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09-03-2011, 04:16 PM | #1 | |||
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A good news story perhaps?
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09-03-2011, 06:03 PM | #2 | ||
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Yep, Even Ford can only take the crap from the media for so long. I expect Ford to come out punching very soon, these doomsday articles are beyond the joke and i am sure the U.S see this and how much damage it is making.
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09-03-2011, 06:16 PM | #3 | ||
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ford's development cycle is simply too slow. no point harping about what you will be bringing out later in the year when your sales are crap now.
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09-03-2011, 06:30 PM | #4 | |||
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Better to release it late, than to recall every vehicle for expensive defects. |
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09-03-2011, 07:56 PM | #5 | |||
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I guess their are Ford workers here who can verify the truthfullness of the comments -
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09-03-2011, 09:07 PM | #6 | |||
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09-03-2011, 09:13 PM | #7 | |||
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09-03-2011, 09:16 PM | #8 | |||
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09-03-2011, 09:38 PM | #9 | ||
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With all the down days, hasn't Ford been basically on a three day week since January?
Perhaps since mid December? And still with all that, the stock levels kept building up..(shakes his head in disbelief) |
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10-03-2011, 12:24 AM | #10 | |||
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10-03-2011, 12:32 AM | #11 | |||
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Edit: look at the grass beside the carpark. Its dead in places where cars have been parked previously for a period of time. Last edited by SteveJH; 10-03-2011 at 12:38 AM. |
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10-03-2011, 12:47 AM | #12 | ||
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Looks like plenty of white ones in storage.
Also, the staff car park looks empty...
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10-03-2011, 02:54 AM | #13 | ||
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The fact is Falcon needs a complete face lift. We can talk about the differences between models, but if you go back a few years ford when introducing a new model at least changed the exterior of the car enough that you could see this was different. It was new, they changed the lights and bolt on panels changed the grill. This was done every new model from the XK onward. At least they changed it enough every 2 years at least. Platform changes every 10 years or so are fine. But now you have to look hard to see the differences now. I'm thoroughly sick of silver based cars. Just my opinion.
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10-03-2011, 07:39 AM | #14 | ||
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I find it ironic that the new TCDI Territorys now gives better fuel economy than a Falcon sedan...
Maybe Ford 's future is better served building Escape and Territory here and just import sedans.. |
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10-03-2011, 09:06 AM | #15 | |||
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10-03-2011, 11:21 AM | #16 | ||
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They have also claimed they have a build up of cars that are waiting to be shipped to flood affected areas. I guess there might be a backlog of deliveries due to them not being able to be shipped during Jan/Feb due to road closures etc.
I don't know wether that has been resolved by now or not. |
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10-03-2011, 11:36 AM | #17 | |||
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10-03-2011, 12:33 PM | #18 | |||
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I only counted 2600 cars. (Are there more stored inside). Does raise a few questions tho. 1) How can you only be making to order, when you have 2600 cars sitting around the factory. 2) If you are still making 120 Falcons a day, during your 3 day week (1440 a month), and you have only sold 3700 falcons/ Utes in the last two months (and this continues), then wouldnt it take about 4 months to clear the backlog. Oh well, i guess the person who has to go around and turn them over every month has job security for a while. |
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10-03-2011, 12:46 PM | #19 | ||
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I'd be interested to know how many Commodores are in the car park at Elizabeth. My guess is more than 2600.
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10-03-2011, 01:16 PM | #20 | |||
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10-03-2011, 03:52 PM | #22 | |||
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10-03-2011, 04:07 PM | #23 | ||
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Going by the timeline on the picture, it doesnt seem to have been a recent event tho. It appears that the lot started to get heavily built up about July 2010, and has stayed there since.
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10-03-2011, 04:27 PM | #24 | |||
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10-03-2011, 04:41 PM | #25 | |||
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10-03-2011, 04:45 PM | #26 | ||
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One of my jobs is to monitor probably stock levels at Holden & Ford for work, I use the nearmap photos and tracking of production rate and vfacts sales.
The graphs and photos are very concerning, it peaked somewhere around 6,000 for FG Sedan, has dropped recently to below 5,000 but has risen in Feb again due to the poor sales. I've been forecasting injections of numerous down days since August last year and I dont think we've seen the end of it by a long way. Holden aren't really in any better a situation, they have something like 8000 unsold cars in the pipeline. |
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10-03-2011, 05:09 PM | #27 | |||
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10-03-2011, 05:15 PM | #28 | ||
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The strange thing is during this time (since July 2010, but earlier also) we have been hearing of very long delivery times!
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10-03-2011, 05:39 PM | #29 | ||||
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It shows the decision to not raise the line rate last year when they were losing sales was a smart one. Gormans decision to not proceed with the TDV6 Territory in 2006 was clearly shortsighted. But, that is what beancounters do. All that has happened is now history. Graziano is from marketing, some of the evidence in recent advertising suggests that too. Ford need to kick some winners with imports (which they currently are in Fiesta and Mondeo) and ride the next few months with Falcon at a lull with Territory launching with the throttle to the floor and zooming back up the VFacts chart in May/June. Later this year the following launches happen. * Global T6 Ranger * Global Gen3 Focus * FG2 with new exterior / interior / tech / LiLPG, EcoBoost and Coyote? It may be quiet now, but the 2nd half of the year should really fire up. PS In the meantime, cheap finance deals like 3.9% would be great for Falcon. Along of the lines of their 'smart deals'. Got to be cheaper than letting them sit for 12mths on the grass.
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10-03-2011, 05:49 PM | #30 | |||
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I wonder if this was the catalyst for dealer unrest and hastening Burela's departure... |
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