look a little cheap imo but u only see them when the wheels are off. Dishes were better than the originals. Text on the caps was micro-mm different - again thats just my opinion and to the average joe, u wouldn't pick it.

To try answer everyone's questions:

285s - yes, guards have 'massaged', do a search on yloooz and u will see more specs/pix on the car. This particular car started with FR18, then 19s and now the 20s. Many mag features over the years but none as it stands now.

the ebay rims mentioned are quite different, the closest style out there is an american rim that goes by the name of Kinesis.

There is another group in WA that are working on the older smaller styles - B45 / V5s, don't know much about them myself but I understand 16s will be the biggest they go.

ATM my understanding is the FRs will be done as 19s and 20s + 22s as that is the demand for them, 18s if they get enough interest. The ride difference from the 19s to the 20s is un-noticeable, we drove it back to back and couldn't pick the difference. I have the 19s on my EB XR8 and 17s on the EB GHIA and have to say the 19s are WAY more comfortable even if the car sits 2 inches lower. The good tyres and koni's over the pedders in the Ghia probably make the biggest difference.

They are still 3 piece so if they unfortunate happens, parts are interchangeable.

I haven't seen the colour charts yet, I'm assuming they will still be available in the standard range.

Prices aren't cheap, but Simmons never were. They are 'more affordable' than the so called originals but it comes down to the quality of tyre u fit, 19s - 20s with top rubber will see u in the $4-5k zone from what I have seen. Obviously supply and demand and the aussie $ will move things around a bit but they are not the entry level chromies u find on ebay etc.

Thanks Scotty, Canberra is good, hope u are keeping your feet dry up in Qld.

Hope that answers everyone's questions - and no, I'm not an agent

Good onya mate. Cheers for the info n warm regards to the family.. Its been awhile

ZA-289 · 09-01-2011, 07:42 PM

That EL looks stupid. TOOOOO much rim.

What I always like about simmons was because they looked so nice you didnt need to have them in 22"

FR17s still look great in my opinion. (and will always be worth more than those stupid FR22's...) these new ones just make the old ones better if you ask me.

gcg2503 · 09-01-2011, 07:54 PM

Would love more details about the WA guys doing the V5 Simmons!

Nikked · 09-01-2011, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ZA-289

That EL looks stupid. TOOOOO much rim.

What I always like about simmons was because they looked so nice you didnt need to have them in 22"
.

They are only 20's...and you have 19' GTP copies....

I want some FR's! (Or 18'in Drifteks...)

WAR40T · 09-01-2011, 08:11 PM

I will be waiting to see the feedback on if they will stay round, once driven on the road for a few months before purchasing a new set of FR20s. Looks good tho. Valve stem looks to be in a better position too, than the FR19s.
thanks for the pics Ratman

ratman · 09-01-2011, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gcg2503

Would love more details about the WA guys doing the V5 Simmons!

Mate, I'll try dig up the info, from memory it was written up in the Perth st cars mag a while back, available thru Top 10 tyres perhaps???

The 1st set of 22s made are for a Ferrari so we'll see what they look like when done, personally FR22s on the SUV market have been too long coming, have Kahn 22S on my X5, would have considered the Simmons then if they were available.

ZA-289 · 10-01-2011, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

They are only 20's...and you have 19' GTP copies....

I want some FR's! (Or 18'in Drifteks...)

20's aren't too bad.... Thought they looked bigger, perhaps it looks weird coz its stupidly low.

ROLLI · 10-01-2011, 09:17 AM

TUFF! Wouldnt mind some for my car...

EF Hoon · 10-01-2011, 10:02 AM

is that JETXR?

ratman · 10-01-2011, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by EF Hoon

is that JETXR?

No, JETXR is now orange.

xrfalcon · 10-01-2011, 01:29 PM

The old rims on the EL are now on a TC Cortina.

mickyyyy · 10-01-2011, 03:26 PM

Ratman tell ur mate to sell it to me :-)

Nikked · 10-01-2011, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ZA-289

20's aren't too bad.... Thought they looked bigger, perhaps it looks weird coz its stupidly low.

They just look big cause its an E-series lol...

Its a shame about the tiny brakes but....

XYGTHO · 10-01-2011, 05:58 PM

Would also be interested in info on the smaller 15-16's. Also think 19's would look to big on my XY. 18's max but still big. Have 15" polished B45's to go on.

EBW-302 · 12-01-2011, 01:44 PM

If only they werent 3 times the value of my car, would love a set of charcoal FR19's

HULK EF · 13-01-2011, 09:32 AM

looking great... !!!

munkky · 13-01-2011, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ratman

No, JETXR is now orange.

jet xr is forsale on ebay

66 STANG · 10-02-2011, 11:50 PM

Thanks for the info on these awesome looking rims Ratman. Do you know the expected lead time and cost (rims only) for a set of these? I'm considering getting a set if I get a new GS Ute. It will need something to fill out those wide looking back quarters!!

Riksta · 11-02-2011, 12:23 AM

I would love a gold set around the 15-16" mark for the LTD. With whitewalls. Gold car + gold rims with the whitewall & black of the tyre between would look great.

tapeworm · 11-02-2011, 06:37 PM

FR's on E-Series, so much win.

WAR40T · 11-02-2011, 06:58 PM

i emailed Sam at tempe last week, FR19 are $1000 each with painted centre, $150 extra for polished. Production is expected to start soon for 20s-22s.

mickyyyy · 11-02-2011, 10:37 PM

Tapeworm

Is that ur XR?

nstg8a · 11-02-2011, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by WAR40T

i emailed Sam at tempe last week, FR19 are $1000 each with painted centre, $150 extra for polished. Production is expected to start soon for 20s-22s.

20s and 22s are already out...

starkersEB · 12-02-2011, 02:12 AM

Hey Ratman would you like my bank details? Its just that ive made a mess of my laptop after seeing those pics and id like you to replace it please!!!!!!! lol

tapeworm · 12-02-2011, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mickyyyy

Tapeworm

Is that ur XR?

just a pic I found, it's not mine.

charles_wif_xf · 12-02-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by WAR40T

i emailed Sam at tempe last week, FR19 are $1000 each with painted centre, $150 extra for polished. Production is expected to start soon for 20s-22s.

Ouch, considering I was quoted $790 per wheel for the FR19 before Tony shut up shop...