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09-02-2011, 01:20 PM | #61 | |||
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09-02-2011, 01:27 PM | #62 | |||
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But the standard output in the Land Rovers was 140kW/440Nm. The tuning potential is good though. http://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/...el-tuning.html Those guys offer 171kW/530Nm. So clearly there could be some scope for Ford to tickle it. However, aiming ofr sub 230g/km of CO2 will likely be the aim. With a really short and off boost diesel friendly 1st gear in the ZF, these things will move swiftly. Hope the sales are crackers! PS 230g/km of CO2 is 8.7L/100km of diesel.
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What gearbox did the rovers have with the 2.7?
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09-02-2011, 01:51 PM | #64 | ||
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With a bigger towing capacity this may become the default choice of people who tow. People have been having to buy clumsy off-roaders for far too long for big towing duties.
I think the TS will be very popular, I dont think Titianium has enough equipment to justify the Titanium name (and probably price) to be honest. Preffered they kept the it as Ghia and down the track bring in the Titianium to sit above the Ghia with sunroof, xenons, front parking sensors, keyless start, radar cruise...etc. Only complaint of what is a great looking car. An off-roady version would be good, nothing outrageous, just some chunkier tyres, downhill descent, plastic wheel arch flares and some bright colours - would popular with a lot of younger blokes, be a good little seller. likewise with an XR6 version. Currently at the moment TX, TS and Titanium all appeal to the same group, it would be good to broaden it a bit. |
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09-02-2011, 01:59 PM | #65 | |||
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I don't think there is any confusion over which gearbox Territory will be running standard. kaniSS - never has been. The market Ford were originally aiming for would have bought very few manuals, that they would have struggled to recoup the investment into the transmission. Chances are, it would have only been available on the TX anyway (as the TS was a last minute decision).
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09-02-2011, 02:09 PM | #66 | ||
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Territory with modern TD should sell in great numbers. It is locally made ,handles great for an suv and it should be economical and safe.
Hopefully quality niggles have been ironed out. In reality Ford needed this car 2 3 years ago but better now then never :-) I will test drive it when available and if it as good as I think it might be buy one . Last edited by SumoDog68; 09-02-2011 at 02:15 PM. |
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09-02-2011, 02:20 PM | #67 | ||
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Why a 6 cylinder Turbo Diesel and not a 4 ? Other manufactures have brilliant common rail 4 cylinder turbo diesels..............
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09-02-2011, 02:34 PM | #68 | |||
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For the record, they tried the 4cyl TD out of the Ranger and decided that it did not have the level of refinement for a passenger car. Too much NVH. Other 4cyl TD motors in the Ford world are for FWD passenger cars and lacked the power and torque for the Territory's weight etc
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09-02-2011, 02:38 PM | #69 | |||
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09-02-2011, 02:41 PM | #70 | |||
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Doesn't really matter at mid 8L/100 its not like its a drinker. But this is a big thing Ford will need to push. The look of the car will get the punters in but they need to know its not gonna cost them the earth to own one.
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09-02-2011, 02:48 PM | #71 | |||
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If they also add a central diff lock on the awd models your laughing (as an option at least, actually makes it usefull off road if paired with higher clearance). Certainly widens the range and would certainly become the ultimate family vehicle. I think this idea would sell, but seemingly so, FoMoCoAu dont think so.
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09-02-2011, 03:01 PM | #72 | |||
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Honestly I think they would sell more of an XR6 version than they would an off road version.
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09-02-2011, 03:07 PM | #73 | |||
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It was... Edit: Geoff Polites was a visionary in more areas than one. He set Ford Australia up for the rest of the decade when he left, only to have it changed by Tom Gorman and a Board of Directors that lacked the visionary CEO that they had. Nothing changed until Burela, and it is a crying shame that he isn't around to launch the SZ.
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09-02-2011, 03:13 PM | #74 | |||
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I'd expect sub 8l/100km from the Territory TD if indeed it does get 140kw/440nm output. From memory my TTG tipped the scales at 2100kgs which is 300kgs lighter than the Paj. Extra Urban cycle should see low/mid 7's/100km at 90/100kmh provided Ford haven't stuffed overall gearing.
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09-02-2011, 03:50 PM | #75 | ||
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Have they fixed the ball joints?
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09-02-2011, 03:52 PM | #76 | |||
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If they made a terry that was 2" higher than normal, had 31" and had a low range box this thing would be great for touring!!
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http://www.autoblog.com/2011/02/08/2...alian-for-suv/
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It seems the the Titanium doesn't come with power adjustable pedals?
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09-02-2011, 06:19 PM | #80 | |||
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I will wait until I see one in the flesh. The interior looks good though!
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I want one.. I want one... Turbo Diesel AWD for me.
I wonder what sort of colours will be available. Hope there's at least a few brighter colours (including a nice Blue) and not just a range of boring dark tones. I really hope this new model sells really well and helps Ford Australia reclaim some market share..
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09-02-2011, 10:58 PM | #82 | |||
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Thanks for that info block58. My apologies. I didn't realise they were up on the site already.
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Sorry, but those colours are a bit of a yawn fest.
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10-02-2011, 09:56 AM | #85 | ||
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Smoke is one of the best in that color range - what ever happened to the bright orange they had on the concept Territory?
Blood Orange I think it was called. They need a hero color for the range. They also need these tail lights. |
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10-02-2011, 01:24 PM | #87 | |||
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Front guards, and even though not actually metal i assume they mean the front and rear bars. |
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10-02-2011, 01:44 PM | #89 | |||
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In regards to the colours...this car is for soccer mums and classic families with a dog and 2.4 kids, not boy racers. It doesn't necessarily need 'look at me' colours like an XR6 or GT. Look at Toyota's success in selling everything in white and grey...thats the type of person the Terri is aimed at.
*shrugs* could be wrong...
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